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Malcolm Stewart
Thursday 4th December 2008, 17:53
Are there any downsides to camouflaging our "white" lenses inside a lens-coat? Does the lens-coat material bond to the "white" paint over a period of time causing damage when removed?
Earlier today I met a Nikon D300 user with his Nikon 300 f2.8 all in low reflective black. Looked just the thing for birding!
Tanager
Thursday 4th December 2008, 20:12
Malcolm,
I used a LensCoat for my Canon 300mm F4 - It consisted of three peices; the two larger pieces are made of neoprene like material and so don't actually stick to the lens. The thirdis a thin piece that goes around the base of the lens and this has a sticky backing to adhere it to the lens and this does leave a sticky residue when you remove it, but this is easy to remove.
Mark
Ragna
Friday 5th December 2008, 00:14
No downsides only the price bit of a rip off for what you actually get.
Highcountry
Friday 5th December 2008, 01:53
No downsides only the price bit of a rip off for what you actually get.
I agree and there is a little difference in price between the large lenses, 500mm - $100, and mid-size lenses, 70-200mm - $90. I was interested in one for my zoom after getting one for my 500mm, but that is on hold because of the price.
Malcolm Stewart
Friday 5th December 2008, 02:14
Thanks guys. Useful and practical information.
What started me wondering was that I noticed the loss of a minute spot of paint on my EF 400 f5.6L. Perhaps I'd missed this on delivery (lens was s/h), but more likely I'd scuffed it on something. Whilst I normally keep lenses a long time, it started me thinking about potential resale value being seriously reduced if I get any more scuffs.
(I do have the correct repair paint, but not too much skill.)
GYRob
Friday 5th December 2008, 09:40
for my 500f4isL i use a leg from a pair of boys neoprean camo trouses, i made it to long so that leves a flap to cover the mk3 should it rain.
it really does work great.
The cost was £5 but as i went half's with my mate it was just £2.50 each :)
He made his for a 300f2.8isL so cut it a little shorter.
Rob.
Tav94
Friday 5th December 2008, 12:23
I went to a army surplus and got a old pair of camoflague trousers and cut the legs of made four slave for my Canon 400.cost £ 3.00 and a bit of sowing,keeps the lens clean and warm to the touch as well as covering the horrid white.
rentoncharman
Friday 5th December 2008, 13:40
If it's just for protection buy a roll of camo tape off e-bay but make sure you order the type that can easily be removed without leaving any residue. I've used it and it is good.
Malcolm Stewart
Friday 5th December 2008, 18:29
Following a PM this morning, and in case anyone else needs the info:-
The Canon "white" paint colour is matched by Ford Cameo Beige, Halfords # 452433.
The following thread covers it in detail.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=12023400
or
http://www.glennbartley.com/natureph...er%20300mm.htm
Plenty of Google hits for "Canon Ford Cameo beige"
I bought mine about 2 years ago from Halfords, and it is a very good match. I think it was around £8 for ~50ml in a 100ml brush-in-lid bottle. I discovered today that the bottle's plastic lid had fractured, and I've now transferred the paint to a 50ml paint tin. Hopefully this will outlast my use of white lenses...
Claymore
Friday 5th December 2008, 20:58
Following a PM this morning, and in case anyone else needs the info:-
The Canon "white" paint colour is matched by Ford Cameo Beige, Halfords # 452433.
The following thread covers it in detail.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=12023400
or
http://www.glennbartley.com/natureph...er%20300mm.htm
Plenty of Google hits for "Canon Ford Cameo beige"
I bought mine about 2 years ago from Halfords, and it is a very good match. I think it was around £8 for ~50ml in a 100ml brush-in-lid bottle. I discovered today that the bottle's plastic lid had fractured, and I've now transferred the paint to a 50ml paint tin. Hopefully this will outlast my use of white lenses...
Thanks for the paint tip Malcolm! what the betting some people will paint tatty old lenses to look like Canon L Lenses? LoL
Personally I hate the white lenses and cannot understand why they are that colour? surely black is easier to mould or even rubber coated to protect them like spotting scopes? mmmmmmmmm
Cheerio
Brian
mike nesbitt
Friday 5th December 2008, 21:46
Thanks for the paint tip Malcolm! what the betting some people will paint tatty old lenses to look like Canon L Lenses? LoL
Personally I hate the white lenses and cannot understand why they are that colour? surely black is easier to mould or even rubber coated to protect them like spotting scopes? mmmmmmmmm
Cheerio
Brian
My guess is that Canon paint their lenses white to reflect heat.
Though if this were a problem one would imagine Nikon would do the same.
The black ones certainly look better in my opinion.
Mike
Malcolm Stewart
Friday 5th December 2008, 22:31
My guess is that Canon paint their lenses white to reflect heat.
Though if this were a problem one would imagine Nikon would do the same.
The black ones certainly look better in my opinion.
Mike
In contrast to Nikon, Canon use artificial fluorite crystal in many of their long lenses. Compared to glass, this material is affected by water so anything to assist the hermetic sealing I imagine has to be a good thing. On the occasional really hot summer's day I have noticed that the white lens is cooler than black items, and in sunnier places, I'd expect a bigger effect.
miketoll
Saturday 6th December 2008, 22:26
Thanks for the info on the matching paint, off to Halfords on monday...
AC/DC
Saturday 6th December 2008, 23:47
My guess is that Canon paint their lenses white to reflect heat.
Though if this were a problem one would imagine Nikon would do the same.
The black ones certainly look better in my opinion.
Mike
I thought maybe it was to advertise that a certain person is using premium canon gear? Eg at a football match, the white L lenses stand out pretty well, and certainly used to advertise a lot of long lenses were Canon.
deshojo
Sunday 7th December 2008, 02:50
I thought maybe it was to advertise that a certain person is using premium canon gear? Eg at a football match, the white L lenses stand out pretty well, and certainly used to advertise a lot of long lenses were Canon.
How very cynical of you AC/DC! :-O (though I think you may be right).
I also use a leg from a pair of cammo trousers, but I paid an extortionate £10 to cover my 600mm f4 and 300mm f2.8 lenses.
A friend has the "real thing", but to me it still leaves areas of white exposed. Whereas the trouser leg can be made to cover the whole lens, with a flap cut to allow access to the switches, and if made a bit too long it also gives the option to also cover the 1.4x and 2 extenders when used.
birder
Monday 8th December 2008, 11:32
On the subject of Lens coat - for a Canon 500mmf4 IS L. Is it still possible to remover the hood and put it 'in reverse' over the Lenscoated lens for easier carrying, eg in a LowePro bag or does the thickness of the Lenscoat prevent this?
Kevin
postcardcv
Monday 8th December 2008, 18:52
On the subject of Lens coat - for a Canon 500mmf4 IS L. Is it still possible to remover the hood and put it 'in reverse' over the Lenscoated lens for easier carrying, eg in a LowePro bag or does the thickness of the Lenscoat prevent this?
Kevin
Yes you can reverse the hood with the lenscoat on, you can still use the silly lens cover too.
birder
Monday 8th December 2008, 20:43
Yes you can reverse the hood with the lenscoat on, you can still use the silly lens cover too.
Thanks Peter,
I'm hoping Santa will bring me one - good to know I can still detatch and store the hood with it on!
Kevin
Malcolm Stewart
Sunday 11th January 2009, 00:04
About a month has passed since the last posting here, and today I visited Norwich and dropped in to Warehouse Express and bought the black version of the LensCoat for my EF 400 f5.6L. Black because it was the cheapest of the various offerings, and as the 400 f5.6 doesn't contain any fluorite, the colour isn't an issue. I'm quite impressed by the fit, and as I've had one of my "white" lenses rejected in a part exchange deal simply on account of its less than pristine appearance, I'm hoping that the lens coat will help maintain the value of this currently mint lens.
I'm also thinking of investigating Camoform and perhaps Vet Wrap as recommended elsewhere.
stevo
Sunday 11th January 2009, 09:46
Try www.wildlifewatchingsupplies.co.uk I know Kevin does the neoprene sets to cover lenses if you can`t find what your looking for he will make up some for you.Also their non stick & cheaper than a lot of other suppliers.
Steve.
christineredgate
Sunday 11th January 2009, 23:12
I use an old green wooly walking sock on my 400F5.6.Cut off the toe,and use the narrowest end at the cam end of the lens.Very useful,it keeps the lens easier to handle in very cold weather,also silences accidental noise from metal poles,fences etc when resting the lens to take a shot.
Claymore
Monday 12th January 2009, 20:42
I use an old green wooly walking sock on my 400F5.6.Cut off the toe,and use the narrowest end at the cam end of the lens.Very useful,it keeps the lens easier to handle in very cold weather,also silences accidental noise from metal poles,fences etc when resting the lens to take a shot.
Aye Christine, you'll not be wanting to stick one of my Stinky Old Biking Socks on your lens! It would probably run off with your tripod! LoL
Great tip though if you have a good supply of pegs (for your nose)
Cheerio
Brian
Malcolm Stewart
Tuesday 13th January 2009, 02:18
Try www.wildlifewatchingsupplies.co.uk I know Kevin does the neoprene sets to cover lenses if you can`t find what your looking for he will make up some for you.Also their non stick & cheaper than a lot of other suppliers.
Steve.
Thanks, Stevo. That looks like a good site, and less costly than the Lenscoat brand.
hollis_f
Tuesday 13th January 2009, 09:00
Thanks, Stevo. That looks like a good site, and less costly than the Lenscoat brand.I decided to go with the Lenscoat rather than WWS for my 300 2.8 because I wasn't keen on the slit in the cover to access the IS and Focus Limiter controls. I much prefer the Lenscoat clear plastic panel.
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