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Jane Turner
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 00:40
I didn't take this pic.... it was of the obvious birds in flight. The bird at the top left wasn't noticed by the photographer in the field! See what you make of it....

I have resisted taking a photo of the 5000 large Larus on the beach outside at the moment, but its tempting! Beats wading through them solo!

Michael Frankis
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 00:56
A Seagull.

The wingtips are hidden behind a wave, so it's impossible to do much with it. Don't see why not a Herring Gull though.

Jane Turner
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 01:00
A Seagull.

The wingtips are hidden behind a wave, so it's impossible to do much with it. Don't see why not a Herring Gull though.

If it has black wing tips hidden beyond all that white, its hellishly long-winged

Bluetail
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 01:10
Assuming it is a white-winged gull, I don't see the short-primary extension and stepped tertials of Glaucous, so I'm going to plump for Iceland. It seems to have a round enough head and long enough wings. But do the primaries look a bit too pencil-thin? And if so, does that imply anything?

Jason

Jane Turner
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 10:32
If it helps, an adult Iceland did turn up and winter, the following day..allegedly....

Andrew Whitehouse
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 10:56
It looks quite like an Iceland to me but the bill seems very bright and rather Herring Gull like, at least from what we can see of it. Nice Little Gulls by the way.

Jane Turner
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 11:06
As Michael say, we will never know...but it did seem a bit of a coincidence at the time. I do know someone who was concentrating really hard on taking flight shots of Black Terns. when he got the pics back there was a White-wing in them!

Tim Allwood
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 15:30
just looks like one of those pix that makes a common bird appear like it may be something else. Like Michael I don't think the prims are visible so not much really doable on it. The rest of it doesn't say anything else to me either other than prob a Herring

Michael Frankis
Saturday 22nd November 2003, 15:34
I still think it is unidentifiable. The white at the tail end I am fairly certain actually is the tail, the wings being below the body-tail line either because it is bathing, feeding (plunge-diving) or perhaps sick/weak. Once seen this way, then the wingtips are largely hidden below the wave in front, but there is a dark spot there which could be part of a black wingtip (not saying it definitely is, but it can't be ruled out)

Michael