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BuzzerB
Saturday 11th July 2009, 23:54
I am a new beekeeper and this has opened up new thinking to me, considering the bee collapse situation, and what could be causing it. Insect eating birds also appear to be in trouble.|=(|

I remember [showing my age here] the early fifties and how insect impact was such a problem on car windscreens. It was often the case you had to stop the car to scrape off insects so you could see where you were going. You probably never saw the invention of a yellow Perspex insect deflector that sprouted on many a car bonnet! In the late fifties we installed electricity here in our countryside home in Worcestershire. Every time we put on the outside light, vast amounts of insects would congregate. Much more than occurs now.

In 1962 the M5 motorway was built, and later that was illuminated. I have often wondered what happened to all the insects which were attracted to this extraneous night light and if there were any hidden side effects

I watch the flight of swifts and house martins hoovering up insects on the wing - could it be a speculation too far to connect night illumination with the loss of flying insects in vast numbers which thus increases bee vulnerability, because insect eating birds now have no other food choice? [Bees do not fly at night.]

Surely someone else has made this connection?
It would be interesting to see other’s thoughts.

Dave B Smith
Sunday 12th July 2009, 00:28
Hello BuzzerB,
On behalf of the staff, welcome to the Birdforum. Interesting supposition you've posted. Will be interested in seeing the replies.

Mark Bruce
Sunday 12th July 2009, 04:31
Hi BuzzerB, a warm welcome and good to have you with us :t:! I'll be watching this thread with interest.

delia todd
Sunday 12th July 2009, 09:07
Hi BuzzerB and a warm welcome from me too

I'm sure you will enjoy it here

D

BuzzerB
Sunday 12th July 2009, 13:01
Hi, pardon me for not giving much detail about myself. Had to get that the thing about insects and night illumination off my chest, while the iron was hot.

I'm not a huge bird enthusiast as such - but spend a tiny fortune that would make an average African very happy, on feeding birds in my garden. Love the countryside [Brum born] and nature. Dislike what I call wizz-bangs - arrogant people with too much money that drive around country roads like Jeremy Clarkson. VERY concerned about Climate Change and have to admit a part in it. My defence is ignorance, can't understand people who deny it. It is an inconvenient truth!

Thanks for the chance to swap ideas and learn from others experience everyone. Looks a good forum.

[Do you think I have put my query in the wrong categor?]:eek!:

Raptor 01
Sunday 12th July 2009, 15:01
Hello BuzzerB and welcome to BirdForum.

Geoff. |=)|

a.dancy
Sunday 12th July 2009, 19:24
Hi and welcome.

Marmot
Sunday 12th July 2009, 19:55
Hi

Welcome to Birdforum.

We do have a section for conservation issues so you could put a bit in that section as well.
http://www.birdforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=118

Stewart J.
Sunday 12th July 2009, 20:18
Hi BuzzerB and welcome, what a thought provoking supposition and look forward to the thoughts of others and any debate.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to copy the initial post to the conservation section.

Stewart

lashinala
Monday 13th July 2009, 22:50
Damn. Wish I knew more about 'the birds and the bees' so I could help out here.

lashinala
Thursday 16th July 2009, 17:56
after doing some searches, I wonder if bee colony collapse, chytrid in amphibians, and white nose syndrone in bats are all symptoms of another unseen issue. I'm anxious to toss this idea up at an astronomical society with 'dark sky' advocates. Anybody?