CATCHBIRD - new Ghostly Quiz

[Ghostly Vision]

Hello all,

Welcome to the new Ghostly Quiz. You don't need too much skill.

It's really simple - just say what you see. Each picture or set of pictures makes up a bird name. Simply name the birds. All are recorded in the Western Palearctic.

Please pm me with your answers - anyone can take part.

These pics will be up for a week, then no's 4-6 will be posted.

They are so easy!!

Have fun!

PLEASE DO NOT POST ANSWERS ONTO THIS THREAD!

gv

[Ghostly Vision]

Here is no.1

[Ghostly Vision]

Here's no.2

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And here's the third and final one for this round

[Ghostly Vision]

..just thought I'd bump this up to the top.

Only six participants so far - is it too easy? Too silly? Too difficult?

No prizes, just five minutes of fun. Come on down and have a little go....

GV

[the oilbird]

Inspired by the Guardian perhaps?

Great idea for a quiz! I like it

[the oilbird]

or is it the Sunday Independent??

[Ghostly Vision]

Thanks Oilbird - and for your answers.

No, I don't read any newspapers; I was just thinking one day of how could I make a bird quiz interesting, and came up with illustrating the names with non-bird pictures. It was the same idea as Catchphrase (the TV programme), so I took it from there.

Gv

[Sean F]

..just thought I'd bump this up to the top.

Only six participants so far - is it too easy? Too silly? Too difficult?

No prizes, just five minutes of fun. Come on down and have a little go....

GV

I think perhaps it is because its too easy.

Next time maybe you could do more together (if you can think of enough).

Great idea though.

[Jos Stratford]

I think perhaps it is because its too easy.

Is it? Number three, I suppose obvious when you see it, is currently stumping me! Took me a while to get number one too!!! Perhaps this is not my natural sphere ...you'll get my answers when number three clicks ;)

[delia todd]

It's No 4 I'm stuck on :stuck:

D

[Jos Stratford]

It's No 4 I'm stuck on :stuck:

D

Erm, there isn't a number 4 !

[delia todd]

shucks and I thought I was doing so well!:egghead:

"If I say the wrong thing put it down to Senior Moments" haven't you seen that bit? :gh: You really shouldn't be showing me up in public

erm... well we seem to be stuck on the same one then!

D

[dantheman]

No. 4 was easy! No.6 though . . .

[Sue Wright]

I know I've only just found this, but Nos 2 & 3 have me foxed.

It's good though GV, thanks. I'll do my best and think I've just sussed No.2, we'll see.

It's ok Delia, not just you.....I went back to look for No 4!!!!! Thanks Jos, good job someone's on the ball - cos it ain't me!!!

Sue.

[Helenelizabeth2]

I've only just spotted this. Thanks, Sean.

Answers on their way in a pm.

[Phil Carter]

Is it? Number three, I suppose obvious when you see it, is currently stumping me! Took me a while to get number one too!!! Perhaps this is not my natural sphere ...you'll get my answers when number three clicks ;)

Number 3 is a "kick yourself when you do get it" answer. I know I did,it took me hours to get it yesterday. Stupid thing is, I'd actually seen one on my way in to work that morning! (Hope I've got it right now.)

Phil

[Jos Stratford]

Number 3 is a "kick yourself when you do get it" answer.

Yes, I have just done so! I now understand I have some identification problems to sort out ;)

[Ghostly Vision]

Just a few extra points here....

BIRD NAMES; I use "English" ones. If a bird in modern vernacular has "Eurasian" or "common" or "Northern", or similar, I am not using that - it would be silly, and I don't like this over-qualification. So apologies to our overseas quizzers for that one. Birds where there used to be a single name use just that. Others where there are more than one species which all have/had more than one-word names are used as such. I'll try and use modern names where possible.

FRUIT IDENTIFICATION: My suggestion to the mods for a Fruit i.d. forum has been rejected on the grounds of immaturity and controversiality. In the meantime I can only apologize if people think no. 3 is a fruit NOT named after a bird (or vice versa)

ONE-PICTURE QUESTIONS: there will be more to come, since you all like them so much!

EASY QUESTIONS: See, it works every time - if you make the quiz really easy at the start, lots of people have a go. We're now up to 23 lucky punters. Most of you have all three of course. They will get a little more abstract and difficult as we go along.

Thanks to all for taking part. Any suggestions for bird names for me to include in future rounds are gratefully received. It won't give you any advantage as there's no prize and I won't necessarily use them all. And you'll still have to work them out.

I hereby attach numbers 4-6. Anyone who has already guessed 1-3 please submit answers to these, anyone else, give me six answers.

Delia - can I have your answer to number 7 at the same time as well, please? ;)

PS APOLOGIES IF NO.6 IS A BF MEMBER!!

GV

[delia todd]

Delia - can I have your answer to number 7 at the same time as well, please? ;)

GV


Of course you can GV :brains: - will I get a bonus point if it's right :-O

D

[Ghostly Vision]

If it's right I'll give you the money myself!!! (Or is that another quiz show?)

GV

[Blackstart]

I must give credit to my wife for getting #3 in about five seconds after I had been staring stupidly at the screen for some time.

Adam

[Jos Stratford]

My suggestion to the mods for a Fruit i.d. forum has been rejected on the grounds of immaturity and controversiality.

Could we have a blond bimbo i.d. forum at the same time?!

[Jurij Hanžel]

I'd like to second Jos's motion!

[Andrew]

Slow down Seamus! Still struggling with 1 and 3!

[redeyedvideo]

Got 1,2,4,5 & 6 in about 10 seconds. No.3 in two days! You bgga! B (:


Dave J

[MSA]

Got 1,2,4,5 & 6 in about 10 seconds. No.3 in two days! You bgga! B (:


Dave J

But are you sure you've got it ;)

[redeyedvideo]

But are you sure you've got it ;)


Please tell me I have :gn:

I even went through the apples, Brambling, no that's Bramley,,,,,,.......Golden (Oriole) Delicious....


Dave J

[Stephen Dunstan]

The other 5 are no problem, but 3 I just ain't catching on to.

Stephen.

[Stephen Dunstan]

Ok forget that, I have finally sussed it.

Stephen.

[Ghostly Vision]

...but Stephen, you have not proven so by Pming me your answers.....

It does appear that 3 is the hardest so far, though most people have got it. The single picture clues are always going to be the hardest, as no.6 is also proving.

There are now 30 people having a go - thanks all. Lots of different names are entering, so this is obviously appealing to a different type of quizzer.

Next ones up in a day or two, remember anyone can join in at any time, just answer the ones that have been posted at the time you join in.

Next few are quite easy methinks, but I have some much more subtle ones coming up, so beware, I'm not going to be so literal from no. 13 onwards.

Will conclude this by 3rd April, so keep 'em coming everyone.

GV

[Stephen Dunstan]

Now done.

Stephen.

...but Stephen, you have not proven so by Pming me your answers.....

It does appear that 3 is the hardest so far, though most people have got it. The single picture clues are always going to be the hardest, as no.6 is also proving.

There are now 30 people having a go - thanks all. Lots of different names are entering, so this is obviously appealing to a different type of quizzer.

Next ones up in a day or two, remember anyone can join in at any time, just answer the ones that have been posted at the time you join in.

Next few are quite easy methinks, but I have some much more subtle ones coming up, so beware, I'm not going to be so literal from no. 13 onwards.

Will conclude this by 3rd April, so keep 'em coming everyone.

GV

[Ghostly Vision]

G'mornin' quizzers. Want some more? Then you shall have.

Keep the answers coming - scores to date just before I post the next ones.

GV

[dantheman]

Cheers GV,

The real challenge is to try and id them from the thumbnails only. . . Unfortunately you end up squinting at some of the little pics in the vain hope you can resolve some details . . . I'm not quite that good or patient. . .

[Ghostly Vision]

Dan, Don't do it!! You're becoming the first Catchbird anorak!

You'll need more than a thumbnail for some of the beauties to come. I feel I have to respond to all you clever cloggs' who are getitng them all correct and complaining they are too easy. And if you get them I'm just going to make the bird names up!

GV

[Jos Stratford]

Is the gorky face someone famous?

[redeyedvideo]

Is the gorky face someone famous?

Yeh, used to be a big twitcher, just given it up I hear. :D


DJ

[turkish van]

Is the gorky face someone famous?

Comedian, I think... Lee something

Lee Evans? Possibly

PS I am planning on entering this eventually GV!

[Ghostly Vision]

Think he was in "there's something about Mary" with Ben Stiller and Cameron Diaz.

Oi you lot - no giving clues here. I couldn't find a picture of the REAL Lee Evans!

Turkish - you'll have to be quick; there's three more coming tomorrow. The faces on those will be slightly more famous than young Evans......

GV

[Xenospiza]

Oi you lot - no giving clues here. I couldn't find a picture of the REAL Lee Evans!
They tell me this is him: http://www.uk400clubonline.co.uk/image153.jpg

[turkish van]

They tell me this is him: http://www.uk400clubonline.co.uk/image153.jpg

Ahhh... that Lee Evans. I see now!

[Ghostly Vision]

Anyway, attached are the scores so far. Everyone is doing very well.

Answers explained:

1. Core-moor-ant = Cormorant
2. Arctic red pole = Arctic Redpoll
3. Mandarin
4. Wood sand-piper (Bilie Piper was the person)
5. Lapland bunting
6. Redhead
7. Caper-kale-Lee (Evans) = Capercaillie, or correctly spelt by Delia Capercailzie
8. Star-ling
9. Hen harrier

GV

[Ghostly Vision]

Here are no.s 10-12. Delia has already got one correct, as she is a moderator and is obviously psychic!

GV

[redeyedvideo]

Here are no.s 10-12. Delia has already got one correct, as she is a moderator and is obviously psychic!

GV

2 out of 3 from the thumbnails B (: Oh! to see the last one this spring....


DJ

[Harry Hussey]

Hi Seamus,
You had to reveal the answers for Nos. 7-9 before I had a chance to see them, didn't you...? :(
Harry
P.S. If I have no 12 right, why the need for that bloke's pic (whoever he may be)? Seems superfluous to the rest of the name....

[Ghostly Vision]

Ah, Harry - didn't think that not everyone had put in answers when revealed them. D'oh.

Well, to me the guy's face is essential for the whole name to work, unless you can correct me in a PM? I would never have known who he was!!!

Seamus

[Ghostly Vision]

Anyone up for 13-15?

Good luck

GV

I have only three more of these then I'll give the scores.

If anyone else wants to have a go at putting some together, I'd enjoy a go myself.

[Stephen Menzie]

If I have no 12 right, why the need for that bloke's pic (whoever he may be)? Seems superfluous to the rest of the name....

He (whoever he is) turns a noun into an adjective...

[Keith Dickinson]

13 seems to be unlucky for me.

[Sean F]

If anyone else wants to have a go at putting some together, I'd enjoy a go myself.

Here are a couple.

The second is ridiculously easy, these are just testers.
The first requires some creative thinking! (anyone whos seen the QI episode on TV with Rory McGrath might be able to get it)

[Ghostly Vision]

Sean, do you want people to PM you with answers so everyone can have a go? (Not that I have the first clue what they are yet).

Reference the latest pics, 13 is as expected proving difficult, but more people have got it correct than no. 15 at the moment.

Remember, if it doesn't sound quite right - it isn't.

Remember too, there is usually a reason for every picture, quite specifically in the case of 15.

Luckily there's only one more difficult one to go before I sign off.....


GV

[Phil Carter]

Don't suppose 13's a Speckled Hen is it?

Phil

[CornishExile]

Okay, please don't pm me, cos my inbox won't stand it... answers here on Monday. Two are (I reckon) dead straightforward. The first is maybe a little more oblique.

ce

[Ghostly Vision]

Nice and easy CE

Tilljoke
Blackberrycatfish
Rockgroupsh1t

Three points?

Ain't these hard when you don't know the answer? Seriously I only have the "turd" one, not a clue on the first two.

GV

[Xenospiza]

Don't suppose 13's a Speckled Hen is it?
I just thought like a tourist: imperial measurements and warm beer. Then the answer is easy!

[Phil Carter]

Okay, please don't pm me, cos my inbox won't stand it... answers here on Monday. Two are (I reckon) dead straightforward. The first is maybe a little more oblique.

ce
Got the second two and if the first one is what I think it is then "oblique" hardly covers it!

Phil

[Ghostly Vision]

I just thought like a tourist: imperial measurements and warm beer. Then the answer is easy!


Oi!! Giving clues isn't allowed! That one was my pride and joy!

How do you know your answer is correct??? ;)

GV

[Ghostly Vision]

Got the second two and if the first one is what I think it is then "oblique" hardly covers it!

Phil


Watch him CE, he's good at this, though he has been stumped on one of mine.....

GV

[Phil Carter]

Watch him CE, he's good at this, though he has been stumped on one of mine.....

GV

Well, I've gotta be good at something, notice my absence from most of the ID threads. Especially the ones about these new-fangled gulls that have been invented in the last few years!
Phil

[CornishExile]

and if the first one is what I think it is then "oblique" hardly covers it!

Phil

Thank you! I was rather proud of that one ;)

ce

[Ghostly Vision]

...And now Frecklez has told me, I can only add that under the strict rules of Catchbird (as invented by me ten seconds ago) it's not technically 100%; perhaps a letter "a" in the first picture? As for oblique it's probably about two louder than that!!! Especially like the use of the cartoon, though can't imagine what it says in the blanked out bit.

No 2 Comes under the same category, naughty.

3 is my favourite I have to say.

GV

[redeyedvideo]

Thank you! I was rather proud of that one ;)

ce

Or maybe you could have used a certain Simpson character & GV's no.1) but then that would be equally obscure. (o)<


Dave J

[redeyedvideo]

Here are a couple.

The second is ridiculously easy, these are just testers.
The first requires some creative thinking! (anyone whos seen the QI episode on TV with Rory McGrath might be able to get it)

I can think of 2 for no.1) One is found near water & the other in scrub in the Med. Got a feeling the first one's right tho!


DJ

[Blackstart]

I am fairly sure I have Sean F's and Cornish Exile's (at least 2 and 3), but given GV's comments about his last three offerings, I have lost confidence in my answers!

Here's three of my own...

Adam

[Xenospiza]

I can think of 2 for no.1) One is found near water & the other in scrub in the Med. Got a feeling the first one's right tho!
Hmmm... you can add a New Zealand wader and a tropical tern to the possible solutions.

[redeyedvideo]

Hmmm... you can add a New Zealand wader and a tropical tern to the possible solutions.


Wrybill.......


DJ

[the oilbird]

Recon i've got Cornish Exiles 3...

Playing catch up after GV's rather harsh marking!! haha

How about a bonus point for this....the fish photo....location = Isles of Scilly, Poll Bank 2 miles past Bishop Rock Lighthouse, boat = The Sappire, the arms = Joe Pender, the skipper, and the fish = a ****!!!!

[Sean F]

Sean, do you want people to PM you with answers so everyone can have a go? (Not that I have the first clue what they are yet).

Reference the latest pics, 13 is as expected proving difficult, but more people have got it correct than no. 15 at the moment.

Remember, if it doesn't sound quite right - it isn't.

Remember too, there is usually a reason for every picture, quite specifically in the case of 15.

Luckily there's only one more difficult one to go before I sign off.....


GV

Yeah PM me, answers on Saturday evening.

[redeyedvideo]

Here's three of my own...

Adam

Got 2 & 3 but still strugg ling with 1) ;)


DJ

[CornishExile]

...And now Frecklez has told me, I can only add that under the strict rules of Catchbird (as invented by me ten seconds ago) it's not technically 100%; perhaps a letter "a" in the first picture? As for oblique it's probably about two louder than that!!! Especially like the use of the cartoon, though can't imagine what it says in the blanked out bit.

No 2 Comes under the same category, naughty.

3 is my favourite I have to say.

GV

Guilty as charged, and I'll try to adhere to the new, strict rules of Catchbird... after this next one that occured to me this evening on the ferry home.

Seems a shame to waste it.

ce

ps - an "a" in the first one? So that would read "Jesus loves you... but I think you're a cat". Well, obviously!

[CornishExile]

How about a bonus point for this....the fish photo....location = Isles of Scilly, Poll Bank 2 miles past Bishop Rock Lighthouse, boat = The Sappire, the arms = Joe Pender, the skipper, and the fish = a ****!!!!

Yikes.

You're one or more of the following - a sea angler; sh#t hot with Google; a copyright lawyer.

I hope it's not the latter!

ce

[Ghostly Vision]

Either you guys are too subtle or I'm thick.

Think I'll go back to putting some of my own on here.....here are the final four.

Thanks to Stephen Dunstan for the idea for no.19 - genius!

[redeyedvideo]

No problem with 17,18 & 19 (te-he) but is there more to 16 than I'm seeing? I'd hate to fall down at this late stage. :eek!:


DJ


p.s. 17's a cracker too :clap:

[Andrew]

With not being able to crack the pint of ale pic, I give up as that is my 100% record gone!

I'll get me coat.

[Sean F]

As many people have got, the answers to mine were:

Bearded Tit (as coined by Rory McGrath when describing what he would call a TV show with himself and Bill Oddie in),

and;

Goosander

Thanks to all who answered.

[Blackstart]

As many people have got, the answers to mine were:

Bearded Tit (as coined by Rory McGrath when describing what he would call a TV show with himself and Bill Oddie in),

and;

Goosander

Thanks to all who answered.I thought Bill Oddie was a Dipper. Oh, well.

Answers to my three:

1. Batt + El + Lure = Bateleur
2. Grape + Lover = Grey Plover
3. Lon + Gear + Dowel = Long-eared Owl.

Adam

[Sean F]

I thought Bill Oddie was a Dipper. Oh, well.


Thats a good answer too! As was Xenospizas suggestion of Wrybill.

Here is another that is not quite so subjective.

(you can only look at each pic in turn)

You have to know about football to know who the person is I am afraid.

Another coming up.

[Sean F]

Another.

[Xenospiza]

Are these still birds? I would swear that Little Britain one is a Painted Lady...
Absolutely no clue on any...

[CornishExile]

My last one for a while...

(How to follow the inspired genius of Grape Lover? ;) )

ce

[Stephen Menzie]

Are these still birds? I would swear that Little Britain one is a Painted Lady...
Absolutely no clue on any...

All 5 are the same clue.

Lady... a.m.... and so on ;)

[CornishExile]

Okay, answers (though I suspect you all got them quickly anyway)...

Bar Till + God Wit = Bar-tailed Godwit
Bramble + Ling = Brambling
The Who + Poo = Hoopoe
Black Brow + Albert + Ross = Black-browed Albatross

and my favourite,

Fears Petrol = Fea's Petrel

That's all folks!

ce

[Ghostly Vision]

Okay, answers (though I suspect you all got them quickly anyway)...

Bar Till + God Wit = Bar-tailed Godwit
Bramble + Ling = Brambling
The Who + Poo = Hoopoe
Black Brow + Albert + Ross = Black-browed Albatross

and my favourite,

Fears Petrol = Fea's Petrel

That's all folks!

ce

I thought that was Eduard Munch's "Scream"?

Well, Cornish, the Norwegian Air seems to have got to you.....

Blackstart - fantastic, but I still have no idea how you worked out Bateleur?

And isn't that a Drumstick not a baton?

I'm just a simple guy me......

GV

:t:

[Harry Hussey]

Am I the only one who finds Sean F's pics impossible?
Harry

[Blackstart]

I thought that was Eduard Munch's "Scream"?

Well, Cornish, the Norwegian Air seems to have got to you.....

Blackstart - fantastic, but I still have no idea how you worked out Bateleur?

And isn't that a Drumstick not a baton?

I'm just a simple guy me......

GV

:t:Bateleur is from batt insulation, Chicago's elevated railway (known affectionately as the "El"), and a fishing lure (the easy one).

The "drumstick" is a French dowel rolling pin.

Never would have gotten CE's Fea's Petrel in a million years, though I did get the petrel part correct.

Cheers for the quiz and the opportunity for audience participation!

Adam

[Xenospiza]

Am I the only one who finds Sean F's pics impossible?
Not really – Blackstart's were (very good)!
The Lady... I saw when I knew it was just one bird (and not five) (any way, little choice left).
The other one is something ([easy bit of the clue])led, but who's the guy?

[redeyedvideo]

and my favourite,

Fears Petrol = Fea's Petrel

That's all folks!

ce


I hate to be pedantic but the pump is clearly labelled BP DERV, i.e. diesel and the picture shows Munch's the scream with the red sky of a storm created by a volcanic eruption or some other natural phenomenom at the time, so I'm having it as a very obscure British Storm Diesel, thanks. ;) More please.


DJ

[Sean F]

but who's the guy?

I may as well tell you, he's former Chelsea striker Eidur Gudjohnson.

Does that help?

Answers Wed evening.

[Ghostly Vision]

...See my forthcoming Catchbirds involving pictures of Richard Scimitar-babbler, Fred Kingfisher, Arthur Great northern diver and Fiona Bruce's Scops owl.

The answers to the last ones of mine will go up here tomorrow (Wednesday).


For future Catchbird setters, might I point out the rules of a pure and acceptable clue:

1. There must be no missing letters in the picture clues
2. Pictures must represent a word or part of a word either fully correctly, or at least phonetically correctly. For example, I wouldn't really accept "lure" for "leur" which is prnounced "lerr" not "lewer".
3. There must be no repeats of parts of words when two pictures are combined (e.g in the Goosander answer, we have goose - sander, which breaks this rule. It should have been Goo-sander or Goose-and-er etc)
4. Pictures must relate directly to the clue given within it; e.g. if we want to depict a lover, we should perhaps use Casanova, or Romeo/Juliet rather than someone who could be a character name, own name, something completely different). Otherwise I think they become too oblique.
5. If you find any of mine that do not conform to any or all of rules 1-4, there are no rules 1-4!

Now we have set the official rules, would anyone else like a quick go? I have been promised by one or two of you that you might.......

GV

[Blackstart]

Pictures must represent a word or part of a word either fully correctly, or at least phonetically correctly. For example, I wouldn't really accept "lure" for "leur" which is prnounced "lerr" not "lewer".And here I thought Bateleur rhymed with "masseur", which can be pronounced "ma-soor" where I come from (the United States).

I can assure you I won't try to come up with pictures to spell out Brünnich's Guillemot! :eek!:

Adam

[Ghostly Vision]

And here I thought Bateleur rhymed with "masseur", which can be pronounced "ma-soor" where I come from (the United States).

I can assure you I won't try to come up with pictures to spell out Brünnich's Guillemot! :eek!:

Adam



Hi Adam,

Well of course the two do rhyme, but in my phonetic rendition I was using the root French pronounciation, rather than an Anglicised one.

I'm such a pedant! Or is that peasant?

Didn't realise you were from the U.S.

GV

[Xenospiza]

I'm looking for two American birds (even though the guy is a Czech).

[Sean F]

My latest were:

Spectacle...L.E.D...Eidur - Spectacled Eider

Lady...a.m...Hurst...fez...ant - Lady Amhurst's Pheasant

Alright, I know they don't comply with the new rules!

I am now bowing out of the catchbird game with immediate affect! I can't think of any more!

[MSA]

I'm looking for two American birds (even though the guy is a Czech).

Second one has to be Roadrunner. Can't quite get my head around the first one yet...

[Blackstart]

Second one has to be Roadrunner. Can't quite get my head around the first one yet...The first one is deceptively clever. Excellent, Xenospiza!

But is White-rumped Zatopek on the American list?

Adam

[Ghostly Vision]

Very good Xeno - I am struggling though!!

Sean F - as far as I'm concerned yours are good enough under the rules - only a single missing "S".

Anyway, the answers to the outstanding ones are as follows:

10:Razorbill
11: House Martin
12: White throat-ed needle-tail
13:Pint-ale = Pintail
14:Sooty turn = Sooty tern
15:Egyptian night - jar. Sorry, no points for just Nighjar!! The night was definitely an Egyptian one!
16:Robin (Hood). Given that the film and the Actor were Amrican, A bonus point to anyone who gave American Robin as their answer
17:Cream-coloured corsa = CC courser
18: Dalmatian pelican (Crossing)
19: Stella-cider = Steller's eider. Magnificent, thanks Stephen D.

Rather than attach all the scores I can just say that I reckon six people managed 100% correct answers, with a few more on 17 or 18 out of 19. Most of those that had a go at some, not all, pictures, got most or all correct.

Well done everyone - I've really enjoyed this one.

I'm away for ten days from Tuesday 3rd, so I'll see you all back here after then, probably with some blurred pictures or crops from Kuwait!!

GV

[John Eaton]

I'm looking for two American birds (even though the guy is a Czech).

First one is Cardinal (Card in Al)

[redeyedvideo]

Well done everyone - I've really enjoyed this one.

I'm away for ten days from Tuesday 3rd, so I'll see you all back here after then, probably with some blurred pictures or crops from Kuwait!!

GV

Well done yourself Sean, I've thoroughly enjoyed my venture down to these parts after 2 years as a member and many more as a casual visitor. Enjoy Q8 and don't see too many....

Dave J

[Xenospiza]

I'll provide you with the answers:
1. (Northern) Cardinal (note the words on the card).
2. (Lesser) Roadrunner (Zatopek, arguably there is no greater (road)runner! Thought of that reasoning after I posted it though... so Greater would be defendable too).