Two for ID please

[Mike D]

Sorry if I appear totally ignorant of fungi by posting these two - but in truth I am just about!
Both found today at Holt, North Norfolk. One is growing on a Scotts Pine (didn't realise these trees were attacked until they died, does it mean it is an ex-tree?), the second is one of many different sorts growing on bark chippings, these also appeared to be predominenlty Scotts pines bits.

Reason I took the pic of the second was it was 'pretty' the way the light hit it.

Thanks in anticipation.
Mike D
Sorry, can't see if it's possible to attach two pics, so here is number one:

[Mike D]

Here is number two:

[Michael Frankis]

Hi Mike,

I suspect #1 may be Heterobasidion annosum (a.k.a. Fomes annosus), a rather destructive fungus on a range of conifers, including Scots Pine. If the tree was still alive, it probably won't be for much longer.

Don't know about #2.

Michael

[Mike D]

Thanks (again) Michael. I have to go out and buy a good book on fungi!
Mike

[steve_nova]

I agree with Michael on the first. The second is possibly an old specimen/s of Cantharellus cibarius (Chanterelle) which is beloved of cooks. If it smells of Apricots, then that is what it is!

[Mike D]

Hi Steve,
Yes, I forgot to smell the thing, but from the book I do have it would appear you are right. Thanks.

[cjay]

Sorry it is late but no is Chicken of the woods (Laetiporus sulphureus) It seems very common this year.

The second looks like Chanterelle

Colin J

[Billy Boy]

I agree with Steve on this, it does look like Cantharellus cibarius (Chanterelle/Girolle.

Billy Boy

[rog8811]

Hi guys, lets have a bit of controversy here, I think no 1 is Phaeolus schweinitzii, it has a lot of growing to do, if seen on a tree trunk it will end up as a large multi-layered bracket, if on roots or a stump it will make a large disk, brown in the middle with a yellow surround.
The second one is a bit far gone for me to attempt,

[Nina P]

I thought the first was chicken of the wood and the second chanterelle, very tasty indeed. Nina.

[rog8811]

Have a look at the lower left hand part of photo no 1 and you can see the brown top surface forming, when ripe this actualy feels like velvet.

Mike D, did you go and have another look at it at any time?

Thank goodness for the rain today, maybe there will be a few more fungi around to look at, I have found 5 species in the last week, three of these were brackets.

Regards rog8811

[Mike D]

Hi Rog8811,
I am just back from 6 weeks in Nigeria (working, I might add!) so I have had no chance to follow up on the progress of number 1.
Time allowing I'll buzz up to Holt in the next few days to see if there is anything left of it. If there is then perhaps I'll be able to post a second pic.
Mike

[Leif]

Sorry if I appear totally ignorant of fungi by posting these two - but in truth I am just about!
Both found today at Holt, North Norfolk. One is growing on a Scotts Pine (didn't realise these trees were attacked until they died, does it mean it is an ex-tree?), the second is one of many different sorts growing on bark chippings, these also appeared to be predominenlty Scotts pines bits.

Reason I took the pic of the second was it was 'pretty' the way the light hit it.

Thanks in anticipation.
Mike D
Sorry, can't see if it's possible to attach two pics, so here is number one:

No 1 is probably Phaeolus schweinitzii as stated by someone else. The clues are the host - Pine - and the dark areas This fungus is parasitic on Pine, appearing at the base. It is bright yellow when young, and then blackens with age. Old specimens are quite common and can last to the following year. Note that Laetiporus sulphureus does not grow on conifers.

The second one is not Chanterelle depite the orange colour. (Actually Chanterelle are more egg yellow.) Look at the undersides and you see true gills. Chanterelle have ridges not gills, ruling then out. There's a whole host of fungi it could be. False Chanterelles - Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca - are orange and have gills. They are quite common. Panus torulosus is similar, and grows on rotten wood. That would be my guess, but really without more details it remains as no more than a guess.

BTW: If you want to ID a fungus, there are all sorts of things to note that help:

General shape e.g. cap and eccentric stem.
Substrate e.g. host tree.
Nearby trees (if on the ground). Many grow in association with specific trees.
Smell. Some smell of aniseed, coal gas, rotting flesh and even mice.
Flesh texture, colour and colour changes.
Gill form.

And so on!