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thefunkylobster
Saturday 3rd April 2004, 02:29
Hey everyone
Even tho Ive had an interest in birds for a long time I have only recemtly started bird Watching.
Has anyone any tips?
Thank you

Charles Harper
Saturday 3rd April 2004, 05:32
Maybe it would be easier if you told us what you already know about birdwatching, first. How are you doing it now? Where? With what?

Karl J
Saturday 3rd April 2004, 07:14
Hi there, I'd guess from your post you're a beginner ..(?) .. Maybe one place would be spend a bit of time going through the other threads in this 'tips for new birders' section.

Then just get a pair of bin's (cheap ones from Jessops etc are perfectly adequate for a start) ... and take yourself off somewhere ... away into the countryside perhaps, or your own back garden, rspb reserve perhaps

A field bird id book might also be useful, there are plenty about .... try Ottakers, WH Smith, Waterstones etc

Hope thats of use ...... but be warned .... it can be Very Addictive !!

AnnieW
Saturday 3rd April 2004, 07:37
Hey everyone
Even tho Ive had an interest in birds for a long time I have only recemtly started bird Watching.
Has anyone any tips?
Thank you
Take a look at this guide that was posted a little while back : http://birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=4825

rodneyjohn
Friday 23rd April 2004, 17:10
Hey everyone
Even tho Ive had an interest in birds for a long time I have only recemtly started bird Watching.
Has anyone any tips?
Thank you

I hasten to say I've never been a birder and never aspired to become one, but a pair of house finches have adopted me and I feel a great sense of responsibility. I live on the 23rd floor of a east-facing condo in downtown Toronto, Canada and a pair are nesting in a garden basket. Yesterday, I heard the female sounding quite aggitated and, sure enough, there was an egg. This morning, she laid a second one. What should I do, or not do? I remember I was told as a child never to touch an egg, and I leave them alone when they're in residence. But what happens when it gets warm and I start spring cleaning on the balcony? And what when it gets really hot and we start eating outside? Will they become tame? How long does it take from the laying of the egg to the hatching, and how long from the hatching to the little ones becoming independent? It's very exciting being about 6 ft. from the action, and they don't seem to mind our moving around inside the condo and watching them. Our windows cover the entire 17 ft. balcony. Nor do they start when I open the door to hear him sing. But what now? Should I start putting out seed or just mind my own business. All advice most welcome. Cheers from the great lone land.

birdman
Friday 23rd April 2004, 17:25
I hasten to say I've never been a birder and never aspired to become one, but a pair of house finches have adopted me and I feel a great sense of responsibility. I live on the 23rd floor of a east-facing condo in downtown Toronto, Canada and a pair are nesting in a garden basket. Yesterday, I heard the female sounding quite aggitated and, sure enough, there was an egg. This morning, she laid a second one. What should I do, or not do? I remember I was told as a child never to touch an egg, and I leave them alone when they're in residence. But what happens when it gets warm and I start spring cleaning on the balcony? And what when it gets really hot and we start eating outside? Will they become tame? How long does it take from the laying of the egg to the hatching, and how long from the hatching to the little ones becoming independent? It's very exciting being about 6 ft. from the action, and they don't seem to mind our moving around inside the condo and watching them. Our windows cover the entire 17 ft. balcony. Nor do they start when I open the door to hear him sing. But what now? Should I start putting out seed or just mind my own business. All advice most welcome. Cheers from the great lone land.Hi rodneyjohn,

On behalf of all the Admin Staff and Moderators, let me welcome you to BirdForum.

Simply, I would leave them alone and not worry too much... but I'll let some of our Can/US members give you any more sepcific advice.

:t:

birdman
Friday 23rd April 2004, 17:26
Hey everyone
Even tho Ive had an interest in birds for a long time I have only recemtly started bird Watching.
Has anyone any tips?
Thank youEnjoy It!!!

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jgrattigan
Friday 23rd April 2004, 17:51
Hey, lobster, I've been interested in birding for a while but only been serious for just over a year now. A good pair o' bins and that Collins book!! Some tips on what not to do - Don't subscribe to text/e-mail alerts!!!! Apart from the initial cash to subscribe, you'll find yourself forking out a several hundred quid in petrol money travelling all over the blinking place!! I went onto the Birdguides.com website and got the e-mail notification subscription for my area - I get around 20 alerts per day!! I awoke one morning and checked my e-mails, as you do, and saw that there were a few Marsh Harriers at Blacktoft Sands. What did I do? I phoned my boss to tell her that I'd been up all night with vomitting and .....sorry I can't spell diahorrea???....and that I wouldn't be at work today!!! Shame!!! It's very addictive - I even dream of those nice Swarowski binoculars!!

SimonC
Friday 23rd April 2004, 18:07
............. I even dream of those nice Swarowski binoculars!!:D

It's when you start dreaming of strange birds and then spend the next day trying to ID it that you know you've got a problem!!




Hey everyone
Even tho Ive had an interest in birds for a long time I have only recemtly started bird Watching.
Has anyone any tips?
Thank you
Hi Lobster ;)

Like most others, I'm going to suggest you get yourself a decent pair of binoculars and a good field guide. When you choose your bins, don't be tempted by anything that has a magnification of more than 10x (especially if they are really cheap!!)

If you have a garden, putting up a feeder or two and studying the birds that visit them will give you the chance to practice your ID skills (and your new bins!) in comfort!

Most importantly of course is to enjoy it!! :t:

Bluetail
Friday 23rd April 2004, 18:26
Hi, funky. I'd just add that, if you're interested in seeing a good variety of woodland or farmland birds, you'll maximise your chances by getting out as soon after dawn as you can. Although you can see birds at any time of day (especially at this time of year when they're singing), they're most active before about 10 a.m. After that it goes distinctly quieter.

On estuaries it's different since the action is governed by the tides. Depending on how the estuary in question is best viewed, look for the birds either at their high-tide roost (you'd need to ask to find where these are) or, at low tide, out on the mudflats.

columbidae
Sunday 25th April 2004, 05:33
I have been birding for about two years, and still consider myself very much a "new" birder. In addition to the very good advice already given, I would add, start a life list of birds you have seen, and enjoy adding to it. However, don't get caught up in comparing your list to other peoples' lists, or thinking of it as a competition. The size of your list will have much more to do with where you live and how much money you can afford to spend on bird related travel, than on how "good" a birder you are. It took me a while to realize this.

celestejoan
Saturday 5th June 2004, 17:53
[QUOTE=SimonC]:D

It's when you start dreaming of strange birds and then spend the next day trying to ID it that you know you've got a problem!!

now i know i'm in trouble. i have a "memory" of a bird and remember that i wanted to rush home to my bird guide to identify it. but now i'm not sure if it was real or it was a dream.

c

Henrik Hestbech
Sunday 6th June 2004, 10:58
Has anyone any tips?

Yup: Do not start by going on trips for rarities. It will take a while before you are really able to appreciate them.

Get a good guide book. The best in Danish is by Mullarney, Svensson & Zetterström.

Pace yourself - get acquainted with the more common species first. Get to know the different bird families (from a guide).

Get to know the songs. Start with the most common and characteristic (easiest) like yellowhammer, chiffchaff, willow warbler, chaffinch, white throat and so on. When you know these, you can use them for comparison with the more difficult species. Also, it's easier to mentally filter something away, if you know it (if you're listening for something interseting and donøt want to pay attention to something more common)

Take notes: Write a list of the birds you've seen every time you're out, and make a list of all the bird you've seen - it can be useful to make a list of "maybe seens". too

Have fun. :cool:

- Henrik

Henry B
Tuesday 6th July 2004, 14:09
Are there any recomendations for mpv,s for birding? I currently drive a suzuki wagon r, auto,but will be changing it next year. Something a little more roomier would be ideal ,but must have a boot big enough for folding wheelchair. Any suggestions most welcome,

Tero
Tuesday 6th July 2004, 15:36
Go outside and look for birds. Ignore the large two footed mammals, their doings are boring and predictable.

Dan drough
Tuesday 6th July 2004, 22:41
My best tip is - don't stand up in a canoe - especially in Africa.

Nightranger
Wednesday 7th July 2004, 09:59
Hey everyone
Even tho Ive had an interest in birds for a long time I have only recemtly started bird Watching.
Has anyone any tips?
Thank you

The first thing to do is find a friendly, experienced birder because it is the best way to learn quickly. I learned more in one day on a bird race trip around Anglesey with Dr Richard Arnold than at any other time as a birder. The second tip is to cram in all the knowledge you can about familiar bird species with the easiest and most accessible being house sparrows, magpies, starlings and blue tits. Keep adding species to your list in terms of getting to know them and you will soon build up a good knowledge. Most people could easily start off with confidence of at least 25 species. When identifying unfamiliar birds, take the Bill Oddie adage of assuming the bird is common in the first instance. In fact, the commonest mistake made is to look in the guides and assume the bird is rare because it does not fit the illustrations exactly. For example, a blue tit with an abnormal bill or a blackbird with white patches is just that. Bird guides are getting better but they still have limitations and this is where an experienced head comes in. Finally, find your own level so that you can enjoy your birding. There are people that collect species (listers or twitchers) or people who enjoy making detailed notes of behaviour (ornithologists). Everyone is a bit of each and just about everything in between so there is plenty of scope for doing whatever you want.

Welcome to a lifelong obsession!

Tim Allwood
Wednesday 7th July 2004, 15:08
keep away from canoes entirely, never mind standing up in them

if possible:
go to Norfolk
learn commoner birds and calls and sketch what you see
then....
go to a rainforest
go to a desert
see a hummingbird
see a hornbill
join a bird conservation group
green your lifestyle
enjoy it all

Michael Frankis
Wednesday 7th July 2004, 15:16
if possible:
go to Norfolk
Bad spelling error there, it is correctly spelled 'Northumberland'

;)

Tim Allwood
Wednesday 7th July 2004, 15:20
you old wag you Michael

how remiss of me

Norfolk second on the list then.......

Geoff Brown
Wednesday 7th July 2004, 21:08
Are there any recomendations for mpv,s for birding? I currently drive a suzuki wagon r, auto,but will be changing it next year. Something a little more roomier would be ideal ,but must have a boot big enough for folding wheelchair. Any suggestions most welcome,
Henry

I use the new Fiat Panda as an all purpose gadget bag. Very nice and it has climate control too! ;)

Keith Dickinson
Sunday 15th August 2004, 22:30
Enjoy It!!!

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Birdman you got it in two words!!! that is the ONLY reason to be a birdwatcher, to enjoy it. I enjoy doing survey work for the BTO, but i can still get a hell of a buzz out of a simple Little Owl sat out in the sun on a wall.
Keith
;)

Andy Ledger
Monday 16th August 2004, 12:38
keep away from canoes entirely, never mind standing up in them

if possible:
go to Norfolk
learn commoner birds and calls and sketch what you see
then....
go to a rainforest
go to a desert
see a hummingbird
see a hornbill
join a bird conservation group
green your lifestyle
enjoy it all

Never seen a hornbill in the wild - mainly 'cos they don't appear on the marshes of North Kent, but having seen and heard one in captivity on holiday with the family this year, it really fired my ambition to go and see one in the wild one day. That is one of the good things about birding - there's always a dream to fulfill. Dream large.

StuartReeves
Thursday 19th August 2004, 19:05
Find a local patch, an area near home where you can go go birding as often as possible. Watch and learn all the local birds and sooner or later you'll find something good there. Finding your own 'rarity', even if it is only a rarity on your patch, is an amazingly satisfying experience.