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Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 10:14
No comments till 6pm.... most recent suggestions at that point count. I've gone back to really bad photos, you lot are too good with the better ones!

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 10:28
Extra points for style (plant ID, aging sexing, guessing locations etc)

Joern Lehmhus
Friday 14th November 2003, 10:32
First try:
1.juv Lanius senator in Tamarix sp.
2. 11 Blackheaded Gulls and 1 Common Gull (=Mew Gull)
3.oops--Cisticola juncidis??
4. Red Kite
5. Larus cachinnans

passeriformes probably wrong...

Andrew Whitehouse
Friday 14th November 2003, 11:10
Hmm, back on form with these I think Jane:

1) Golden Oriole
2) 11 Black-headed Gulls and a Common Gull
3) Fan-tailed Warbler, as I still prefer to call them
4) Montagu's Harrier
5) California Gull

Tiebreaker - errrr, I'll get back to you

Brian Stone
Friday 14th November 2003, 11:18
Ok lets have a go

1. ???? (Good start)
2. Lookin for the catch but can't make them anything other than BH gull and a Common
3. Fan-tailed Warbler (only one faily confident on)
4. Montagu's Harrier (plumping for one of three)
5. A gull (fizzling out badly)

Gerry Hooper
Friday 14th November 2003, 11:31
I'm with Brian on these ones.
Is that an Olive Tree in the second post?
NO idea on the Bird though.

Gerry

"The mistle Thrush is coming Jack, put out the light"- Jack in the green, Jethro Tull.

Brian Stone
Friday 14th November 2003, 11:59
I like Fife's suggestion of Golden Oriole.

The gull could well be Herring Gull.

And if that is an Olive Tree, why not Olive Tree Warbler although the yellow tones would seem to imply something like Icterine is more likely.

Are they all WP?

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 12:20
all could have been taken in WP

satrow
Friday 14th November 2003, 12:24
1, Arabian (or is it Common?) Babbler
2, 10 B-h Gulls, 1 Common, 1 Med.?
3, Zitting Cisticola
4, Monty's,
5, California Gull
6, Olive tree Warbler.

Michael Frankis
Friday 14th November 2003, 13:10
1 Golden Oriole (in Tamarix)
2 11 Black-headed Gulls + 1 Common Gull. Tried hard to make them a flock of Bonaparte's, but couldn't.
3 Fan-tailed Warbler (easily identified by the zits it is suffering from)
4 Marsh Harrier subad. male
5 Caspian (cachinnans) Gull, 3rd/4th winter type
6 Scarlet Tanager female/imm. in a Viburnum shrub

Michael

Harry Hussey
Friday 14th November 2003, 14:02
1)Golden Oriole
2)Black-headed Gulls+Common Gull
3)Fan-tailed Warbler
4)Montagu's Harrier
5)Yellow-legged Gull(michahellis) subad,head shape looks wrong for Caspian
6)Scarlet Tanager
Harry H

Andrew Whitehouse
Friday 14th November 2003, 14:07
No 6 could be a Baltimore Oriole looking uncharacteristically ugly. Not sure about the shrub but Michael's probably got that nailed (although not to species I note).

Andrew Whitehouse
Friday 14th November 2003, 14:09
Oh and I reckon California Gull's probably wrong for No 5 as it's not (as far as I know) been recorded in the WP. So I reckon Caspian Gull.

CJW
Friday 14th November 2003, 14:14
1)Not a Golden Oriole, no dark on the lores, looks more warbler-like.
2)Black-headed Gulls+Common Gull
3)Fan-tailed Warbler
4)Montagu's Harrier
5)Yellow-legged Gull(michahellis)
6)Scarlet Tanager

Joern Lehmhus
Friday 14th November 2003, 14:29
For number 6 I would go for baltimore oriole,
the plant gives a Viburnum-like impression, but I am not happy with that because I canīt nail it down to a species-something seems wrong- at least none of the smaller leafed species I know has such greyish and not shiny leaves-but flowers would fit.

Grousemore
Friday 14th November 2003, 15:07
1: Olivaceous Warbler
2:BH and Common
3:Fan-tailed Warbler
4:Montagu's Harrier
5:Ring-billed Gull
6:Scarlet Tanager

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 15:10
Bird 4, on the deck

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 15:13
The bill on the supplementary bird looked smaller/thinner in life...

Harry Hussey
Friday 14th November 2003, 15:24
Hmm,No.6 looked thinner billed?I'd like to change my guess from Scarlet Tanager to another Nearctic passerine(though probably way out with this guess!):Yellow Warbler.
Harry H

Joern Lehmhus
Friday 14th November 2003, 16:01
No. 4 is no red kite then,
but a melanistic harrier, I would go for a melanistic Marsh harrier

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 16:08
The plant in 6 was growing in a brackish lagoon if that helps.

Joern Lehmhus
Friday 14th November 2003, 16:18
Oh-then definitely no Viburnum!!!
Could it be something of the family Chenopodiaceae? But there the leafs normally do not stand opposed to each other, if I remember correctly...

tom mckinney
Friday 14th November 2003, 17:22
juv Rose Coloured Starling, 11 BH Gull & 1 Common Gull, Fan Tailed Warbler, Montagu's Harrier, Armenian Gull(Yellow Legged "armenicus"), Yellow Warbler-only because of Harry I hadnt got a clue what it was.

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 17:57
I know I said 6... but everyone has had a go. Shall we get interactive. All species have been named, 5 is the best anyone has done.


Picture 2 is supposed to have a third species in it. I am unable to see it in there....well not without a huge amount of application of imagination. I didn't take the photo, but I did see it fly in and join this small flock.

tom mckinney
Friday 14th November 2003, 18:32
I've just noticed bird one has a red eye. So I reckon it's a Golden Oriole, but too late-my first stab at Rose Coloured Starling has to be my answer!

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 18:39
I think we keep going till someone gets them all right now. Still no one better than 5 on count back.

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 18:57
3 is, as everyone has guessed/deduced a Fan-tailed Warbler/Zitting Cisticola, taken in Cantabrica, N.Spain

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 21:14
Harry gets the coconut for the highest score. No one has got all 6 though.. Come on chaps, you can do it!

Grousemore
Friday 14th November 2003, 21:20
Harry gets the coconut for the highest score. No one has got all 6 though.. Come on chaps, you can do it!


1: Olivaceous Warbler
2:BH and Common Gulls
3:Fan-tailed Warbler
4:Montagu's Harrier
5:Yellow-legged Gull
6:Yellow Warbler

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 21:51
Sold!

The Yellow Warbler is in what i thought was a Mangrove tree! On Cuba.

The Yellow-leg was pointed out to me as a Ring-billed Gull!

The Montis was one of 3 melanistic birds in about 300 migrants at La Janda in Spain


There was supposed to be a bonapartes Bull in No 2...but I can't see it unless its the front bird!

The Olly was a bit trixy!

Grousemore
Friday 14th November 2003, 22:16
Thank you,Jane (says he modestly).....what was the prize again?
(whatever it is I'll have to share it with Harry for the Yellow Warbler I stole!)

Jane Turner
Friday 14th November 2003, 23:30
The prize..... well its a marathon....till I run out of bad pics...

I don't know. Maybe a drawing? This one perhaps, though I've no idea where the original is anymore...so perhaps a commission

Tim Allwood
Friday 14th November 2003, 23:48
The 'Yellow Warbler' is I guess a Mangrove Warbler - a highly variable group!..... and it looks like it's in a mangrove too - any idea Michael of the species?

Jane Turner
Saturday 15th November 2003, 00:10
I thought it might well be, thought it was raining migrant dendroica's that day.