Leica vs. Swarovski

[JCJ]

Hello!
I would like for someone to please give me some insite on the Leica Ultravid 10x50s and a Swarovski slc 10x50s. I plan to buy one or the other, and am interested in some other opinions. I am interested in optical quality only -not size or weight. I would rather recieve information from a person who has actually compared these two modles.

Thank You

[hinnark]

Hello!
I would like for someone to please give me some insite on the Leica Ultravid 10x50s and a Swarovski slc 10x50s. I plan to buy one or the other, and am interested in some other opinions. I am interested in optical quality only -not size or weight. I would rather recieve information from a person who has actually compared these two modles.

Thank You

Hi,

didn´t I give you some informations before? However, I once wrote a little comparison report in usenet. It was the 10x50 Leica Trinovid that I wrote about. The 10x50 Ultravid is very similar with very very slightly more brightness and contrast than the Trinovid. The FOV is still the greatest of all 10x50/56 I know and it´s one of the best working binos in respect of CA, just as good as the new Zeiss Victory FLs. I would assume that the Leica Ultravid is now at least on par with the 10x50 Swaro in respect of brightness and contrast. There are some rumours that Swarovski would rebuild their big SLC series next year to make them lighter.

Here is the link:
http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=bfeda78c.0305010825.57b3b500%40posting.google .com

Steve

[TTT]

I seem to remember I've been down this road before, too B (:

I bought the Swarovski 10x50 SLC after comparing it with the Ultravid 10x50.

Both have truly excellent optics, perhaps with a very slight edge to the Leica. The reason I ended up with the Swarovski was that the Leica, to my surprise and dissapointment, showed pretty much flaring/ghosting. The Swarovski was excellent in this respect.

[JCJ]

Thanks for the replies.

[mork]

I think you should leave both binos alone and buy leupold golden rings.Leupold has better warranty than anybody in the business.Also you are going to get quality with leupold not lint,dust,coatings coming off,and of course the rattling EL'S.Leupolds bino is going to be tougher than the big three, because people that buy leupold actually use the product not just glance at a bird at the local sporting goods store and then talk about CA and pincusion distortion.

[Swissboy]

I think you should leave both binos alone and buy leupold golden rings.Leupold has better warranty than anybody in the business.Also you are going to get quality with leupold not lint,dust,coatings coming off,and of course the rattling EL'S.Leupolds bino is going to be tougher than the big three, because people that buy leupold actually use the product not just glance at a bird at the local sporting goods store and then talk about CA and pincusion distortion.

Mork, I am not familiar with Leupold, but you sound awfully like one of their reps! What do you think all those expensive toys are used for? Except for some lintwatchers and some collectors, these binos are used just like any others, and certainly not just by a few people watching from cars and hides. Or why would being waterproof be so important, for example?

[dwalton]

I think you should leave both binos alone and buy leupold golden rings.Leupold has better warranty than anybody in the business.Also you are going to get quality with leupold not lint,dust,coatings coming off,and of course the rattling EL'S.Leupolds bino is going to be tougher than the big three, because people that buy leupold actually use the product not just glance at a bird at the local sporting goods store and then talk about CA and pincusion distortion.
Odd. :h?:

And to be clear, I just bought a new pair of EL's, and they don't rattle.

[Leif]

I think you should leave both binos alone and buy leupold golden rings.Leupold has better warranty than anybody in the business.Also you are going to get quality with leupold not lint,dust,coatings coming off,and of course the rattling EL'S.Leupolds bino is going to be tougher than the big three, because people that buy leupold actually use the product not just glance at a bird at the local sporting goods store and then talk about CA and pincusion distortion.

Excellent. Some surreal humour on BF. Leif

[mork]

Excellent. Some surreal humour on BF. Leif
Tell me about it.

[iporali]

Leupold Gold Rings... 938g - almost as much as the Nikon HGs.
I would advice them to start designing the "L"-model ASAP.

Ilkka

[dwalton]

Leupold Gold Rings... 938g - almost as much as the Nikon HGs.
I would advice them to start designing the "L"-model ASAP.

Ilkka
Funny! :clap:

[elkcub]

Tell me about it.

Surreal = "characterized by fantastic imagery and incongruous juxtapositions."

Sounds right.

Elkcub

[Robert Ellis]

I think you should leave both binos alone and buy leupold golden rings.Leupold has better warranty than anybody in the business.Also you are going to get quality with leupold not lint,dust,coatings coming off,and of course the rattling EL'S.Leupolds bino is going to be tougher than the big three, because people that buy leupold actually use the product not just glance at a bird at the local sporting goods store and then talk about CA and pincusion distortion.


Ahh the excellent warranty. In the auto business, Hyundai brags about having the best warranty running, must mean the Hyundai is the superior make. In the lower models Leupold sources lesser prism glass, shines it up with L-coat, and tells you it is worth more money that way. I wouldn't recommend a company that charges extra for downgraded optics.

[Antony Kay]

Hello!
I would like for someone to please give me some insite on the Leica Ultravid 10x50s and a Swarovski slc 10x50s. I plan to buy one or the other, and am interested in some other opinions. I am interested in optical quality only -not size or weight. I would rather recieve information from a person who has actually compared these two modles.

Thank You

The only important difference between Leica and Swarovski, to my mind, is that the Swarovski have a warmer image. The only way to see if this matters to your eyes is try them both out.

[dwalton]

The only important difference between Leica and Swarovski, to my mind, is that the Swarovski have a warmer image. The only way to see if this matters to your eyes is try them both out.My wife's 10x42 SLCs definitely have a warmer image compared to my 8.5x42 ELs. It's funny though - those SLCs used to be mine, and when I used them, I never did notice the warmer tone until I'd owned them for a couple of years. And even then I didn't care about it. I think it's whatever you get used to. I do prefer the more neutral color of the ELs now though.

[mork]

Gentlemen,i guess its time for the flash light test for the great plastic FL'S and i know i better not drop them with that great zeiss warranty but the the FL has such a great close focus,peace of mind.

[Swissboy]

Gentlemen,i guess its time for the flash light test for the great plastic FL'S and i know i better not drop them with that great zeiss warranty but the the FL has such a great close focus,peace of mind.


Here comes the lintwatcher again. :h?:

[hummerman]

When you're out birding,just take a casual glance at the distinctlty,Austro-German binos on show,BRITS know their gear
Happy Leica user.

[elkcub]

"Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own"--Johathan Swift

[hummerman]

"He who laughs last usually doesn't get the joke".

Satire indeed !!!

[black lark]

I bought the Swarovski 10x50 SLC after comparing it with the Ultravid 10x50.



swarovski has a bad close focussing distance !!!

[etc]

And that's a problem how? What's the fascination with watching butterflies under your feet through 10x. It's a great astronomy binocular, anything that needs 10x punch.

I much prefer Swarovski for it has greater than Leica focus overdrive past infinity. *That* is more important that close-up distance (which comes at a price of reduced focus past infinity, as all in optics is a compromise), for a myopic person can use Swarovski more easily than Leica. I cannot believe that with the latest incarnation of the Trinovid, which is all that the Ultravid is, an updated Trinovid, they *still* haven't gained any extra and sorely needed focus overdrive. I suspect that would entail major redesign, much like Swaro EL is different from Swaro SLC, not just an upgraded version.

[Robert / Seattle]

"He who laughs last usually doesn't get the joke". ...

Either that, or it wasn't funny in the first place.

[black lark]

And that's a problem how? What's the fascination with watching butterflies under your feet through 10x. It's a great astronomy binocular, anything that needs 10x punch.

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it matters for birds that are difficult to indentify and are very close , 3 a 4 m