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Kevin Wade
Tuesday 25th May 2004, 23:45
What are the basic differences between these two Manfrotto heads?

Kevin

postcardcv
Saturday 29th May 2004, 10:52
basic spec on the two heads....

128rc - weight 1kg, max load 4kg, head height 4.6", adjustable pan handle
700rc - weight 0.5kg, max load 2.5kg, head height 3.8", fixed pan handle

As shown in the spec listed the 128 is a heavier, large head which can handle heavier kit than the 700. That said I know a number of birders who use the 700 without any problem - even with larger scopes.
The adjustable pan handle on the 128 is a useful feature as it allows you to use either hand to pan with. Of the two heads I'd say that the 128 is probably the better - feels very solid when you use it. That said I use the 200xl (the head that was replaced by the 700) and have found it to cut and excellent middle ground between the 128 and the 700.

IanF
Saturday 29th May 2004, 15:12
Another consideration is the way the mounting plate is fitted.

With Swaro scopes - at least with the ATS 80 - you don't need to use a plate at all with the scope as the scope foot fits directly into the plate socket of the 128rc head.

With the 700rc the plate is turned through 90° and so the scope by itself won't fit ie. you need to use the plate.

A minor point but I'm finding the connection is much more stable without having to use the plate.

scampo
Saturday 29th May 2004, 15:20
I have the 700RC2 and it's lovely and a far more modern looking design - that extra 500g saving is v-e-r-y worthwhile when you're lugging the kit around.

Ruger
Saturday 29th May 2004, 17:21
I have the 700RC2 and it's lovely and a far more modern looking design - that extra 500g saving is v-e-r-y worthwhile when you're lugging the kit around.

Scampo ,
Would your tripod/head set-up do a "good" job at digiscoping with a coolpix 4500.

Kevin Wade
Saturday 29th May 2004, 19:53
Thanks for the information - further to Ruger's point - do you need a plate for the Zeiss Diascope with the 700 head when digiscoping?
Kevin

POP
Saturday 29th May 2004, 20:15
Ruger for digiscoping i would use an extension plate for your 128c head,an excellent peice of kit.

John

deboo
Saturday 29th May 2004, 21:36
I use a 128 head with a 'Leica plate' for my Apo 77...very happy with the combo.
Fuchsia has a 700 head for her Nikon 82..which IMHO works better for her..due to the position of the 'scope onto the head...it is rotated 90 degrees...with the added advantage of weight saving.
She also has a Coolpix 4500, and some of the photo's she has taken are quite superb...
So...as the saying goes...
"You pays your money....you takes your choice."

Dave.

scampo
Sunday 30th May 2004, 00:19
I'm a beginner at digiscoping but the combination works well with my CP4500 and LCE adaptor; it also works well with my son's Swaro scope and CP4500; and it locks solidly, too.

ed78user
Monday 7th June 2004, 19:54
I'm a beginner at digiscoping but the combination works well with my CP4500 and LCE adaptor; it also works well with my son's Swaro scope and CP4500; and it locks solidly, too.

Hello.

Same here. I have a Velbon D700 tripod which I've attached the 700RC2 head onto (after small mod's) and use with a Nikon ED78 and Coolpix 4500.

The 700RC2 head feels so much better and does not droop when targeting birds, unlike the Velbon head. I do however find the panning action not as nice as the Velbon???

Regards

scampo
Monday 7th June 2004, 23:27
My son still has a Velbon and I was wondering if a 700RC would fit. Was it very difficult to modify?

ed78user
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 00:55
My son still has a Velbon and I was wondering if a 700RC would fit. Was it very difficult to modify?


Hello.

It wasn't :eat:

I purchased the Manfrotto 1/4in to 3/8in adapter which screws into the head. I unscrewed the Velbon head from the D700. Next I cut down the 1/4in male thread to fit into the 700RC2 head.

Finally I drilled a couple of holes into the diecast top plate of the D700 and used a tap to create a 2.5mm thread thus enabling me to secure the 700RC2 head once it was screwed down all the way.

I would attach a photo but I've just deleted it. I'll take another tomorrow.

Regards

scampo
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 18:03
Thanks Ed - I shall be giving it a go as soon as I can afford another 700RC!

ed78user
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 21:04
Thanks Ed - I shall be giving it a go as soon as I can afford another 700RC!


Hello again.......

The Velbon with 700RC2 head on.

Regards

P.S I obtained my 700RC2 head from E-bay 'Henry's' of Toronto, Canada. Cost me approx $45 inc P+P to Blighty. Arrived in around 1 week.

scampo
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 21:17
$45-00??? US or Canadian? I feel sick - paid twice that in £ almost a couple of months ago. I'll not make that mistake again. What the hell are Manfrotto doing selling at sky high prices here?

Kevin Wade
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 21:49
Just taken delivery of a 700RC2 Nat today, along with the 055Nat3 tripod. Looks and feels great. The head cost 80 euros from Oryx in Barcelona (www.weboryx.com - approx 45GBP) Do I need an extra plate for a Diascope 85? I'm getting the scope at the end of the month.
B (:
Kevin

Kevin Wade
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 21:50
Or perhaps more like 54 GBP!

scampo
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 22:02
All Manfrotto tripod heads use a plate - but this is included with the 700RC2 (I think 'RC' refers to removable plate).

ed78user
Tuesday 8th June 2004, 22:54
Hi

I meant to say in my earlier post that it cost me £45 not $45 Canadian.

Thats the head and shipping to the UK.

It was new in box.

Regards

scampo
Wednesday 9th June 2004, 19:20
No duty on EC goods, I should expect - but 17.5% VAT is charged - and the bill always comes later if not included by the supplier.