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ody
Thursday 15th November 2007, 07:42
Hi, everyone!
I want to upgrade from my SONY H5 to a DSLR. I thought of this combination:
Canon 400 D + tamron SP AF200-500mm F/5-6.3 Di LD (IF). What do you think?
Has someone the same comb.? Is there, maybe, a better lense?
Thank you in advance.

rezMole
Thursday 15th November 2007, 22:36
Hi, everyone!
I want to upgrade from my SONY H5 to a DSLR. I thought of this combination:
Canon 400 D + tamron SP AF200-500mm F/5-6.3 Di LD (IF). What do you think?
Has someone the same comb.? Is there, maybe, a better lense?
Thank you in advance.

Don't know about the combination, but I think you'll find most users of the lens will say there's no better at the price.

CCRII
Saturday 17th November 2007, 23:30
Hi, everyone!
I want to upgrade from my SONY H5 to a DSLR. I thought of this combination:
Canon 400 D + tamron SP AF200-500mm F/5-6.3 Di LD (IF). What do you think?
Has someone the same comb.? Is there, maybe, a better lense?
Thank you in advance.

If it were me I would save your money and either buy a new/used copy of the canon 100-400 f5.6. Versitility, very fast and quiet focusing. Should think you can get a deal on one used or new and it is loads better then the sigma in terms of auto focus speed and image quality (even with a HSM sigma). Would be an awesome compliment to the 40D!

paul goode
Saturday 17th November 2007, 23:43
This thread is about the TAMRON 200-500 & canon 400D. I'd check out DOC's gallery before criticising this lens and the af on my Sigma 50-500 was, I reckon, a bit faster than the 100-400 i now own. IQ of these lenses I reckon is pretty similar. Again, in my opinion, IS is the advantage the Canon has, particularly over the Sigma. Build quality probably favours the Canon as well, but, in the right hands each will take great images.

whomes
Sunday 18th November 2007, 14:10
It's the combination I use all the time. When looking at my pictures remember I'm a 'click and shoot' photographer with no photoshop skills (very few of my pics have ben altered post download) and very little composition ability.

ody
Sunday 18th November 2007, 20:40
Thank you all so much for your time.
I really think about CCRII,said!
Have you any internet adress for used equipment?

CCRII
Wednesday 21st November 2007, 01:05
Thank you all so much for your time.
I really think about CCRII,said!
Have you any internet adress for used equipment?

Sorry if this is too late!

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/10/0


http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14&order=desc


http://www.dgrin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=36&page=3&order=desc

You might try a search in google for used camera shops in your area.

Hope this helps.

You cannot deny DOC's results. Doesn't hurt that he/she is in Israel where it is sunny quite a lot of the year. I think that would help any lens sparkle. The AF was slower on the 50-500mm Sigma I tested out, side by side with a canon 1-4.

Roy C
Wednesday 21st November 2007, 09:27
Hi, everyone!
I want to upgrade from my SONY H5 to a DSLR. I thought of this combination:
Canon 400 D + tamron SP AF200-500mm F/5-6.3 Di LD (IF). What do you think?
Has someone the same comb.? Is there, maybe, a better lense?
Thank you in advance.
I am afraid there will always be a better lens but the main problem with post like this is that it could well attract the 'my lens is better than your lens' brigade.

gmax
Wednesday 21st November 2007, 12:21
You cannot deny DOC's results. Doesn't hurt that he/she is in Israel where it is sunny quite a lot of the year. I think that would help any lens sparkle..

Perhaps you are right ... I use a similar combo (350D) in sunny Italy, "where it is sunny quite a lot of the year" (?!?!?!?! ;) ), yet this lens regularly provides me with far more light/speed than my 400mm f/5.6 + 1.4x TC combo, so my question is: why people in gloomy UK countryside, dark Canada woods, pitch-black jungle canopy etc etc should persevere in using this combo?

CCRII
Wednesday 21st November 2007, 17:07
Perhaps you are right ... I use a similar combo (350D) in sunny Italy, "where it is sunny quite a lot of the year" (?!?!?!?! ;) ), yet this lens regularly provides me with far more light/speed than my 400mm f/5.6 + 1.4x TC combo, so my question is: why people in gloomy UK countryside, dark Canada woods, pitch-black jungle canopy etc etc should persevere in using this combo?

So your saying you use a Tampon er tamron 200-400 with a 350D and you find that combo to be better then the 400mm f/5.6 + 1.4x TC. The 1.4x tc does not work well with any lens less then f2.8 it will hunt and hunt. Even "where it's sunny quite a lot of the year" (lol).

gmax
Wednesday 21st November 2007, 18:47
So your saying you use a Tampon er tamron 200-400 with a 350D and you find that combo to be better then the 400mm f/5.6 + 1.4x TC. The 1.4x tc does not work well with any lens less then f2.8 it will hunt and hunt. Even "where it's sunny quite a lot of the year" (lol).

Well, not exactly ... I was just referring to the "sunny ... any lens sparkle" bit ;) .. mine was a kind of rhetorical reply, meaning that it's true that good lighting helps a lot in taking a good picture, but it's the man behind the camera doing all the rest: doc's pictures are regularly excellent, and that's mainly "because" of his skills, not "because" of the place he lives in ... Similarly, lots of good results are achieved by people using a "dark" kit (like my Canon combo: f/8) in bad lighting situations ...
As for the use of a TC, I wouldn't be so categorical in ruling out lenses with apertures less than f/2.8 to be used with a converter .. many of us here use them, and not all of us may enjoy the privilege of an f/2.8 lens ...
Cheers,
Max

rezMole
Wednesday 21st November 2007, 19:10
Almost all the pics in my gallery were taken with the Tamron 200-500 (including a few flight shots), and many in not so sunny conditions!
http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/18597
Although not of the same quality as DOCs, I would put this down to the fact that he's a better photographer than me and probably spends more time composing his shots.

postcardcv
Wednesday 21st November 2007, 20:47
So your saying you use a tamron 200-500 with a 350D and you find that combo to be better then the 400mm f/5.6 + 1.4x TC. The 1.4x tc does not work well with any lens less then f2.8 it will hunt and hunt. Even "where it's sunny quite a lot of the year" (lol).

Just for the record a 1.4x tc will work fine and AF very swiftly with a f4 lens too, I often use one on my 500 f4 and have not seen any noticeable slowing in the AF. As for using a taped 1.4x tc with an f5.6 lens, there are loads of people doing this and getting excellent results.

CCRII
Thursday 22nd November 2007, 01:37
Well, not exactly ... I was just referring to the "sunny ... any lens sparkle" bit ;) .. mine was a kind of rhetorical reply, meaning that it's true that good lighting helps a lot in taking a good picture, but it's the man behind the camera doing all the rest: doc's pictures are regularly excellent, and that's mainly "because" of his skills, not "because" of the place he lives in ... Similarly, lots of good results are achieved by people using a "dark" kit (like my Canon combo: f/8) in bad lighting situations ...
As for the use of a TC, I wouldn't be so categorical in ruling out lenses with apertures less than f/2.8 to be used with a converter .. many of us here use them, and not all of us may enjoy the privilege of an f/2.8 lens ...
Cheers,
Max

I actually have tried to use the canon EF II 1.4x converter with my 30D and 1-4 zoom and it is atrocious! It hunts and hunts. Unless it is a clear/sunny day. Even then it is pretty slow compared to the 1-4 without TC. I'm glad that there are those that can get results with a slower/darker lens combo, but if it is only a bit more money for a faster/lighter lens I would do it so as to give myself every advantage. I agree with you that it is the photographer and not the equipment, but it does not hurt to have every advantage you can get. Also I did not mean that Doc's photos were only good because he lived in a predominately sunny climate. I just meant that when you have a lot of light you can do wonderful things and that it is much easier to get better results. I should have been more careful in my wording. I apologize.

CCRII
Thursday 22nd November 2007, 01:39
Just for the record a 1.4x tc will work fine and AF very swiftly with a f4 lens too, I often use one on my 500 f4 and have not seen any noticeable slowing in the AF. As for using a taped 1.4x tc with an f5.6 lens, there are loads of people doing this and getting excellent results.

Yeah I guess I should have been more clear. I meant that the 1.4x does not work very well with a f5.6 or higher lens. This is what it says in the information for the TC. I have only tested it with my 1-4 zoom and it is almost unusable. Maybe I have a bad copy.

Roy C
Thursday 22nd November 2007, 03:10
Yeah I guess I should have been more clear. I meant that the 1.4x does not work very well with a f5.6 or higher lens. This is what it says in the information for the TC. I have only tested it with my 1-4 zoom and it is almost unusable. Maybe I have a bad copy.
Reports suggest that the Kenko Pro 1.4tc (taped) works far better than the Canon when used with the 1-4 and 30D.
I have both the Canon 1.4 and Kenko Pro which I use with the 400mm f5.6 and they both work very well on the 30D body (centre Focus point)
The combo also works very well on the 40D body BUT not with the centre focus point selected, use any other focus point and it works fine.

ody
Wednesday 5th December 2007, 14:52
Since Monday I am the owner of a Canon 400 D and a Canon 100-400 EF 4,5/5,6 L IS. I bought them from Athens with an CF 4GB card, 2.260 Euro.Canon (http://canon2007promotions.onlinerebates.com/intro.aspx?country=gr&view=promos) will give me back for Camera and Lens 170 Euro.
Today I made some pics with this combination.
Here two of them!I know I have to learn lot of more...

Tim Taylor
Wednesday 5th December 2007, 15:13
Good start Ody. I'm sure you'll enjoy using them. :D