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youngbart
Thursday 7th April 2005, 20:13
Hey,

I am looking at buying my fist scope. I am interested in the Nikon Sky and Earth series 15-45x 60mm due to my limited budget as well I still need a tripod. I am a taller guy at 6'4" so the angled version of this scope appeals to me. I have found the straight scope with eyepiece included for $229 US at Digital Foto Club (http://www.digitalfotoclub.com). However I can only seem to find the 80mm angled scope with an eyepiece included (At Digital Foto as well as other online places). I priced out the angled body of the 60mm with a seperate eyepiece and its total came to $321 US. This would mean that the angled version of the Nikon Sky and Earth series 15-45x 60mm would cost me approximately $91 US more. Is this usually the case that the angled versions are more money?

Also I am from Ontario, Canada and I was wondering if anyone knows of any Canadian Optics shops that are good to deal with?
I would like to buy in house if possible to save on shipping etc.

Thanks any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Bart

Bubbs
Thursday 7th April 2005, 20:46
ANGLED..every time. For raptors there is nothing better...personal opinion.

John.

BarbaraM
Thursday 7th April 2005, 20:56
Also recommend angled - both for viewing birds in flight/up high and sharing scope with others of varied height! Barbara

youngbart
Thursday 7th April 2005, 21:18
Also recommend angled - both for viewing birds in flight/up high and sharing scope with others of varied height! Barbara

Have you found that a angled scope is usually greater in price. In my situation I am looking at around $91 dollars?

Thanks

Tero
Thursday 7th April 2005, 21:24
Check it out. Sometimes they have deals on one or the other. I think one can get used to either one. The angled one works better for stars, as they call it Earth And Sky.

Henry B
Thursday 7th April 2005, 21:31
Angled for me to.

birdman
Thursday 7th April 2005, 22:08
Angled here too...

Having now had reasonable experience of both, there's nothing you can do with a straight that you can't with an angled (as far as I can think) and you get less neck-ache.

Bubbs
Thursday 7th April 2005, 22:42
Have you found that a angled scope is usually greater in price. In my situation I am looking at around $91 dollars?

Thanks

NO..for tall people an angled scope is a must. If in a hide without a tripod, just turn the darned thing on it's side.

I have birded the western world and the WP and would'nt have a straight scope given..and I mean that. If I was given one it would go to the charity shop.

ANGLED....John

Bubbs
Thursday 7th April 2005, 22:46
NO..for tall people an angled scope is a must. If in a hide without a tripod, just turn the darned thing on it's side.

I have birded the western world and the WP and would'nt have a straight scope given..and I mean that. If I was given one it would go to the charity shop.

ANGLED....John

As a tall guy you would find a straight scope useless...unless you had a 6'4" tripod ;)

iporali
Friday 8th April 2005, 14:13
Have you found that a angled scope is usually greater in price. In my situation I am looking at around $91 dollars?

Thanks
Yes, the angled is usually more expensive, but it also has better resale value/it is easier to sell.

Ilkka

Humboldt Jim
Friday 8th April 2005, 17:25
When I was shopping for a scope the angled was either the same price or higher and it seemed to be brand dependent. Haven't a clue why.

Jim

bstevent
Monday 11th April 2005, 07:10
Hey,

I am looking at buying my fist scope. I am interested in the Nikon Sky and Earth series 15-45x 60mm due to my limited budget as well I still need a tripod. I am a taller guy at 6'4" so the angled version of this scope appeals to me. I have found the straight scope with eyepiece included for $229 US at Digital Foto Club (http://www.digitalfotoclub.com). However I can only seem to find the 80mm angled scope with an eyepiece included (At Digital Foto as well as other online places). I priced out the angled body of the 60mm with a seperate eyepiece and its total came to $321 US. This would mean that the angled version of the Nikon Sky and Earth series 15-45x 60mm would cost me approximately $91 US more. Is this usually the case that the angled versions are more money?

Also I am from Ontario, Canada and I was wondering if anyone knows of any Canadian Optics shops that are good to deal with?
I would like to buy in house if possible to save on shipping etc.

Thanks any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Bart
You might look at Pelee Wings. I've just ordered a scope from them and was impressed with the advice and the help.

http://www.peleewings.ca/

Bob

Corvus Corax
Monday 11th April 2005, 19:48
Hate to put a spanner in the works, but - - STRAIGHT - - scopes DO work for tall people.

I am 6'3'' and my cousin 6'5'' - we both own Leica APO 77's in the straight version and have been using them for several years without problems.

For comfort we use them with Manfrotto tripods (055's and 441's) and monopods (479-4) with 222 pistol grip heads which addd an extra 6" height.

Straight scopes also score highly if you do a lot of hide work.

Never experienced any difficulty following airborne birds or raptors (and would really like to know what charity shop John uses)

Best advice is to try both & decide from there

Good luck

Bubbs
Monday 11th April 2005, 20:02
Never experienced any difficulty following airborne birds or raptors (and would really like to know what charity shop John uses)

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Fair comment. In all my raptor visits; Israel, Egypt, Kenya, Greece, Europe, I see few people (in fact none that I can recall) using a straight scope. Surely that speaks volumes.

Charity shops are brill for classical CD's. A female friend of mine gets some of her clothes from Oxfam and recently asked me to guess the price of her beautiful top..."£75 I said"..."£1.50" she said ;) sadly she had forgotten to bring the used scopes and Ultravids along...women! ;)


John.

youngbart
Wednesday 13th April 2005, 18:26
Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions and ideas. I have not been a member of birdforum for very long but I can clearly see that there are quality comments and suggestions returned when you post a question and this is encouraging. I have decided to keep researching my scope options for a little while hoping that soon I may be able to increase my budget to look at some of the better scopes.

Thanks again everyone.
Bart

Bill A
Wednesday 13th April 2005, 18:59
Straight for me; I like to stand up straight behind my scope.

Bill

rka
Wednesday 13th April 2005, 22:14
Doesn't really matter. You will get used to whatever you buy.

Kevin Mac
Thursday 14th April 2005, 10:25
I have to put in a vote for a straight scope. I like to get onto shorebirds quickly as they run about- it messes me up looking at the ground trying to follow birds in front of me. I guess you can get used to it but I think straight is quicker.

Bubbs
Thursday 14th April 2005, 20:15
I have to put in a vote for a straight scope. I like to get onto shorebirds quickly as they run about- it messes me up looking at the ground trying to follow birds in front of me. I guess you can get used to it but I think straight is quicker.

Try looking at high flying raptors thru a staight scope....IMPOSSIBLE!

John.