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Jacamar
Monday 16th May 2005, 01:13
Anyone want to have a try at these? I think these should be pretty easy to ID but there are some harder ones coming.

Have fun,

Chris

Larry Lade
Monday 16th May 2005, 01:25
I will try:

1. Social Flycatcher
2. Blue-gray Tanager & Red-capped Manakin
3. ?

Jacamar
Monday 16th May 2005, 18:09
Oh my! I didn't even notice that there were two birds in the second photo. You're right, the one is a Blue-grey Tanager. The other is not a Red-capped Manakin though.
#1 is a good guess, but not correct.

Chris in France
Monday 16th May 2005, 18:22
Is the first one a Great Kiskadee? I was lucky enough to snap one of these in Mexico last year and your bird looks very much like mine........

Jacamar
Monday 16th May 2005, 20:25
Is the first one a Great Kiskadee? I was lucky enough to snap one of these in Mexico last year and your bird looks very much like mine........

A very good guess but no, it's not a Great Kiskadee.

Larry Lade
Monday 16th May 2005, 21:07
Could the other bird in the Blue-gray Tanager photo be a Crimson-hooded Manakin?

#1 maybe a Piratic Flycatcher?

Chris in France
Monday 16th May 2005, 21:36
A very good guess but no, it's not a Great Kiskadee.

OK, if it's neither Social Flycatcher nor a Great Kiskadee I'll go for the only other one that I know of that's similar and that's Boat-billed Flycatcher.

Jacamar
Monday 16th May 2005, 22:00
Could the other bird in the Blue-gray Tanager photo be a Crimson-hooded Manakin?

#1 maybe a Piratic Flycatcher?

Sorry, neither of those are right. Keep on trying!

Jacamar
Monday 16th May 2005, 22:34
OK, if it's neither Social Flycatcher nor a Great Kiskadee I'll go for the only other one that I know of that's similar and that's Boat-billed Flycatcher.

Not a Boat-billed Flycatcher either. There are several other similar species that haven't been mentioned...

Chris in France
Monday 16th May 2005, 23:00
Hmm...well I don't know what it is without looking up the books. Can't do that now since I'm about to sign off and I'm away for a couple of days. Will log on when I get back to learn the answer. Most intriguing!

Dave B Smith
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 04:27
I'll add the Lesser Kiskadee to the list of possibles for number 1. And there's at least one more but I can't think of the name right now and don't have my guides with me.

samuel walker
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 04:58
photo #1 is a banaquit I believe.
Sam

Rasmus Boegh
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 05:11
1) Rusty-margined Flycatcher (well, it has "rusty" margins on the wing, so why not).
3) World's dullest Yellow-green Grosbeak?

Larry Lade
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 05:34
And Chris said that these should be easy to ID! ;)

You guys think he was "pulling our leg"!

Rasmus Boegh
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 05:51
Regarding 1: While there have been several good guesses, most of them are relatively straight forward to exclude. The question is if we're looking at a Rusty-margined or a Lesser Kiskadee. All the others mentioned in this thread either don't have the rufous margins to the wing or the white eye-brows meet differently at the back of the head. Usually (but not always, that is the problem in this case), the white eye-brows of the Lesser appear more drawn down towards the mantle (almost as much as in some Great Kiskadees). Thus my primary guess is Rusty-margined. As for #3 I just can't think of anything else but the Yellow-green Grosbeak that could look like that, but perhaps the hidden face/bill is fooling me and it certainly does look duller than any Yellow-green Grosbeak I remember seeing.

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 12:14
#1 is a Lesser Kiskadee. Good job, Dave. (I think Lesser Kiskadee was your guess?)
It had a long, thin bill compared to Rusty-margined, and its voice was very distinct as well.

#2. No one else wants to guess? Ok, here's a hint: The bird is bigger than it actually looks. In fact, it is slightly larger than the Blue-grey Tanager that is in the same photo.

#3. No, it's not a Yellow-green Grosbeak. Hint: Notice the white eyebrow.


And Chris said that these should be easy to ID!

You guys think he was "pulling our leg"!

Well I didn't think they would be too hard, but that's easy for me to say because I already know what they are. ;)

James Lowther
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 14:09
Is no 3 a grayish saltator??

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 14:58
Is no 3 a grayish saltator??

Correct. Good Job!

Now only #2 is left. Once someone guesses that correctly I will post the second batch of mystery photos.

Rasmus Boegh
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 15:41
2) Red-capped Cardinal? (and of course the Blue-grey Tanager guessed by Larry)

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 15:53
2) Red-capped Cardinal?

Yes! #2 is a Red-capped Cardinal.

Good job, guys! Now here's the second batch.

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 15:56
BTW, here's that Red-capped Cardinal from a better angle.

Rasmus Boegh
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 16:20
1) Erhm? A White-bellied Ani????
2) Common Ground-dove.
3) Crimson-crested Woodpecker (although I'm not completely certain how I could rule out Lineated from that photo).

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 16:30
#1. White-bellied Ani? ;)

#2. Correct.

#3. Not a Crimson-crested, but you know what it is now, don't you. ;)

Rasmus Boegh
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 16:40
#1. White-bellied Ani? ;)

White-bellied... erhm, looking again I realize that what I thought was a pale belly actually are the iridescent wings! So, it's still an Ani (probably Greater), but no white belly!

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 16:47
Yes, #1 is a Greater Ani.

Anyone want to guess what the woodpecker is? ;)

James Lowther
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 17:06
must be lineated!

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 17:23
must be lineated!

Yes, it's a Lineated Woodpecker.

Here's another set of pictures. Some of these should be HARD!

Rasmus Boegh
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 17:36
1) Black-crested Antshrike
2) Blood-coloured Woodpecker
3) I'll let someone else have a go here - note bill.

James Lowther
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 18:03
3=wedge-billed woodcreeper

ps, i only know neotropic birds if they're found in belize, as it's the only field guide i own

Edit; don't think it is wedge-billed actually, probably one of the non-belizean woodcreepers, related to tawny-winged??

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 18:49
1) Black-crested Antshrike
2) Blood-coloured Woodpecker

And those were supposed to be hard! Good job. :t:

3=wedge-billed woodcreeper

ps, i only know neotropic birds if they're found in belize, as it's the only field guide i own

Edit; don't think it is wedge-billed actually, probably one of the non-belizean woodcreepers, related to tawny-winged??

It is not the Wedge-billed or the Tawny-winged. Keep trying!

edenwatcher
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 18:58
Better be a xenops then.

ROb

Jacamar
Tuesday 17th May 2005, 19:43
Better be a xenops then.

No, it's not Xenops. As James suggested, it is a Woodcreeper.

Jacamar
Wednesday 18th May 2005, 19:07
Anyone want to have a go at #3?

Rasmus Boegh
Wednesday 18th May 2005, 19:38
Here's a list of Woodcreepers found in Guyana, that should make it a bit easier:

Plain-brown Woodcreeper (Dendrocincla fuliginosa).
White-chinned Woodcreeper (Dendrocincla merula).
Long-tailed Woodcreeper (Deconychura longicauda).
Spot-throated Woodcreeper (Deconychura stictolaema).
Olivaceous Woodcreeper (Sittasomus griseicapillus).
Wedge-billed Woodcreeper (Glyphorynchus spirurus).
Cinnamon-throated Woodcreeper (Dendrexetastes rufigula).
Red-billed Woodcreeper (Hylexetastes perrotii).
Strong-billed Woodcreeper (Xiphocolaptes promeropirhynchus).
Amazonian Barred-Woodcreeper (Dendrocolaptes certhia).
Black-banded Woodcreeper (Dendrocolaptes picumnus).
Striped Woodcreeper (Xiphorhynchus obsoletus).
Buff-throated Woodcreeper (Xiphorhynchus guttatus).
Chestnut-rumped Woodcreeper (Xiphorhynchus pardalotus).
Cocoa Woodcreeper (Xiphorhynchus susurrans).
Straight-billed Woodcreeper (Dendroplex picus).
Streak-headed Woodcreeper (Lepidocolaptes souleyetii).
Lineated Woodcreeper (Lepidocolaptes albolineatus).
Curve-billed Scythebill (Campylorhamphus procurvoides).

No guarantees that the above list is complete, but the species involved is on it. I'm sure there must be people here on BF who are able to have a guess now as Chris's photo is fairly good.

swamp_rattler
Saturday 21st May 2005, 04:59
lineated?

Jacamar
Saturday 21st May 2005, 12:03
lineated?

No, it's not Lineated.

Here's another photo of the same bird.

Progne Subis
Wednesday 20th July 2005, 08:36
Sorry, obviously I didn't take a good enough look at your last comment before posting mine so please disregard it. So instead, maybe a green barbet or rufous woodpecker?

James Lowther
Wednesday 20th July 2005, 09:40
what's this all about - i thought this thread had died months ago!!
Jacamar, is it a straight-billed woodcreeper??

Rasmus Boegh
Wednesday 20th July 2005, 10:12
...maybe a green barbet or rufous woodpecker?

Green Barbet is an African species and Rufous Woodpecker is an Asian.

If you ever see a Woodcreeper with a pale, straight (or even slighly upward curved) bill there really only is one possibility unless you're in an area where you have to deal with Zimmer's. Anyway, James Lowther get a point for the Woodcreeper :t:

Jacamar
Wednesday 20th July 2005, 12:08
Jacamar, is it a straight-billed woodcreeper??

Yes (as Rasmus has already confirmed), it is a Straight-billed Woodcreeper.