SloQuiz

[Jurij Hanžel]

I know the idea isn't particularly innovative but I suppose it won't do any harm if I add my version of Fin and Rom quiz.
Here goes, two easy Slovene names, the others are translated.

1 Temminckov prodnik
2 Siva bulverica
3 Wood owl
4 Willow blacksmith
5 Drinker (archaic, you'll probably need a hint)

[Darren Oakley-Martin]

Hi Hanzel, or Jurij!

1) Calidris temminckii?
2) Bulweria bulwerii?
3) Aegolius funereus?
4) Dendroscopus major?
5) Cinclus cinclus?

Regards,

[Ghostly Vision]

Ooooh, tasty

1. C. teminkii
2. Sitta europea (no Bulwer's in Slovenia, I would have thought)
3. A funereus
4. I thought maybe Parus major (song reminiscent of blacksmith's hammer at distance?)
5. Caprimulgus europaeus

Better than looking at rubbish quality mystery photos, this!!

Sean

[Darren Oakley-Martin]

Ah yes! Think maybe Sean is right with #5. Is there not a 'myth' that Nightjars drank of sheep's blood? Or did I make that up?

[Andrew Rowlands]

Ah yes! Think maybe Sean is right with #5. Is there not a 'myth' that Nightjars drank of sheep's blood? Or did I make that up?

I think you made it up, Daz ;)

Caprimulgus = goat-milker (very roughly translated).

Andy.

[Jurij Hanžel]

1 yes
2 yes
3 no
4 Sean you're on the right track
5 it's an onomatopoetic name deriving from the verb pil (to drink, pronounced peeu)

Two points for Darren.

[Darren Oakley-Martin]

Andy..........oh well, i was close.............ish. That sounds more realistic. Still think Sean is right with caprimulgus in that case.

Thanks matey,

[Ghostly Vision]

Jurij

Your marks were all based on Darren's answers? So I only got right?

In that case

3.Ural Owl
4.Coal tit
5.Buzzard

[lou salomon]

Go on with this Jurij, we've got 3 language families now!
first 2 ones seem quite easy:
1 - Calidris temminckii
2 - Bulweria bulweri
3 - Asio otus
4 - Parus montanus
5 - Charadrius dubius
Where are you, K?
Lou

[SimonC]

5 it's an onomatopoetic name deriving from the verb pil (to drink, pronounced peeu)

Vanellus vanellus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Sean, you're very close with the owl.
Lou, you're right but Darren was faster.
Others wrong.
The blacksmith isn't a tit.
5 repeats the peeu in series of about 8.

[Ghostly Vision]

Now I'm confused!! Which ones did Lou get right?

3.Owl - Great grey then?
4.Chiffchaff
5.Drinker - Wryneck, or perhaps Grey-headed woodie

[Jurij Hanžel]

3. no, I meant they're similar in colours
4 correct
5 one of them is right decide which

Darren 2
Sean 1

[lou salomon]

Now I'm confused!! Which ones did Lou get right?

with the first 2 probably
maybe Drinker = Willow Tit???

[lou salomon]

ok, 5 is Picuscanus

[lou salomon]

the owl is Strix aluco then
btw collybita is derived from (ancient) greek which means "the money changer"
Lou

[Jurij Hanžel]

Yes Lou, right about nr. 5 and the owl.
I suppose I can award points to you and Sean, one each for P. canus.
The scoreboard:
Darren 2
Sean 2
Lou 2

[Jurij Hanžel]

The winners of round one are: Darren, Lou and Sean. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Round 2 (answers come in ten minutes, if you guess quickly or on Friday if you don't):

6. Black-headed gull
7. Mediterranean gull
8. Brownie (non-passerine)
9. Miller
10. Snaker

The gulls are a trick question ;)

[SimonC]

One last guess then I'm giving up (I'm rubbish at these quizzes!)

10 Wryneck

[lou salomon]

The winners of round one are: Darren, Lou and Sean. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Round 2 (answers come in ten minutes, if you guess quickly or on Friday if you don't):

6. Black-headed gull
7. Mediterranean gull
8. Brownie (non-passerine)
9. Miller
10. Snaker

6 - Mediterranean Gull (melanocephalus)
7 - Larus michahellis
8 - ?
9 - Motacilla alba
10 - Short toed Eagle (C. gallicus)

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, wrynecks usually eat ants.

[Darren Oakley-Martin]

Do the first 2 seem a bit easy? Or is it just me?

9) Miliara calandra

No idea on the other 2 though!

[SimonC]

No, wrynecks usually eat ants.
I was thinking of the threat display actually ;)

[Jurij Hanžel]

6 & 10 go to Lou.
Others wrong.
Sorry Simon, didn't get the wryneck at first ;)

Lou 2

[lou salomon]

8 - vote for Aythya nyroca

[Jurij Hanžel]

Lou, right family wrong bird.

[lou salomon]

7 - Larus genei ?

[lou salomon]

oh no! I#M quite sure it is audouinii!!!

[lou salomon]

so it is Motacilla cinerea?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Yes (for the gull)!!
Only the duck and miller to go. The miller is a warbler.
Keep pondering, I'm off.
Cheers!

[Darren Oakley-Martin]

7) Larus melanocephalus

[lou salomon]

duck (brownie) - A. strepera
miller - Locustella naevia

Lou

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nope, nope.
Don't look for the male ...

[lou salomon]

so Brownie is the word for female Mallard then? or for female ducks in general? deja vues!
Lou

[very boring banned member]

8 - Anas penelope?
9 - Phylloscopus sibilatrix?

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, no, no.
Browny refers to female and imm. plumage.
I'm sure they're common in Finland.
Miller is a Sylvia.

[very boring banned member]

8- Aythya fuligula?
9- Sylvia curruca.

[Jurij Hanžel]

8 close but no
9 yes

Lou 3
Karwin 1

[very boring banned member]

8- A ferina?
Where are you, K?
I am here, where U at?

[Jurij Hanžel]

8 no! You were soooooooo close with A. fuligula

[very boring banned member]

Hitsi. I have to wade through all of them? A marila?

[Ghostly Vision]

A. marila then.

Sean

[Jurij Hanžel]

Yes! A. marila
Round 2 is over and Lou is the winner :clap:
Followed by Karwin with 2 pts.
Round 3:
11 Bluelet
12 Blue robin
13 Water thrush (very archaic 200 yrs. at least)
14 Crabber
15 Silky

[very boring banned member]

11 Parus caeruleus?
12 Luscinia svecica?
13 Cinclus cinclus?
14 Dromas ardeola?
15 Podiceps cristatus?

[lou salomon]

11 - to be different: Alcedo atthis
12 - Luscinia svecica (although tried by K, but it must be it)
13 - Cinclus cinclus ( " " " " " " " " ")
14 - Haematopus ostralegus
15 - Egretta garzetta

[Ghostly Vision]

I'm going to be lazy and use the vernacular

1. Bluethroat
2. Blue tit
3. Got to be Dipper
4. Oystercatcher
5.Squacco heron?

Sean

[Jurij Hanžel]

11 yes, but this one has two answers, 1 pt for Karwin
12 1 pt for Karwin
13 reason would suggest Cinclus but as I said, the name is very very very archaic
14 no, it's Shelleater in Slovene
15 a passerine

Maybe you recognise 15 from this logo (http://www.ptice.org/?level_one=predstavitev&level_two=o_drustvu&level_three=o_drustvu)

[lou salomon]

13 - hm, turdus viscivorus
14 - limosa limosa
15 - bomycilla garrulus

[Jurij Hanžel]

No all wrong. Check the link on logo.

[very boring banned member]

13- Actitis hypoleucos?
14- Charadrius hiaticula?
15- Cettia cetti.

[Jurij Hanžel]

15 spot on
The elusive Water thrush is a bird that doesn't really look like a thrush. It has already been mentioned as an answer (wrong of course).
Karwin 3

[very boring banned member]

13- Alcedo atthis?
14- Pluvialis squatarola?

[Jurij Hanžel]

13 yessss!!!!!!
14 is not a wader.
Karwin 4

[Jurij Hanžel]

The second answer for bluelet is hiding in a member's nickname. The member has made a large contribution to a thread in the quiz section.

[very boring banned member]

14- Larus argentatus.

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, wrong again, a few pages forward in the book.

[very boring banned member]

Which guide or systematix?! ;)
14- Alca torda?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Yes, yes getting veeeeeeeeery close.

[very boring banned member]

Fratercula arctica?..

[lou salomon]

Alle alle!

[Jurij Hanžel]

Lou grabs it!!
Only the second blulet left.

[lou salomon]

Coracias garrulus

[Jurij Hanžel]

nope, a smaller bird

[lou salomon]

Monticola solitarius

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nope.

[lou salomon]

[I]Sitta europaea[I] (even though not really blue)
then there is no european bird I can imagine with blue in it, blue being the rarest colour in a bird anyhow. TORTURE.
Lou

[Jurij Hanžel]

A tip: Rare breeder in E Finland (arrives from late May)
The bird isn't blue overall.

[Jurij Hanžel]

Come on, guys! You can do it!
I want to move to the next round.

[SimonC]

I'm going to take a stab at an answer then run for cover ;)

Tarsiger cyanurus

[Jurij Hanžel]

What a relief!! The agony has ended.
The round's winner is Karwin :clap: , followed by Lou and SimonC.
Round 4:
16 Pearl steppe chicken
17 Lake sandpiper
18 Sea stint
19 Flatbiller
20 Brown ringed runner

[very boring banned member]

16- Syrrhaptes paradoxus?
17- Actitis hypoleucos?
18- Calidris maritima?
19- Platalea leucorodia?
20- Jesse Owens?

[lou salomon]

16 it's probably it (Syrrhaptes) but I take Pterocles orientalis
17 Tringa stagnatilis
18 Calidris alba
19 Anas clypeata
20 Charadrius leschenaultii
most of them just to be diff.
Blou

[Jurij Hanžel]

18 correct

Karwin 1
Others wrong. Happy wading!

[very boring banned member]

16- Rostratula benghalensis?
17- Charadrius hiaticula?
19- Eurynorhynchus pygmaeus?
20- Burhinus oedicnemus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Wow, they aren't all waders! I'm sure you can wade your way to the non-wader answer ;)

[very boring banned member]

16- Larus argentatus?
17- Larus argentatus?
19- Larus argentatus?
20- Larus argentatus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Come on!! Don't give up!
A hint all are waders except the first one (steppe chicken).
One representative per genus.

[lou salomon]

16 Turnix sylvatica?
17 Tringa glareola?
19 Limicola falcinellus?
20 Charadrius mongolus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

19 yess!

You're getting closer, sure you can work it out.

Karwin and Lou 1

[lou salomon]

16 numida meleagris
17 tringa nebularia
20 charadrius asiaticus grmbl

[very boring banned member]

17 Lake sandpiper- Tringa ochropus?
20 Brown ringed runner- Charadrius dubius?

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, no, no, no Charadrius here.

[lou salomon]

17 this can be over 20 species.. ok, next try: philomachus pugnax
20 glareola pratincola

[very boring banned member]

17- Tringa totanus.
20- Cursorius cursor.

[Jurij Hanžel]

20 Lou gets it!

Lou 2
Karwin 1

Come on just the tringa and steppe chicken left.

[lou salomon]

16 - Pterocles alchata
17 - Tringa erythropus after we waded through all of them

[Jurij Hanžel]

Lou, I'm terribly sorry, overlooked your stagnatilis early on. Really sorry. You got the steppe chicken too.

Lou 4
Karwin 1

Lou wins!! :clap:

New ones:
21 Great earie
22 Italian crow
23 Alexander
24 Sultana (not the raisin!)
25 Brown gull

[lou salomon]

21 Great earie - Podiceps cristatus
22 Italian crow - Pyrrhocorax pyrrhocorax
23 Alexander - Psittacula eupatria
24 Sultana (not the raisin!) - Porphyrula alleni
25 Brown gull - Stercorarius skua

[Jurij Hanžel]

So so close but yet a bit off the mark.

[lou salomon]

21 Great earie - Podiceps auritus
22 Italian crow - Pyrrhocorax graculus
23 Alexander - Psittacula crameri
24 Sultana (not the raisin!) - Porphyrula martinica
25 Brown gull - Stercorarius parasiticus

[Jurij Hanžel]

23 correct

Others wrong. The Italian is an archaic name. In the old days all the fancy goods came from Italy.

[lou salomon]

21 Great earie - Torgos tracheliotus
22 Italian crow - Coracias garrulus - it worked on Finnquiz...
24 Sultana (not the raisin!) - Falco cherrug
25 Brown gull - Calonectris diomedea

[Jurij Hanžel]

22 works here too!

Lou 2

[very boring banned member]

21- Bubo bubo?
24- Porphyrio porphyrio?
25- Larus ridibundus?

[lou salomon]

21- yes, it must be Bubo; i say Asio otus tbd
25- Larus hemprichii
____________

[lou salomon]

21- yes, it must be Bubo; i say Asio otus tbd
25- Larus hemprichii
____________

[Jurij Hanžel]

21 and 24 to Karwin.
Only #25 left to go, it's tricky.

[very boring banned member]

....???...
Stercorarius longicaudus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

nope.

[lou salomon]

Pandion haliaetus???

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, it is a water bird.

[very boring banned member]

Pluvialis apricaria?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Pluvialis - confused for a gull??
Don't think so. You were quite close with some guesses but I agree that the name is a bit inadequate.

[very boring banned member]

Larus argentatus. :C

[lou salomon]

you tried that one already, K, remember?
so I go for the last left Skua: St. pomarinus

[Jurij Hanžel]

Not a skua. I suppose I can tell you it's a gull now.

[very boring banned member]

A great race for colourblind, who also has cemency.. or was it demency.. Or my tactic is to repeat the name until You accept it ;)
Larus canus, perkele ;)

[lou salomon]

larus michahellis

[Jurij Hanžel]

It has two races, the nominate breeding in the Baltic.

[lou salomon]

thanx:
larus fuscus!
(but it seems that you slovenes have the same word for black/grey and brown... when looking at adults)

[Jurij Hanžel]

Lou, thanks for ending it! Yeah, I said the name was strange.
Lou wins! :clap:
Next round:
26 Aztec gull
27 Prairie gull
28 Cossack
29 Drummer
30 Quacker

[Jurij Hanžel]

And a very very special bird name (so I think):
Vermiculated baldie (not a WP bird)

You can score 2 points by guessing this one but no more hints!

[lou salomon]

26 Aztec gull - Larus atricilla
27 Prairie gull - Larus pipixcan, carefull, these 2 are the same in German
28 Cossack - Phalaropus lobatus (you mean, necessaire?)
29 Drummer - Tetrao urogallus
30 Quacker - Nycticorax n.

[Jurij Hanžel]

Lou, what can I say, I'm flabbergasted!
Lou 3 out of 7!!!!!!!!

[Jurij Hanžel]

Forgot to mention 28 & 29 wrong.

[lou salomon]

28 Alectoris graeca
29 Numenius arquata
31 Meleagris gallopavo

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, all wrong.

[lou salomon]

28 please just tell if it has to do with a sanitary sacklett? (cosmetica sack?), I've no idea what else "cossack" would mean; I try with Merops apiaster
29 Locustella naevia
31 Gymnogyps californianus though couldn't tell what it has to do with worms

[very boring banned member]

28- Tetrao tetrix?
29- Dryocopus?
31- Meleagris?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Oops, SloQuiz is lost now. All I can do is thank all the participants and I hope you enjoyed the quiz.
(Un)fortunately (for Lou), I still remember the unsolved ones:
Swoosher (genus)
Singer (genus)

[lou salomon]

ok, now let's start from the end:

swoosher - caprimulgus (just a vague try)
singer - sylvia again as you haven't had the chance to not confirm it.
cziirss,
lou

[Jurij Hanžel]

Singer is a relatively small genus.

[lou salomon]

my brain is not as young as your's,
swoosher - was it a WP bird? passerine?
singer - let's try: cercotrichas?

[Jurij Hanžel]

swoosher: WP, non-passerine

[lou salomon]

swoosher - gruiformes? a bustard? (e.g.tetrax ?)
singer - cettia?

[Jurij Hanžel]

swoosher: smaller
singer: 2 species in Slovenia

[lou salomon]

swoosher - gallinago?
singer - hippolais?

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, no.

[lou salomon]

ok lets start differently.
swoosher (1) - a passerine?
singer (2) - a thrush relative?

[Jurij Hanžel]

1 for the 99999999999999999999999th time, a NON-PASSERINE
2 not a Turdidae

[lou salomon]

oups, yeah, my brain is somewhere else; but how would you transcribe the word "to swoosh"?
1 - a wader?
2 - prunella

[Jurij Hanžel]

2 yess
1 move past the observer fast

[lou salomon]

calidris?

[Jurij Hanžel]

1 two of the genus are supposedly impossible to separate in the field

[lou salomon]

can't think of any supposedly inseparable pair of non-passerine WP sp (under good conditions).
apus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

can't think of any supposedly inseparable pair of non-passerine WP sp (under good conditions).
apus?

Really? They are grey (mostly). In the conditions where you mostly observe them (a great tip).

[lou salomon]

well, i can think of some "pairs" in mud, all of which can be separated under good viewing conditions:
- the two small porzanas (not really in mud, sometimes they are hard to id)
- the pluvialis sp. (but our europeans are easy to separate)
- mongolus/leschenaultii
- then there are all those stints/american:peeps; minuta/temminckii are easy, some vagrants are really hard: minutilla, maura, pusilla, ruficollis etc.
- the tringas are all easy except for the two yellowlegs which can call "grey"
- the limnodromus species are very hard
ok, if they are limicolae i'll go with limnodromus (i had a hard time in id-ing one of them as probably being griseus near san francisco and masses of non id-ied)

another possibility - grey sky, stormy weather way off in the sea having either:
puff puffinus/assimilis or a young stercorarius longicaudus/parasiticus

now is any óf theese matching your swoosher????

[Jurij Hanžel]

another possibility - grey sky, stormy weather way off in the sea having either:
puff puffinus/assimilis or a young stercorarius longicaudus/parasiticus

Ever closer, one of the two genus members that are hard to ID is very rare and endangered.

[lou salomon]

now it is clear:
pterodroma (feae/madeira)!

[lou salomon]

i guess they are indeed inseparable under normal conditions! (without having seen one...); point to you!

[Jurij Hanžel]

Ok, thought of one more:
3 Doomsdaybird (genus)

*Footnote: Doomsday is not to be taken literally, imagine a great storm or torrential rains. After that the grandmothers say:"Oh, it looked like Doomsday!"

[lou salomon]

Ok, thought of one more:
3 Doomsdaybird (genus)

*Footnote: Doomsday is not to be taken literally, imagine a great storm or torrential rains. After that the grandmothers say:"Oh, it looked like Doomsday!"

o my god! you slovenians really have funny bird names and your grannies seem to be very religious.

is it kind of an albatros?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nope, it's a common bird. I saw a huge flock of this genus' representatives form just before a storm so I believe the name.

[lou salomon]

apus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Yes. One more, one more!
4 Moony (genus)
Footnote: A bit of its original meaning (moony) was lost through the centuries, but it stems from MOON, referring to plumage.

[lou salomon]

tur torquatus? no, can't be if it's a genus! maybe cinclus if it's referring to full moon; if it is ref. to it's overall colour i'd try egretta or platalea since you said it is an old name. or histrionicus? but that can't be known centuries ago...

[lou salomon]

in german there is the name "moonbird" but it is phalera bucephala, a notodontidae (moth).

[Jurij Hanžel]

The moon isn't very big (in proportion to the bird)

[lou salomon]

columba palumbus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, it's a genus and the moon in question is a full one.

[lou salomon]

a full moon rising...gotta think a bit, wait a minute

[lou salomon]

bucephala? or is it not a WP bird?

[Jurij Hanžel]

A WP non-passerine genus

[lou salomon]

francolinus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

oh, come on, Slovenes didn't know about francolins until the 20th century!!

[lou salomon]

thats what i thought too, but where should that full moon be then? in a cormorant's buttom?

[lou salomon]

whatabout fulica?

[Jurij Hanžel]

The right body region! Come to think of it the moon isn't really full, let's say 1/2 to 2/3 full.

[lou salomon]

circus ?

[lou salomon]

or hydrobates?

[lou salomon]

somateria?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Circus it is!
You haven't solved the Black borderbird yet!

[lou salomon]

gosh! you probably expect me to remember all those details i asked already for this bb. i'm gonna fool myself again.

[lou salomon]

a corvid? is border meant as a "border" in the birds plumage or as the limit between countries etc..?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Passerine, non WP, remember the original borderbird.

[lou salomon]

euphagus cynocephalus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Oh my God! What's that??

[lou salomon]

brewer's blackbird, a common NA, related to e.g. quiscalus (grackles). since it is not, what about
calamospiza melanocorys (lark bunting) ?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Agh, it's not NA, it's Asian.

[lou salomon]

dunno asian birds, have to come later on, sorry. maybe a mynha of some sort????

[Jurij Hanžel]

Actually, its main range is in Africa but it does breed in Asia (Arabia) as well. This bird, as well as the "normal" border bird, habitually raises its tail.

[lou salomon]

anthreptes metallicus

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nope.

[lou salomon]

enlightement!???:
cercotrichas podobe

[Jurij Hanžel]

YES!!
Thought of another one:
Hoverer

[lou salomon]

fal tinnunculus

[Jurij Hanžel]

Hahahahaha! I KNEW you'd fall for it! We aren't as uninventive as you think, Lou!

[lou salomon]

and i suspected that it is not but why not try the obvious first?

buteo? merops apiaster?

[Jurij Hanžel]

No, no.

[lou salomon]

a sterna?

[Jurij Hanžel]

No. This is getting fun!!

[lou salomon]

very funny indeed. ok, is it an european, say slovenian breeder? is it small or big? (2 quests in order to make things run)

[Jurij Hanžel]

European yes, Slovenian no. As big as a ruler (30 cm).

[lou salomon]

i can offer Falco vespertinus
if it doesn't hover regularly i'm lost.

[Jurij Hanžel]

Thou art lost!! Try again!

[RockyRacoon]

I am new to this quiz, I'll have a go:
Ceryle rudis?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nice to have you here, Jake! But it's wrong. The "hoverer" is about 5 cm larger than rudis.

[RockyRacoon]

Streptopelia decaocto?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nooo, the bird is grey and white in colour. Rare in Europe, but a breeder.

[RockyRacoon]

Larus sp?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nope. The bird hovers.

[lou salomon]

think i got it: Elanus caeruleus

[Jurij Hanžel]

Yes!!

[Jurij Hanžel]

Booboo (sub-family)
Wooboo (sub-family)

I'm not sure about the term "sub-family" but I meant the unit between family and genus.

[RockyRacoon]

think i got it: Elanus caeruleus

That was my next guess, seriously!

[RockyRacoon]

Booboo (sub-family)
Wooboo (sub-family)

I'm not sure about the term "sub-family" but I meant the unit between family and genus.

Herons?
Owls?

[Jurij Hanžel]

OK, might as well tell you: BOTH terms are owl-related.

[RockyRacoon]

Ooo...

Booboo = Grey Owls?
Wooboo = Scops Owls?

[lou salomon]

booboo - bubo
wooboo - uralensis

[Jurij Hanžel]

Lou. it's a sub-family ends in -inae.

[lou salomon]

buboninae

[Jurij Hanžel]

Booboo down, wooboo to go.

[RockyRacoon]

Wooboo = The one Tyto alba is in?

[Jurij Hanžel]

No.
Lou was tantalizingly close with his previous answer. But it wasn't correct.

[lou salomon]

striginae...

[lou salomon]

as you know in german we say "Eulen" for Asio, Tyto, Otus, Surnia etc. and "Kauz" for Strix, Aegolius, Athene and Glaucidium which would closely match "wooboo".

[Jurij Hanžel]

striginae it is!
Probably the last of SloQuiz:
Tootoo (old folk name)

[lou salomon]

otus scops?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Not an owl.

[lou salomon]

botaurus?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Noooooo

[lou salomon]

greenshank? (i know it's not since it is an old folk name but for the sake of the last sloquizspecies i'll ask only species, not categories)

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nope.

[lou salomon]

columba oenas?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Nope.

[lou salomon]

is "tootoo connected to the birds voice?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Yes, it's onomatopoetic.

[lou salomon]

the thing with onomatopoetica is that different folks hear and spell bird's calls/songs differently. well, is it a passerine? is tootoo the song or the call of the bird? (otherwise i won't get closer). as a direct guess would be another dove: str decaocto, but that got to SLO only in the middle of 20th century;hm.

[Jurij Hanžel]

S. decaocto it is!!
Apparently it arrived before because I was reading a book from 1910 and it was described there as follows:"... numerous tootoos calling from the fields ..."
That closes SloQuiz, congratulations Lou for making it to the end!

[Jurij Hanžel]

Ah, another one (simply can't stop the quiz!), this one is last for sure:
Dwarfy (named by a Slovene writer blamed for getting numerous bird names confused)
This one has 2 solutions.

[lou salomon]

ixo and tachy

[lou salomon]

S. decaocto it is!!
Apparently it arrived before because I was reading a book from 1910 and it was described there as follows:"... numerous tootoos calling from the fields ..."


this is very strange: str dec must have invaded slovenia by about 1940!

[Jurij Hanžel]

Well, the author lived on the northern border with Austria, so maybe that makes a change. Who knows?

Ixo and tachy wrong.

[Jurij Hanžel]

Oh, by the way the STORY was happening in 1910, but the book wasn't published until about 1950. Maybe the tootoos were added as an embellishment.

[lou salomon]

have a look at the "pattern of spread in europe" drawn in the ebcc-atlas (sorry guys from the making of ebcc for breaking copyrights) attached. so maybe those tootoos indeed were an embellishment of somebody loving collared doves' tootooing but not knowing when the invasion took place.

other guesses for dwarfy:

cal. minuta, troglodytes trog.

[Jurij Hanžel]

Troglodytes down!
According to the Slovene atlas:"wasn't a common species before WWII" ... "first pair in Maribor (NE Slovenia) appeared in 1938", as a fact of interest it wasn't known in NW Slovenia until 1965!

[lou salomon]

regulus (regulus) for the other dwarfie?

[Jurij Hanžel]

Ring-a-ding-ding!
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