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gthang
Friday 9th April 2004, 22:23
Wanted to know, since It was found near a row of coniferous trees, and maybe get some habitat information to help find birds.
Jane Turner
Saturday 10th April 2004, 00:05
Where is MF when you need him?
StevieEvans
Saturday 10th April 2004, 00:43
Hey!
If you lived "over 'ere" you could phone our Governments Special Cone Hotline for info.....
;)
I believe the cone in the picture is from Pinus freewayus commonly known as the MotorWayfaring Tree.
Jane
Dont worry i think 'conehead' is Still writing up his list of Birds of Northumberland which i 'spotted' for him 2day ;)
Stevie.
gthang
Saturday 10th April 2004, 01:37
Yeah, this question was direction at BF's resident conehead, where the heck is he!!!?
Screech
Saturday 10th April 2004, 08:43
Looks like it may be a Hemlock (Tsuga canadensis) a common evergreen in eastern NY. A photo of trees would help.
Michael Frankis
Saturday 10th April 2004, 12:13
Hi Gthang & all,
This one's a White Spruce (Picea glauca)
Michael
Too tired after being out birding all day, to go on-line y'day ;)
Michael Frankis
Saturday 10th April 2004, 14:33
Here's some White Spruce cones of my own to compare
Michael
helenol
Saturday 10th April 2004, 15:37
Whilst we're on the subject, what is this, found on a road in Santa Monica, CA?
Michael Frankis
Saturday 10th April 2004, 15:43
Whilst we're on the subject, what is this, found on a road in Santa Monica, CA?
This one's Canary Island Pine (Pinus canariensis), a popular ornamental tree in southern coastal Calif, from the Canary Islands.
Michael
gthang
Saturday 10th April 2004, 18:00
Now, If I remember correctly, those trees would have been shipped from western Africa? Canary Islands off the coast of Morocco?
No, I didn't look at any maps!
gthang
Saturday 10th April 2004, 18:01
So Michael, any pointers on Identifying cones?
Like seed size, or cone size?
Jane Turner
Saturday 10th April 2004, 18:14
Hi Gthang & all,
Too tired after being out birding all day, to go on-line y'day ;)
You getting past it?
Michael Frankis
Saturday 10th April 2004, 19:18
Now, If I remember correctly, those trees would have been shipped from western Africa? Canary Islands off the coast of Morocco?
No, I didn't look at any maps!
Yep, spot on!
Michael
Michael Frankis
Saturday 10th April 2004, 19:23
So Michael, any pointers on Identifying cones?
Like seed size, or cone size?
Hi Gthang,
Bit of a complex one - but it is very much like identifying birds, you use different parts for different species, just like using size & tail pattern for Downy/Hairy Woodpeckers, but other features for different difficult birds. Overall, cone size and seed size are valuable, so are scale shape, shape & position of any umbo (the 'knob' on each scale of the cone Helen posted), colour, surface texture (glossy or matt) and so on.
I've been collecting cones since I was 6 so pretty much recognise most of them instinctively now - same as you do for common birds, you instantly put the right name to it, but without always knowing exactly why.
Michael
Michael Frankis
Saturday 10th April 2004, 19:27
You getting past it?No - because of far too many late nights going through Bird Forum! (takes about 3-4 hours now to go through the day's accumulation of BF posts . . . maybe I'm answering too many . . . )
Well, yesterday, the sleep deprivation finally caught up with me
Michael
gthang
Saturday 10th April 2004, 19:37
Get some sleep Mikey boy! The less people sleep, the crankier people get (Especially when you're too tired to concentrate on work!). The More people sleep, the crankier people get (especially when they wake up late for work!)
Michael Frankis
Saturday 10th April 2004, 19:58
Yeah, wish I could . . . just now, the list of threads to read is growing faster than I can read them . . . He-e-e-elp!!
Michael
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