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mipettin
Monday 22nd March 2004, 21:13
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Hi
Took photos of an odd animal at lunchtime in the River Almond near the Boatyard in Crammond. Sorry about the quality - very poor light and full zoom on camera as about 50 feet away. Links to photos here:
http://www.martinpettinger.co.uk/output/index.html
Is it an Otter, or a Mink, or something else!
Martin
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jeff
Monday 22nd March 2004, 21:26
Mink for me.
Gill Osborne
Monday 22nd March 2004, 21:44
Definitely a Mink i would say! Especially looking at Photos No. 4 & 6...the white chin of the mink is very clearly seen!
GILL
mipettin
Monday 22nd March 2004, 21:49
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In photo 4 I think that is a fish while in 6 I think the Mink is eating something again. Maybe there is a clue in photo 5 the toes on the back left leg might be a clue?
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cuckooroller
Tuesday 23rd March 2004, 20:55
Photo 7 - legs are too long for Otter.
very boring banned member
Tuesday 23rd March 2004, 21:11
Mustela vison. All dark with white lower jaw.
Joern Lehmhus
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 11:31
Yep ,
it is a mink (Mustela vison)
Charles Harper
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 12:38
Well, certainly not an otter...
very boring banned member
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 13:10
Very bad for ground breeding birds.
jeff
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 13:12
Very bad for ground breeding birds.
Catch enough and you've got yourself a coat ;-)
checklg
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 13:47
Catch enough and you've got yourself a coat ;-)
This makes me think that I got the following ID wrong. Is this a Mink ?
http://www.pbase.com/image/20444585
Regards,
Graham.
very boring banned member
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 13:51
This makes me think that I got the following ID wrong. Is this a Mink ?
http://www.pbase.com/image/20444585
Regards,
Graham.
That is Mustela rixosa, very small beast.
jeff
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 15:42
This makes me think that I got the following ID wrong. Is this a Mink ?
http://www.pbase.com/image/20444585
Regards,
Graham.
I'd say it's was a Weasel Mustela nivalis
very boring banned member
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 15:51
I'd say it's was a Weasel Mustela nivalis
It is pygmy weasel (Mustela nivalis, earlier rixosa). Weasel (M. erminea, ex nivalis) has twice as long tail with black tip.
Harry Hussey
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 16:06
Hi Karwin,
Isn't it a Stoat that has a dark-tipped tail?Are they called Weasels in Finland?Is Pygmy Weasel the same as Weasel?
Mink for the first pics,btw!As well as concrete ID features such as the white on the chin,note how the whole back/tail are above the water while it's swimming.
Harry
jayhunter
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 16:36
I would say mink and a stoat.
Joern Lehmhus
Wednesday 24th March 2004, 17:24
Hi Checklg,
your pic is Mustela nivalis, allthough it seems to be quite a big one (male?).
As Karvin already said the tail of Mustela erminea is much longer (and also thicker) with a black tip. Also, Mustela erminea is in the size between Mustela nivalis and Mustela vison.
Jörn
very boring banned member
Thursday 25th March 2004, 04:00
Hi Karwin,
Isn't it a Stoat that has a dark-tipped tail?Are they called Weasels in Finland?Is Pygmy Weasel the same as Weasel?
You're right. My english-name source was too old, as You possibly noticed from the sxcifi name hassle, too. FYI, in Finland that is called kärppä (now, try to pronounce that :) ), the pygmy thing being lumikko.
very boring banned member
Thursday 25th March 2004, 04:01
pic is Mustela nivalis, allthough it seems to be quite a big one (male?).
I was too surprised how this guy looks big.
Birdspotter
Friday 16th April 2004, 19:30
Hi Martin,
I know you posted this a few weeks back but as I have just joined the forum and I know the area well where the photos were taken, I thought Id drop you a line on this subject.
Firstly the shots to me show a definate Mink, unfortunatly all too common on Lothian rivers. Previous Lothian bird reports have mentioned the lack of breeding waterbirds on our rivers and water courses with Mink being the chief suspect.
Moorhen was particuarly hit badly( 1983 Lothian bird report;Edin YOC Water of Leith Survey).
As for Otter, well for years this was a very rare mammal in Lothian but in recent years this trend has changed for the better.
Otter are now quite reguarly seen in Lothian, including the R Almond where you took the shots.
Hope this has helped you out.
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