Upton Warren

[andythomas]

The Christopher Cadbury Wetland Reserve is at Upton Warren, on the A38 between Bromsgrove and Droitwich. It is run by the Worcestershire Wildlife Trust (map reference SO936677).

The reserve is split into two sections. The northern part has two deep pools which are good for ducks and grebes. The surrounding reedbeds have breeding Reed and Sedge Warblers in the summer. The southern part has a shallow pool with islands which is good for waders. There are winter feeding stations in both parts of the reserve which attract finches and tits.

Personally I've seen a total of over 100 species at Upton Warren, and it was the first place that I saw Water Rail, Scaup, Wood Sandpiper, Temmincks Stint, Mediterranean Gull, Little Gull and Jack Snipe.

There are plenty of birds to see all year round. Some people prefer to visit in the winter when there are many different species of duck present. I prefer it in the spring when smaller numbers of duck are still present, but have been joined by the summer visitors such as warblers, or from July to September when passage migrants such as Dunlin and Green Sandpiper appear.

The reserve has an impressive list of rarities that have turned up over the years, partly due to the reserve's position on a migration route running between the Severn estuary and the Wash. Birds seen in 2003 have included Grasshopper Warbler, Black-necked Grebe, Little Egret, Red Kite, Sandwich Tern, Black Tern, Whimbrel and Sanderling.

A regular band of volunteers have worked hard to improve the reserve for wildlife. This has been particularly beneficial for breeding waders. The results of this were seen in 2003 when a pair of Avocets bred and raised four chicks, one of the first pairs ever to breed inland in the UK.

Location: On the A38 two miles north of junction 5, M5.

Access: Open to members of Worcestershire Wildlife Trust, or by permit. Permit available from wardens on site or the sailing centre. Adults £1. Trust membership from Lower Smite Farm, Smite Hill, Hindlip, Worcester WR3 8SZ. Telephone 01905 754919.

Resident: Great Crested Grebe, Little Grebe, Tufted Duck, Pochard, Gadwall, Shoveler, Teal, Lapwing, Grey Heron, Kingfisher, Reed Bunting, Water Rail.

April - September: Cuckoo, Reed Warbler, Sedge Warbler, Cettis Warbler, Redshank, Little Ringed Plover, Oystercatcher, Common Tern, Hobby. Passage waders, including Ringed Plover, Common Sandpiper, Green Sandpiper, Dunlin, Ruff, Greenshank.

October - March: Goldeneye, Snipe, Jack Snipe.

[midlands birder]

little egret still at upton warren today showing well on the moors anybody seen it recently,not much news else really

[Pam_m]

Hi Craig, good to see you have got this show on the road!:t: Bet the other thread goes dead quiet now!;)

Saw the Little Egret on the Moors Pools last Friday (31st july)! There for just a few minutes after we arrived...good to see!

[midlands birder]

Hi Craig, good to see you have got this show on the road!:t: Bet the other thread goes dead quiet now!;)

Saw the Little Egret on the Moors Pools last Friday (31st july)! There for just a few minutes after we arrived...good to see!

half the stuff is upton,but it will struggle through with max's brandon.this weekend i hope the bittern actually comes out for me,it wouldent even be a year tick but still great birds to see.some hot of the press news from upton.it may look a lot like the news reports from birding today but its not:smoke:
little egret still present late afternoon, plus Bittern preening on bush at 2.30pm and 2 Common Sandpipers. Also Whimbrel flew over the Flashes at 7.15pm, plus 15 Green Sandpipers and 2 Common Sandpipers.
by the way what bush does he mean,there are quite a few at upton:-O

[Pam_m]

half the stuff is upton,but it will struggle through with max's brandon.this weekend i hope the bittern actually comes out for me,it wouldent even be a year tick but still great birds to see.some hot of the press news from upton.it may look a lot like the news reports from birding today but its not:smoke:
little egret still present late afternoon, plus Bittern preening on bush at 2.30pm and 2 Common Sandpipers. Also Whimbrel flew over the Flashes at 7.15pm, plus 15 Green Sandpipers and 2 Common Sandpipers.
by the way what bush does he mean,there are quite a few at upton:-O

Come on, Craig! You know which bush, it's the one next to the tree!o:D:-O

[midlands birder]

Come on, Craig! You know which bush, it's the one next to the tree!o:D:-O

you mean the tree,next to the reed,next to the water,next to the coot,next to the b h gull,next to the egret,which is next to the wilsons phalarope:-O
MB

[Pam_m]

you mean the tree,next to the reed,next to the water,next to the coot,next to the b h gull,next to the egret,which is next to the wilsons phalarope:-O
MB

You wish!!!o:D

[midlands birder]

You wish!!!o:D

its happened twice before so why not again,and why not throw in a least sand for all the troubleo:D
MB

[upstarts1979]

For those interested in the habitat at upton warren.

At the Flashes the sluice pipe has been open for two days now and the water level has dropped by 6cm (2.5 inches for us older ones). This is to provide ideal muddy conditions for passage waders and roosting gulls that like to be out of the water at this time. The reason for being a bit cautious with the water levels this year was the predicted hot weather that would have rendered the 2nd flash high and dry.

At the Hen pool an area of reeds has been cut down. this gives the opportunity to see reed, cettis and sedge warbler at close range. When entering the hide be very quiet as the door and flaps are a bit creeky, give it a bit of time and the birds should show. Hopefully water rail will also show. The bittern has been seen and wishful thinking will bring a spotted crake.

At the moors (Amy's Marsh) viewed from the Lapwing hide the nearest large vegetated island will be cut back in the next week or so to provide wader habitat and views of the muddy margins.

I will keep you posted on any other habitat creation or events
cheers John

[upstarts1979]

The Birds of Upton Warren. There has been over 230 species recorded in the last 40 years.

If you visit the Worcester birding site and go into the birders list you will see individuals lists many of which are for upton warren. If you wish to include your list email Brian Stretch for inclusion. Its all good fun and you will be surprised how many species you can accumulate in a couple of years. There are on average 150 species recorded annually.

[Pam_m]

Thanks for all the information, John! Good to read about what is happening/or going to, at Upton Warren!:t:

[Duck_Pond]

Cheers for the info John - good to hear that the hen pool has been cut back a bit, as that again is good for photos from - it was where I got a close shot of a reed warbler a couple of years ago, as seen in the Trust Calendar last year. Are there any records of a spotted crake ever?

[midlands birder]

The Birds of Upton Warren. There has been over 230 species recorded in the last 40 years.

If you visit the Worcester birding site and go into the birders list you will see individuals lists many of which are for upton warren. If you wish to include your list email Brian Stretch for inclusion. Its all good fun and you will be surprised how many species you can accumulate in a couple of years. There are on average 150 species recorded annually.

the upton list stands at 235 species as of 1st jan 08 but i thinks there has been another adition to the list recently(hawfinch).i have been birding the site for just over a year(4 days over) and have got 118 species on the list,this includes the little egret and such great county birds as red necked phalarope,sanderling,garganey and white fronted goose and many other lifers for me.joining the list is great fun even though i am at the bottom of the list :-O,but i have only been birding there for a year while other listers have been watching for years and years;)

[upstarts1979]

Hi Duck Pond more wishful thinking.
But there are four records for the reserve
Sept 1981 at the north moors
oct 1994 at the sluice area at the moors after the area was cleared
july 1999 at the flashes to right of main hide
aug 2001 in front of the concrete hide again just days after it had been cleared

So anytime from August to October it is worth looking in the quiet reed fringed areas, preferably where there are no moorhens which always chase water rails let alone spotted crake. At the moment the best habitat is in front of the concrete hide (hopefully the kingfisher photographers will come across one) Hen Pool and the reeds around the 2nd Flash and also in front of the 1st Flash hide
Patience is the name of the game and mornings and evenings are best they are pretty rapid when moving in the open. Obvious pitfalls are juveniles water rail which always show a long bill as opposed to the short one of spotted crakes. You usually need several views to be 100% as above the colours are similar apart from white edging to coverts and scapulars. If you do see a water rail type bird with a yellowish short triangular bill make others aware no one will criticise you for that. More pairs of eyes makes it easier.
Good hunting
Cheers John

[midlands birder]

Cheers for the info John - good to hear that the hen pool has been cut back a bit, as that again is good for photos from - it was where I got a close shot of a reed warbler a couple of years ago, as seen in the Trust Calendar last year. Are there any records of a spotted crake ever?

yes 4 records,one presant on the north moors from 1st-19th september 1981,one presant from 8th-13th october 94 near the sluice at the moors,an adult presant on the 13th july 99 to the right of the main flashes hide,and finally one on the 14th august 01 at the moors in front of the concrete hide(water rail).one wonders how many have passed through undetected,at the moment it would be good to look for bittern in the hen pool as its usually to overgrown to see out the hide,so it may lead to a few more bitterns there this winter(they proberbly already go there but you cant see them).
please keep us updated with the work going on at upton john im sure we all would like to know.
MB
looks like you beat me to it john :-O.most of the records show from areas that have been recently cleared so it could happen:t: but it is a long shot.

[Duck_Pond]

Cheers John (and MB). I've found that poor weather conditions seem to encourage the shy birds out, such as bitterns and water rail. Especially fog, but of course that limits photography somewhat!

Hope the bittern stays put for the rest of the year. Would be a great addition to the reserve, hopefully resulting in more memberships per annum.

[midlands birder]

Cheers John (and MB). I've found that poor weather conditions seem to encourage the shy birds out, such as bitterns and water rail. Especially fog, but of course that limits photography somewhat!

Hope the bittern stays put for the rest of the year. Would be a great addition to the reserve, hopefully resulting in more memberships per annum.

of cause it will be there,its been wintering since 2003 :-O(the hen pool bird was the returning pale bird).unless they have a sudden urge to start wintering at ladywalk again :-C.apparently uptons been nicking there bitterns:t:
MB

[upstarts1979]

The first phase of the work at Amy's marsh has been completed. The East island has been cleared ready for passage waders.
At the Flashes the water level is dropping gradually (sluice controlled) and exposing more wet mud at the same time offering more feeding for long billed feeders such as snipe 6 and Dunlin 3 (6th Aug). The shallows are attracting dabbling ducks with increasing numbers of Teal and shoveler amongst the Mallard. The previously muddy areas will dry out and provide food for surface feeders as they are at present for 175 Lapwing(6th Aug) and common sandpiper (5 on 6th Aug). The areas in between are occupied by 14 Green Sandpipers. As the season proggresses more passage waders will appear hopefully appear. The muddy edges of the 2nd Flash in front of the reeds are enticing up to 3 juvenile water rail into the open. The night time roost at the Flashes is building up with 1100 BHGulls and 40 Curlew and a noisey gathering of up to 33 common terns including many of our own bred juveniles.

The next 4 weeks or so are the best for passage birds especially waders so try and make regular visits if you can especially if there is in-clement weather.

Remember to contact Brian Stretch at Worcester Birding if you find something of interset (also keep up to date with midlands birds by subscribing to his site)
Regards John

[midlands birder]

The first phase of the work at Amy's marsh has been completed. The East island has been cleared ready for passage waders.
At the Flashes the water level is dropping gradually (sluice controlled) and exposing more wet mud at the same time offering more feeding for long billed feeders such as snipe 6 and Dunlin 3 (6th Aug). The shallows are attracting dabbling ducks with increasing numbers of Teal and shoveler amongst the Mallard. The previously muddy areas will dry out and provide food for surface feeders as they are at present for 175 Lapwing(6th Aug) and common sandpiper (5 on 6th Aug). The areas in between are occupied by 14 Green Sandpipers. As the season proggresses more passage waders will appear hopefully appear. The muddy edges of the 2nd Flash in front of the reeds are enticing up to 3 juvenile water rail into the open. The night time roost at the Flashes is building up with 1100 BHGulls and 40 Curlew and a noisey gathering of up to 33 common terns including many of our own bred juveniles.

The next 4 weeks or so are the best for passage birds especially waders so try and make regular visits if you can especially if there is in-clement weather.

Remember to contact Brian Stretch at Worcester Birding if you find something of interset (also keep up to date with midlands birds by subscribing to his site)
Regards John

thanks for this news,im glad the east islands have been cleared,it will be better to see stuff tomorow when im at upton:t:,hope some good waders are down.how long has the 33 common terns been hanging around.thats how many i counted last saturday.glad to hear the snipe are back,its quite fun trying to count them,i said trying:-O
MB

[Pam_m]

Thanks for the update, John! Interesting developments, especially with the juvenile Water Rails!

Enjoy your day at Upton tomorrow, Craig! Might be there myself on Sunday.

[upstarts1979]

The 33 terns were just those roosting at the flashes since Tuesday . This does not include the freshly hatched chicks and parents from the floating nest and also the chicks and parents of the nearly fledged chicks on the vegetated islands. If you and Pam can count both lots and enter the figures in the log books I would appreciate that. I would guess poss 40+ in total.
cheers John

[POP]

John I hope you are still keeping notes.(remember)
POP

[upstarts1979]

John I hope you are still keeping notes.(remember)
POP

there is only one person that used to say that to me. and could it be you JOHN from all those years ago in my twitching days. If so you must be a 100 now (only joking lets call it 99)

[POP]

there is only one person that used to say that to me. and could it be you JOHN from all those years ago in my twitching days. If so you must be a 100 now (only joking lets call it 99)

Spot on the money John and waiting for the Queens telegram,great to know you are still the "King" of Upton Warren.(john)

POP (nome de plume for an idiot) will have to come and check the notebooks one day.

[upstarts1979]

Spot on the money John and waiting for the Queens telegram,great to know you are still the "King" of Upton Warren.(john)

POP (nome de plume for an idiot) will have to come and check the notebooks one day.

Hi John your one of my heroes of those days was always nice to have the banter with you. What are you up to these days. Would be nice to get a good bird at Upton for an old time reunion. Do you still Paul Powell etc
John

[POP]

John yes still see Paul and others in the gang.Am trying to send you EMail but its hold up at the moment

John

[Emma]

Hope nobody minds but I have combined my Worcs sightings for today in one post as we visited both Lower Smite farm and Upton Warren today!

Visited Lower Smite Farm this morning and although it was quiet birdwise it was busy butterfly wise!! Had good views of a Common Buzzard and Sparrowhawk over the fields together with a Juvenile Swallow who seemed to be quite content enjoying the sunshine on the telegraph wire! Butterflies seen were Holly Blue, Gatekeeper, Peacock, Painted Lady, Meadow Brown, Speckled Wood, Large & Small White and Small Copper!

Managed to see the Juv Wood Sandpiper at the Flashes this afternoon, typically it stayed right at the back of the pool together with a Dunlin, 8+ Green Sandpipers, Common Sandpipers, Curlews, BH Gulls and Grey Heron. It was nice to see Common Snipe back at the Flashes this afternoon! A record pic of the Wood Sandpiper is attached!

[midlands birder]

Hope nobody minds but I have combined my Worcs sightings for today in one post as we visited both Lower Smite farm and Upton Warren today!

Visited Lower Smite Farm this morning and although it was quiet birdwise it was busy butterfly wise!! Had good views of a Common Buzzard and Sparrowhawk over the fields together with a Juvenile Swallow who seemed to be quite content enjoying the sunshine on the telegraph wire! Butterflies seen were Holly Blue, Gatekeeper, Peacock, Painted Lady, Meadow Brown, Speckled Wood, Large & Small White and Small Copper!

Managed to see the Juv Wood Sandpiper at the Flashes this afternoon, typically it stayed right at the back of the pool together with a Dunlin, 8+ Green Sandpipers, Common Sandpipers, Curlews, BH Gulls and Grey Heron. It was nice to see Common Snipe back at the Flashes this afternoon! A record pic of the Wood Sandpiper is attached!


well done with the wood sand, i saw him too on saturday,and as you said at the back of the flash,can i keep a copy of your pic just for a reminder of it,my shot is absolutly screwed.aslo a dunlin(juv) hung around with the woodie at the back of the flash,aslo noted was a male sparrowhawk on the fence posts at the back,3 shoveler,28c teal,10 green sand,3 common sand,37 curlew,4 snipe,16 comon tern,3 cettis warbler(hen pool,no bittern but a few water rail calling.a hobby also flew over and looked to be carrying prey(swift/swallow).it was beeting very rapidly and was almost passed off as a pigeon.didnt visit the moors,hope i didnt miss anything.
MB

[Emma]

well done with the wood sand, i saw him too on saturday,and as you said at the back of the flash,can i keep a copy of your pic just for a reminder of it,my shot is absolutly screwed.aslo a dunlin(juv) hung around with the woodie at the back of the flash,aslo noted was a male sparrowhawk on the fence posts at the back,3 shoveler,28c teal,10 green sand,3 common sand,37 curlew,4 snipe,16 comon tern,3 cettis warbler(hen pool,no bittern but a few water rail calling.a hobby also flew over and looked to be carrying prey(swift/swallow).it was beeting very rapidly and was almost passed off as a pigeon.didnt visit the moors,hope i didnt miss anything.
MB


Looks like the Wood Sandpiper was still at Upton today so hopefully it will stick around for the weekend and grace us with its presence closer to the hide!! Of course you can keep a copy of my pic Craig, it isn't the best of pics but like you said it is nice to keep as a record of seeing the bird!!

[Pam_m]

:CLooks like the Wood Sandpiper was still at Upton today so hopefully it will stick around for the weekend and grace us with its presence closer to the hide!! Of course you can keep a copy of my pic Craig, it isn't the best of pics but like you said it is nice to keep as a record of seeing the bird!!

It would be good to see it closer, Emma, so hopefully it will stay awhile! :t:

I also hope there are not 4 tripods with scopes and camera atop straddling the bench in the hide like last Sunday, thus giving no room for those who wish to sit! I thought the benches were for bums not tripods!!:C

[midlands birder]

:C

It would be good to see it closer, Emma, so hopefully it will stay awhile! :t:

I also hope there are not 4 tripods with scopes and camera atop straddling the bench in the hide like last Sunday, thus giving no room for those who wish to sit! I thought the benches were for bums not tripods!!:C

well its there today too,so only 4 more days untill i can see it again,and it looks as if 2 black-tailed godwits were reported last night at the flashes.im afraid to say i sometimes do put my tripod over the bench but move it to the back of the hide when the hide becomes crowded.
MB

[Pam_m]

well its there today too,so only 4 more days untill i can see it again,and it looks as if 2 black-tailed godwits were reported last night at the flashes.im afraid to say i sometimes do put my tripod over the bench but move it to the back of the hide when the hide becomes crowded.MB

I think we have all been there and done that at times, Craig! As you say..move it to the back of the hide when the hide is busy! A pity everyone doesn't have the etiquette to do the same!

Great with the reported B T Godwits!:t:

[midlands birder]

just keeping the readers informed and having a bit of banter along the way:-O

[Pam_m]

just keeping the readers informed and having a bit of banter along the way:-O

Ooh, is that a new type of sandwich?o:D

[midlands birder]

Ooh, is that a new type of sandwich?o:D

yes its avaliable at little chef,insted of the pancake:-O ;)
(for people who have no idea whats going on check out the warks/west mids local patch fourum)

[KayD]

Nice to see you on Sunday Pam and Emma. We got the Wood Sand no probs and the hide had emptied out somewhat by the time we got there :t:

[Pam_m]

yes its avaliable at little chef,insted of the pancake:-O ;)(for people who have no idea whats going on check out the warks/west mids local patch fourum)

I must remember to drop in and order one the next time I am in Hagley then, Craig!o:D

Nice to see you on Sunday Pam and Emma. We got the Wood Sand no probs and the hide had emptied out somewhat by the time we got there :t:

Good to see yourself and Max, Kay! :t: A neat little bird the Wood Sand isn't it! Hard to choose which Sandpiper is my favourite with so many varieties present at Upton! Sounds as though you were lucky and managed a seat then!;)

[StarainBoy]

A big vote for the Woodie on my blog for me! And I finished with I stopped at the Cuckoo Hide on the way out and got my reward in a snake swimming towards me. Lord knows what it was but it had an orange nape. That should nail it for someone out there.

Any ideas?

[midlands birder]

A big vote for the Woodie on my blog for me! And I finished with

Any ideas?

no ideas:eek!:,i dont think any native snakes have orange napes,but i may be wrong
any ideas anyone?
MB

[Pam_m]

I reckon it was possibly a Grass snake! I would love to see one!


Grass snakes have a characteristic orange or yellow collar around their necks. Their undersides are lighter in colour.
http://www.animalcorner.co.uk/britishwildlife/britsnakes.html

[StarainBoy]

I reckon it was possibly a Grass snake! I would love to see one!


Grass snakes have a characteristic orange or yellow collar around their necks. Their undersides are lighter in colour.
http://www.animalcorner.co.uk/britishwildlife/britsnakes.html

Thank you, thank you. Dave thought it was probably grass snake too.

[midlands birder]

I reckon it was possibly a Grass snake! I would love to see one!


Grass snakes have a characteristic orange or yellow collar around their necks. Their undersides are lighter in colour.
http://www.animalcorner.co.uk/britishwildlife/britsnakes.html

well what do i know.i'm only good at birds!!;)

[Duck_Pond]

Loads of grass snakes at UW - I photographed this one last year, at the North Moors. The band on the neck really stands out in some lights.

[midlands birder]

Loads of grass snakes at UW - I photographed this one last year, at the North Moors. The band on the neck really stands out in some lights.

wow amazing pic duck pond:t:,still on my something to see at upton list is grass snake:eek!:

[midlands birder]

uptons going through a bit of a purple patch at the moment.quite a lot of good stuff been reported,hope it carrys for a few more days.
MB

[upstarts1979]

A good evening at the Flashes The BHG roost was about 800, also 11 Common Tern. On the wader front more interesting with Black Tailed Godwit, 8 Snipe, 5 common Sands, Wood Sand (6th Day), and an obvious passage of Green Sands with 21 (mostly juveniles) constantly calling 4 flew off south this almost doubled the total of the previous day. Over the years this species used to reach mid 20's when many adults would have a partial wing moult these would then be joined by juveniles. However this year many of the adults have moved on so the majority of birds are Juveniles its a pity the adults didn't because we could have witnessed record numbers. Although its nice to know one species of wader has had a good breeding season.
The Teal are also increasing now at 40 (always worth looking for Garganey amongst the flock).

[upstarts1979]

Oh and I forgot to mention a small amount of passerine movement over the last couple of days included 2 Redstarts, 2 Spotted Flycatcher, and single Whinchat and yellow wag
cheers John

[midlands birder]

A good evening at the Flashes The BHG roost was about 800, also 11 Common Tern. On the wader front more interesting with Black Tailed Godwit, 8 Snipe, 5 common Sands, Wood Sand (6th Day), and an obvious passage of Green Sands with 21 (mostly juveniles) constantly calling 4 flew off south this almost doubled the total of the previous day. Over the years this species used to reach mid 20's when many adults would have a partial wing moult these would then be joined by juveniles. However this year many of the adults have moved on so the majority of birds are Juveniles its a pity the adults didn't because we could have witnessed record numbers. Although its nice to know one species of wader has had a good breeding season.
The Teal are also increasing now at 40 (always worth looking for Garganey amongst the flock).

Oh and I forgot to mention a small amount of passerine movement over the last couple of days included 2 Redstarts, 2 Spotted Flycatcher, and single Whinchat and yellow wag
cheers John

just what i was going on about john;),some very good birds there:t:,lets hope it continues for the weekend:t:

[midlands birder]

wood sand and black tailed godwit just reported on birdguides at the flashes

[Duck_Pond]

Hope they stay put for the weekend... I'm planning to stay local for a change! :)

[midlands birder]

Hope they stay put for the weekend... I'm planning to stay local for a change! :)

hope they do stay:t:,might see you there if you come saturday evening:eek!:

[Duck_Pond]

Spotted crake at the Moors today. Seen from the West Hide initially, then later from the Water Rail hide. Hope it stays around for tomorrow - I know Kay would love to see it.

Going through my pics of it now.

Added one now - will add more to my gallery tomorrow.

[upstarts1979]

Hi Duck Pond more wishful thinking.
But there are four records for the reserve
Sept 1981 at the north moors
oct 1994 at the sluice area at the moors after the area was cleared
july 1999 at the flashes to right of main hide
aug 2001 in front of the concrete hide again just days after it had been cleared

So anytime from August to October it is worth looking in the quiet reed fringed areas, preferably where there are no moorhens which always chase water rails let alone spotted crake. At the moment the best habitat is in front of the concrete hide (hopefully the kingfisher photographers will come across one) Hen Pool and the reeds around the 2nd Flash and also in front of the 1st Flash hide
Patience is the name of the game and mornings and evenings are best they are pretty rapid when moving in the open. Obvious pitfalls are juveniles water rail which always show a long bill as opposed to the short one of spotted crakes. You usually need several views to be 100% as above the colours are similar apart from white edging to coverts and scapulars. If you do see a water rail type bird with a yellowish short triangular bill make others aware no one will criticise you for that. More pairs of eyes makes it easier.
Good hunting
Cheers John

Hi Duck Pond
Nice pic. The story behind todays bird was two birders were unsure of its ID and told one of the regulars (Terry Norledge) who ID 'd it for them. It also appeared this evening in front of the concrete hide
cheers John

[Duck_Pond]

Hi John

(It's Pete, btw) - We watched it initially from the West Hide, then someone called to say it was visible from the Water Rail (concrete) hide, so we all scuttled over there... but the light was poor.

I left just after 6pm when it was still pottering about on the fringe of the cut-back reeds.

[upstarts1979]

Now that the breeding season is almost finished apart from fresh moorhen and duck species, we can look at the success or otherwise. All the surveys are not yet complete but amongst the more conspicuous species the toals are as follows:-
Waders
Avocet - 10 adults were present 4 breeding pairs laid eggs but only one clutch hatched - (4 chicks) three of which fledged.
Redshank- 2 pairs one incubated for almost the full term but no chicks were seen. Lapwing - 4 pairs incubated two lots of chicks hatched BUT just one chick fledged
Oystercatcher - 2 pairs successfully raised 3 chicks between them
LRP - 4 pairs laid eggs and two clutches hatched but none fledged
Waders all over the country can have great breeding success one year then in the same habitat another year can comletely fail. At Upton this year predation of eggs was a factor. But Lapwing, Oystercatcher, Avocet and LRP all lost chicks
Gulls and Terns
Some would say that Black Headed Gulls are a nest predator But this year there was no evidence of this.
BHG - This species has only been breeding on the reserve for three years. This year the 2 colonies totalled 40 pairs wth many non-breeders in tow. They raised 45+ chicks.
The knock on effect of this increase in the BHG's is the increased protection for other species against both mammalian and avian predators. Common Tern have had the most benefit so much so that this year at least 7 pairs raised 12 chicks between them.
As and when the results come in I will inform you
cheers John

[senatore]

Spotted crake at the Moors today. Seen from the West Hide initially, then later from the Water Rail hide. Hope it stays around for tomorrow - I know Kay would love to see it.

Going through my pics of it now.

Added one now - will add more to my gallery tomorrow.

Well done Pete.

Max

[StarainBoy]

Avocet - 10 adults were present 4 breeding pairs laid eggs but only one clutch hatched - (4 chicks) three of which fledged.
Redshank- 2 pairs one incubated for almost the full term but no chicks were seen. Lapwing - 4 pairs incubated two lots of chicks hatched BUT just one chick fledged
Oystercatcher - 2 pairs successfully raised 3 chicks between them
LRP - 4 pairs laid eggs and two clutches hatched but none fledged
Waders all over the country can have great breeding success one year then in the same habitat another year can comletely fail. At Upton this year predation of eggs was a factor. But Lapwing, Oystercatcher, Avocet and LRP all lost chicks

Useful information (if a bit depressing). Thanks.

[midlands birder]

Spotted crake at the Moors today. Seen from the West Hide initially, then later from the Water Rail hide. Hope it stays around for tomorrow - I know Kay would love to see it.

Going through my pics of it now.

Added one now - will add more to my gallery tomorrow.

a little beauty wasent it,it was from the concret(spider) hide that me and my dad watched it from,it shown well for a bit but then dissapeared,i didnt get any photos as every time a locked onto the bird someone got in the way.i wouldlike tosk for a copy for memories and my blog(credited in your name) but is this asking too much.looks as if you left as i was there,were you the person that was coming out of the hide and a teenager asked if you had any good photos,if so that was me.this whole borrowing photos is becoming for to often for my liking.:smoke:
any way other birds seen were water rail(and at the flashes) the wood sand :t:was still there as was the black tailed godwit giving stunning views,42 curlew,9 snipe,10c green sand,4 common sand,800+ b h gull in the roost,400+ canadian geese over(and i mean at least,huge amounts toninght) and posibly better than the wood sand an adult 'not so' common gull,will add photos here later after ive uploaded them.
im suprised nobody has alredy mentioned this but what about that montys harrier that flew over the flashes:eek!:.as i said on friday,upton is going through a purple patch.
no sign of spotted crake today
MB

[upstarts1979]

High MB
I don't mention any recent news as Worcester Birding is the news service for us all. But now you have mentioned it yes a very albeit brief bird on Saturday morning that was my 19th consecutive early start on a Saturday since April. Like the early bird catches the worm the early 'birder' catches the bird.
cheers John

[midlands birder]

High MB
I don't mention any recent news as Worcester Birding is the news service for us all. But now you have mentioned it yes a very albeit brief bird on Saturday morning that was my 19th consecutive early start on a Saturday since April. Like the early bird catches the worm the early 'birder' catches the bird.
cheers John

and the late birder catches the spotted crake;)
MB
SO was it you who saw it must have been an amazing bird.
i find it funny only a couple of weeks ago we were saying a spot crake could turn up and it did so,the water leval at the flashes looks good for a least sandpiper dont it.
pss.did you see the common gull

[Emma]

Spotted crake at the Moors today. Seen from the West Hide initially, then later from the Water Rail hide. Hope it stays around for tomorrow - I know Kay would love to see it.

Going through my pics of it now.

Added one now - will add more to my gallery tomorrow.

Super shot of the Spotted Crake Pete:t:...you always seem to be in the right place at the right time!!!

Went to Upton Warren this afternoon, we visited the Flashes first and managed to see the Wood Sandpiper (which was still at the back of the pool!! :C), the lone Dunlin, the lone Black Tailed Godwit, 20+ Curlew, 2 Common Snipe and Green & Common Sandpipers...they seemed to be everywhere today!!!

Surprisingly the Moors car park was near enough empty when we arrived apart from 3 cars which was a bit of a shocker after yesterdays find! We had the spider/concrete hide to ourselves and managed to see a Juv Water Rail that was quite happily fishing on the edge of the reed bed in open water and we also managed to see the Little Egret having a good old preen in the lovely sunshine!!

Visiting Upton was a lovely end to a super weekend for us!!!!:D

[midlands birder]

Super shot of the Spotted Crake Pete:t:...you always seem to be in the right place at the right time!!!

Went to Upton Warren this afternoon, we visited the Flashes first and managed to see the Wood Sandpiper (which was still at the back of the pool!! :C), the lone Dunlin, the lone Black Tailed Godwit, 20+ Curlew, 2 Common Snipe and Green & Common Sandpipers...they seemed to be everywhere today!!!

Surprisingly the Moors car park was near enough empty when we arrived apart from 3 cars which was a bit of a shocker after yesterdays find! We had the spider/concrete hide to ourselves and managed to see a Juv Water Rail that was quite happily fishing on the edge of the reed bed in open water and we also managed to see the Little Egret having a good old preen in the lovely sunshine!!

Visiting Upton was a lovely end to a super weekend for us!!!!:D

he better not have been there saturday,cause i didnt see him:-C,but the spotted crake was amazingo:D.glad you saw the egret,it was there too but despite searching it didnt show.nice photos,i love the juv water rail
MB
MB

[Duck_Pond]

Not sure if I saw you MB - I raced over from the Flashes, straight to the West Hide (stilts) to get it initially. Then someone called to say it was visible from the Water Rail hide, so we legged it over there.

I stayed until about 6:15pm, but it was getting a bit dark for shots then. You can normally spot me as I wear a stupid floppy green hat (North Face).

I spent most of this afternoon at the Hen Pool again, watching reed warblers and a pair of juv water rails.

Oh, and you can use any of my shots, as long as you credit me for them. :t:

[midlands birder]

Not sure if I saw you MB - I raced over from the Flashes, straight to the West Hide (stilts) to get it initially. Then someone called to say it was visible from the Water Rail hide, so we legged it over there.

I stayed until about 6:15pm, but it was getting a bit dark for shots then. You can normally spot me as I wear a stupid floppy green hat (North Face).

I spent most of this afternoon at the Hen Pool again, watching reed warblers and a pair of juv water rails.

Oh, and you can use any of my shots, as long as you credit me for them. :t:

thanks for letting me use your images pete:t:,much better than any i can get with my camera.:-Owere you at the moors at 6:15 as this is when i left the water rail hide after not seeing the bird for about 20 mins(but it might have been showing there was a lot of people in there).i wondered wether to pop into the hen pool hide(for bittern) but i said carry on,but i was a bit anxious as the last time i said this a bittern was being watched as we walked past.:-C

[Pam_m]

High MB
I don't mention any recent news as Worcester Birding is the news service for us all. But now you have mentioned it yes a very albeit brief bird on Saturday morning that was my 19th consecutive early start on a Saturday since April. Like the early bird catches the worm the early 'birder' catches the bird.
cheers John

Well done with the M Harrier, John! Nowt wrong with your sketch in the log book either!o:D

A great pic of the Spotted Crake, Pete!:t:

Well done with your juv Water Rail pic, Emma!:t: Mine are just a blur!o:D

[Duck_Pond]

Thanks Pam. My gallery has been updated now with the rest of the shots of the spotted crake.

[Pam_m]

Thanks Pam. My gallery has been updated now with the rest of the shots of the spotted crake.

Very good they are too, Pete! Well done!:t:

I have to say I was very surprised that the Moors Pools were so quiet, I almost didn't bother going there thinking it would be heaving with the news of a Spotted Crake! If it hadn't been for seeing what produce was being sold at 'Lifestyles' I probably wouldn't have ventured there as parking is at such a premium.

[Brian Stretch]

Gallery now online here: http://www.worcesterbirding.co.uk/spotted_crake_upton_warren_69.html

Brian
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[Pam_m]

Gallery now online here: http://www.worcesterbirding.co.uk/spotted_crake_upton_warren_69.html

Brian
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Thanks for the link, Brian!:t:

Luckily there were a few photographers around to see the Spotted Crake! All great photo's too!

I am still bemused as to how quiet it was at the Moors Pools after the Spotted Crake had been reported the day before. Weird!

[Duck_Pond]

I think it was from the reports that it hadn't been seen after 7:20pm that put folks off. And with no sign from those early risers either, people probably assumed it had gone.

Maybe everyone had the same thought as you though - I admit, I didn't go to the Moors because I thought it would be rammed, so went to the other side instead.

[Pam_m]

I think it was from the reports that it hadn't been seen after 7:20pm that put folks off. And with no sign from those early risers either, people probably assumed it had gone.
Maybe everyone had the same thought as you though - I admit, I didn't go to the Moors because I thought it would be rammed, so went to the other side instead.

Mmm, you may be right, Pete. Yet when some will sit for hours waiting for a Kingfisher it just seemed spookily quiet there! Whatever, you were all very lucky being in the right place at the right time!

[Emma]

For those interested in the habitat at upton warren.

.............and wishful thinking will bring a spotted crake.



Looks like the wishful thinking came true John!! Been looking at the photographs of the Spotted Crake and can't seem to get my bearings of which hide they were taken from as I can't recall seeing any muddy areas in front of the concrete hide, so could someone confirm which hide the pics were taken from please?

[midlands birder]

Looks like the wishful thinking came true John!! Been looking at the photographs of the Spotted Crake and can't seem to get my bearings of which hide they were taken from as I can't recall seeing any muddy areas in front of the concrete hide, so could someone confirm which hide the pics were taken from please?

the photos were taken from both 'west' hides.from the concrete hide if you look right there is some reed stubble:-O and this is where i saw him.it looks newly cut and is quite marshy.by the looks of it petes photo(and corrrect me if im wrong) looks to have been around the feeder area where it was initially found,hope this helps.
MB

[midlands birder]

bittern again at moors today

[Duck_Pond]

All my shots are from the West Hide (on stilts) - what's the new name for this one?

My shots from the Water Rail hide were blurred and a bit distant to bother processing.

[midlands birder]

All my shots are from the West Hide (on stilts) - what's the new name for this one?
My shots from the Water Rail hide were blurred and a bit distant to bother processing.

bittern hide:t:,i still call it the feeder/west hide:eek!:
MB

[KayD]

Spotted crake at the Moors today. Seen from the West Hide initially, then later from the Water Rail hide. Hope it stays around for tomorrow - I know Kay would love to see it.

Going through my pics of it now.

Added one now - will add more to my gallery tomorrow.


Great pics Pete, well done :t:

Thanks for the text and the mention, unfortunately I couldn't make it there Saturday evening, but nevermind, I did see one at Coombe Meadows two years ago.

[Emma]

All my shots are from the West Hide (on stilts) - what's the new name for this one?

My shots from the Water Rail hide were blurred and a bit distant to bother processing.


Thanks for the info Pete, sounds like it was a very mobile bird!!!

[KayD]

High MB
I don't mention any recent news as Worcester Birding is the news service for us all. But now you have mentioned it yes a very albeit brief bird on Saturday morning that was my 19th consecutive early start on a Saturday since April. Like the early bird catches the worm the early 'birder' catches the bird.
cheers John


Surely an Upton Warren thread is a good place to mention Upton Warren specific news, no matter what bird news services folk subscribe to? :t:

[midlands birder]

Surely an Upton Warren thread is a good place to mention Upton Warren specific news, no matter what bird news services folk subscribe to? :t:

i second this,i always like to hear about recent news:t:o:D

[upstarts1979]

OK then
News from Saturday 15th Aug 2009
The Flashes (highlights) 5.40am - 11am
Montagu's Harrier seen briefly at 7.40am
Hobby
Teal 47, Shoveler 19, Mallard 415
Wood Sandpiper, Green Sandpiper 16, Common Sand 4, Snipe 8, Curlew 30, Black Tailed Godwit, Lapwing 185,
Raven 3, Yellow Wag, Grey Wag juv, Goldfinch 80+, House Martin 80-100
Water Rail 3 (2 adults + juv), Stock Dove c35
please add your sightings in the hide log books plus counts of individual species which helps when compiling the annual report, it also makes it more interesting at migration times as species build up or move out.
At the Moors
Spotted Crake and Little Egret
My next prediction will be a good wader on the muddy areas at the Flashes
Cheers John
Don't forget I am always ready to listen to constructive critism as long as it benefits the reserve and all the visitors (human and birdlife)

[StarainBoy]

Mmm, you may be right, Pete. Yet when some will sit for hours waiting for a Kingfisher it just seemed spookily quiet there! Whatever, you were all very lucky being in the right place at the right time!

I turned up at ten when the early risers were about giving up and funnily enough got a great view of a perching kingfisher as compensation.

[midlands birder]

OK then
News from Saturday 15th Aug 2009
The Flashes (highlights) 5.40am - 11am
Montagu's Harrier seen briefly at 7.40am
Hobby
Teal 47, Shoveler 19, Mallard 415
Wood Sandpiper, Green Sandpiper 16, Common Sand 4, Snipe 8, Curlew 30, Black Tailed Godwit, Lapwing 185,
Raven 3, Yellow Wag, Grey Wag juv, Goldfinch 80+, House Martin 80-100
Water Rail 3 (2 adults + juv), Stock Dove c35
please add your sightings in the hide log books plus counts of individual species which helps when compiling the annual report, it also makes it more interesting at migration times as species build up or move out. At the Moors
Spotted Crake and Little Egret
My next prediction will be a good wader on the muddy areas at the Flashes
Cheers John
Don't forget I am always ready to listen to constructive critism as long as it benefits the reserve and all the visitors (human and birdlife)

always do:t:,and it helps to find out if a bird has been seen;)

[senatore]

With all these great birds and pics coming out from UW I thought I'd pay a visit which would be the first time since I got frozen to death waiting for the Waxwings last winter.

Went to the Moors first and tried all the hides in a 2 hour stay but although I met several very friendly locals I never saw anything of note and didn't use the camera at all.I never do any good at the Moors I must discover when Duckpond is going there next and follow him round.Nice place though.

At lunchtime I went to the flashes where in the furthest hide another friendly local told me "All the good stuff left last night".Still had a pleasant hour in the hide and saw 6+ Curlew,a lone Common Snipe,10+ Green Sandpipers,a lone Dunlin and 3 Common Sandpipers.

Max.

[Duck_Pond]

I wonder what "good stuff" they meant? Not sure about you following me Max... the last time you did that, my 40D broke! :eek!:

Added a couple of water rail shots taken over the weekend. A most accommodating bird for once, at that tender young age.

[midlands birder]

again well done on the photos max and pete, as kellogs would say,there great:t::-O

[upstarts1979]

Hi Pete
were the juvenile water rail pictures taken from the concrete hide? If so that would indicate breeding at five areas of the reserve
cheers John
Max - the good stuff I presume was reference to the Wood Sand.

[Duck_Pond]

No, these were taken from the Hen Pool hide over the weekend. I saw 2 juveniles wandering around.

Also of note, there was a pair of reed warblers nesting in the patch of reeds in front of the hide too.

I'll have pics of the parents online maybe tonight.

[midlands birder]

No, these were taken from the Hen Pool hide over the weekend. I saw 2 juveniles wandering around.

Also of note, there was a pair of reed warblers nesting in the patch of reeds in front of the hide too.

I'll have pics of the parents online maybe tonight.

i saw a juv water rail in front of the water rail(concrete) hide while watching the crake:t:

[upstarts1979]

Cheers MB
That would confirm that in all the main reed fringed areas breeding has occurred. At least 7 broods being seen from an unknown number of pairs and who knows how many unseen young there are.
john

[upstarts1979]

This Saturday we are enduring ( can be hard but enjoyable) the almost annual Autumn 'All-dayer' birdwatch at the reserve. During the day we record as many species as we can seen or heard it doesn't matter. I will post the previous totals as soon as I can get hold of them. Unless Mike can post them for me.

[midlands birder]

This Saturday we are enduring ( can be hard but enjoyable) the almost annual Autumn 'All-dayer' birdwatch at the reserve. During the day we record as many species as we can seen or heard it doesn't matter. I will post the previous totals as soon as I can get hold of them. Unless Mike can post them for me.

wish i could be there all day,but i have a job to do,i should be there the night though for the roost(someone find a spotted crake again and have the montys fly over,but throw a net over the montys so i can tick it:-O:t:)
hope you get some good stuffB (:B (:B (:
MB

[midlands birder]

Cheers MB
That would confirm that in all the main reed fringed areas breeding has occurred. At least 7 broods being seen from an unknown number of pairs and who knows how many unseen young there are.
john

thats really good,could it be a good winter for some showy birds;)

[draycotebirding]

OK then
News from Saturday 15th Aug 2009
The Flashes (highlights) 5.40am - 11am
Montagu's Harrier seen briefly at 7.40am
Hobby
Teal 47, Shoveler 19, Mallard 415
Wood Sandpiper, Green Sandpiper 16, Common Sand 4, Snipe 8, Curlew 30, Black Tailed Godwit, Lapwing 185,
Raven 3, Yellow Wag, Grey Wag juv, Goldfinch 80+, House Martin 80-100
Water Rail 3 (2 adults + juv), Stock Dove c35
please add your sightings in the hide log books plus counts of individual species which helps when compiling the annual report, it also makes it more interesting at migration times as species build up or move out.
At the Moors
Spotted Crake and Little Egret
My next prediction will be a good wader on the muddy areas at the Flashes
Cheers John
Don't forget I am always ready to listen to constructive critism as long as it benefits the reserve and all the visitors (human and birdlife)

A good Gull would be nice ;)

John

[midlands birder]

A good Gull would be nice ;)

John

you talking about the adult SABINES GULL in the roost 2nite,if its still there tomoz im going for it and i will be searching on sat too,just hope it sticks:t:
i know if i miss one of these i will have a few of these tomorow nightB (:B (:B (:B (:

[StarainBoy]

This Saturday we are enduring ( can be hard but enjoyable) the almost annual Autumn 'All-dayer' birdwatch at the reserve. During the day we record as many species as we can seen or heard it doesn't matter. I will post the previous totals as soon as I can get hold of them. Unless Mike can post them for me.

Good luck with that. May even pop in to see how you're getting on. You'll be at West Moors?

[senatore]

I wonder what "good stuff" they meant? Not sure about you following me Max... the last time you did that, my 40D broke! :eek!:

Added a couple of water rail shots taken over the weekend. A most accommodating bird for once, at that tender young age.

Super shots Pete.A couple skulked around in the reeds when I was there but the swines wouldn't come out in the open.

The "good stuff" did include the Wood Sandpiper and some BT Godwits apparently.

I will visit UW more often now as I've found I can get there in the same time as it takes me to get to Brandon Marsh (and my Warwickshire WW Trust card gets me in doesn't it???)

Max.

[Duck_Pond]

Ah, well if it makes you feel better, I didn't even bother with the wood sandpiper as it was always camped out on the far side of the lake, and even Rob with his 1600mm lens reach moaned about how far off it was!!

Yes, the Warks Trust card grants you access, afaik.

[Emma]

Managed to see the Sabine's Gull at the Flashes tonight!! :t: It was a nice bird to see and I managed a record shot of it which will do for me!!!

Also of note was a Whimbrel, Juv Little Ringed Plover and hundreds of roosting B H Gulls!!

[upstarts1979]

To Pam and Emma your timing is impeccable as I had only just re-found the Sabs Gull at 8.28 just as you were on the approach to the hide hope you enjoyed it. A brilliant bird found by Gordon Greaves on Thursday a 2nd record for the reserve.
Cheers John

[upstarts1979]

Hi Emma
I must have posted at the same time before I saw your picture
a nice atmosheric shot
John

[Richard Powell]

Not that I venture into Worcs that very often (or anywhere Saarrf of Birminnum), but I have to say I'm staggered that the Sabine's Gull roosted again at UW this evening. Didn't expect that at all, well done! :t:

[Pam_m]

I agree with John, a nice atmospheric shot, Emma! Well done!:t:

We know when to arrive, John!o:D Lucky that the Gull was in front of the hide and not at the back of beyond! Thrilled to bits seeing it this evening! Forgot to take my scope after a last minute decision to go to Upton but a kind gentleman offered his scope for us to see the Gull clearly. Our thanks to the gentleman concerned.:t: Didn't forget my pass though!;)
All the best for tomorrow, I shall look forward to reading the results!

[gareth_blockley]

Anyone who owns a cat seen a Wryneck recently?!

[upstarts1979]

Re Wryneck - cat nothing to do with Upton warren Gary. for those that don't know a cat killed a wryneck in an evesham garden Friday. Use worcester section for any comments.
john

[upstarts1979]

At present Upton is extremely busy all day and everyday.
With this in mind and for other reasons (explained later) We are conducting a wardening scheme to check memberships and permits. For all members of the Worcestershire Wildlife trust please understand this is for your benefit.
A trial run on Friday carried out by myself revealed everyone was a member except for five people out of the 50 or so asked. Of these two were other trust members and three had purchased permits from the sailing centre.

In the event of a major rarity appearing this situation would be far different.
(due to the nature of its appearance at roosting times the Sab' Gull will not probably attract too much attention - although non members will be charged)
In that situation daily permits/admission fee would be implemented and a wardening team will be on site.

RATIONALE:
*The parking facility at the Sailing centre is by 'gentleman's agreement' and at present the relationship with their staff is excellent. By rights they can ask to see your membership card.
* The Wocestershire Trust have no idea what % of their membership visit Upton. Thus we will be able to let them know in time
*Anyone joining the trust does so because they care for wildlife. So if people are visiting without contributing.. why should they join?

BENEFIT
* If the Trust membership increases directly as a result of peoples affinity with Upton - then hopefully more land and facilities will be provided.

PLEASE CARRY YOUR MEMBERSHIP CARDS AT ALL TIMES AND DO NOT BE OFFENDED WHEN ASKED, ALSO GET INVOLVED ON WORK PARTIES AND ANY FUTURE WARDENING SITUATION. SPREAD THE WORD AMONGST OTHER BIRDERS WHEN ON SITE
cheers John

[gareth_blockley]

Re Wryneck - cat nothing to do with Upton warren Gary. for those that don't know a cat killed a wryneck in an evesham garden Friday. Use worcester section for any comments.
john

Appologies John, posted in hast and didin't think of the fact this thread is only for Upton Warren.
Keep up the good work,

Gareth

[Dean Powell]

Hi John,

I think it would be a good idea for the Trust to purchase land around Upton Warren (if the opportunity arises) and farm it for wildlife and also for profit which would then benefit the Trust.

This was raised by another birder I spoke to recently when visiting.

You need a hide on the other side of the Flashes ;)

Dean:t:

Happy Birding

[Pam_m]

Hi John,

I think it would be a good idea for the Trust to purchase land around Upton Warren (if the opportunity arises) and farm it for wildlife and also for profit which would then benefit the Trust.

This was raised by another birder I spoke to recently when visiting.

You need a hide on the other side of the Flashes ;)

Dean:t:

Happy Birding

I couldn't agree more, Dean!o:D

[upstarts1979]

Thanks Dean and Pam for your comments. I agree with both ideas

Re buying land around Upton
this is something Myself and all the work party lads always talk about in fact many people also say the same things . Small parcels of land have in the past come up for sale BUT the Sailing centre have aquired them. For one reason Money! hopefully in the near future more land will be up for sale and the Trust will have a fundraising effort that we could all get involved in..it would be up to us then.

Re hide at the Flashes
Years ago we contemplated installing a hide along the footpath/south side of the Flashes. But the approach would have to be so well screened that a tall bank would be the only option this would compromise the open aspect of the Flashes to the extent that waders would be less attracted to the site. This would be an even bigger problem with a hide opposite the existing ones.
Another factor is that many waders - lapwing curlew and snipe feed in the fields behind the 3rd Flash so this habitat would be rendered useless through disturbance access would also mean destroying some of the prime jack snipe habitat.
However a hide at the back of the archery field overlooking the Flashes from the north side of the Hen Brook could be an option.

All these questions shows people care and want to improve Upton the same questions I have been asking for 30 years. Many of those questions have been answered for instance did you know that the tower hide at the Flashes
replaced a small 6 seater hide 20 yards in front of it. That was part of a plan 25 years ago to create more wader habitat, and it happened. so I never give up asking for me more.
cheers John

[Pam_m]

An interesting post, thanks John!:t:

[upstarts1979]

Well it didn't really happen - due to most of the lads having to commit to family matters including one going to the V festival. plus other dodgey excuses. The Sabs Gull also caused a lot of re-arranging. Myself ended up spending 16 hours at the reserve on Friday. On Saturday Paul spent most of the day and Phil had a very early start with one or two straddlers appearing.
Over the two days some good birds appeared but conditions for visible migration (vis mig) were not brilliant. When you choose the day in advance you never know what the weather will be. Thus SW breeze with warm sunny conditions are not condusive to good migration.
Highlights
Sabines Gull, Med Gull (juv), Whimbrel, Dunlin, LRP, Snipe, Green Sand (13), Common Sand (5), Raven (4), Hobby, Peregrine, Little Egret,
Vis Mig - Swift (5), Sand Martin c20, Common Tern 2 south,
Summer breeders: - Lesser whitethroat, Common Whitethroat,
A total of 80 species were recorded.
cheers john

[upstarts1979]

The Sab's Gull did not appear tonight so we can assume its reorientated and set out to sea.
I will be away in greece for a week so good birding at Upton and don't forget to carry your membership cards.
cheers John

[Pam_m]

Well it didn't really happen - due to most of the lads having to commit to family matters including one going to the V festival. plus other dodgey excuses. The Sabs Gull also caused a lot of re-arranging. Myself ended up spending 16 hours at the reserve on Friday. On Saturday Paul spent most of the day and Phil had a very early start with one or two straddlers appearing.
Over the two days some good birds appeared but conditions for visible migration (vis mig) were not brilliant. When you choose the day in advance you never know what the weather will be. Thus SW breeze with warm sunny conditions are not condusive to good migration.
Highlights
Sabines Gull, Med Gull (juv), Whimbrel, Dunlin, LRP, Snipe, Green Sand (13), Common Sand (5), Raven (4), Hobby, Peregrine, Little Egret,
Vis Mig - Swift (5), Sand Martin c20, Common Tern 2 south,
Summer breeders: - Lesser whitethroat, Common Whitethroat,
A total of 80 species were recorded.
cheers john

I would be chuffed with seeing half that amount of species in a day, John!;)
Thanks for the info once again!:-O


The Sab's Gull did not appear tonight so we can assume its reorientated and set out to sea.
I will be away in greece for a week so good birding at Upton and don't forget to carry your membership cards.
cheers John

If you haven't left for Greece yet, I hope you have a great holiday and a safe journey, if you have left and read this on your return, then I hope it was a good one!:t:
Oh and don't let all that sun disorientate you when you return and visit Upton, remember to take your membership card...just in case!o:D

[upstarts1979]

Thanks for that Pam just leaving. Hope you see some good birds at upton while I am away, any rarities will hopefully stay until next Tuesday at least.
cheers John

[wheatearlp]

For those that haven't seen it yet - the Sabine's roosted again tonight, coming in at 19.30. Don't forget that Worcs WT (or other county wildlife trust) membership is required to access the reserve. Permits are currently available at £1.00 each, although with effect from next week this will increse to £3.00!

[Emma]

For those that haven't seen it yet - the Sabine's roosted again tonight, coming in at 19.30. Don't forget that Worcs WT (or other county wildlife trust) membership is required to access the reserve. Permits are currently available at £1.00 each, although with effect from next week this will increse to £3.00!


Glad to hear the Sabine's Gull is still around but I think we have all got the message about membership cards now.....this thread is more for the bird sightings at Upton rather than access to the reserve....more bird sightings please as at the end of the day this is what will get people to visit the reserve!! This thread isn't a secondary Worcs Wildlife Trust noticeboard!

(£3.00 is a bit steep btw for the permits especially as there aren't any facilities at Upton Warren ie toilets.)

[Roger P]

Glad to hear the Sabine's Gull is still around but I think we have all got the message about membership cards now.....this thread is more for the bird sightings at Upton rather than access to the reserve....more bird sightings please as at the end of the day this is what will get people to visit the reserve!! This thread isn't a secondary Worcs Wildlife Trust noticeboard!

(£3.00 is a bit steep btw for the permits especially as there aren't any facilities at Upton Warren ie toilets.)

Think that's a bit sharp Emma. Post No.1 gives general info about the reserve (which although having plenty of general wildlife interest is primarily a bird reserve) and includes a section about access. Clearly that is about to change and prior warning is useful. Actually I think the arrangements do need to be made clear: I've visited for 20+ years and Tuesday was the first time I've ever had to show my card and I'm aware that WWT are encouraging wardens / managers to do this on reserves now. These posts will stop potential embarrassment and I'll be certain to check my card before I set out on a 15 mile trip!

I hope the thread will comment on all aspects of the Reserve, some of John's posts have been really interesting.

Perhaps we need a second 'What's at the Warren' thread to just list sightings.

[senatore]

Went to UW again yesterday.I'm becoming a regular now I've discovered my Warks wildlife card gets me in and I can get there quicker than I can get to Brandon Marsh.

Went to the Moores pools first and was chuffed to find three Black Terns zooming round at great speed.Getting a decent shot was impossible as the sun from the hide I was in was directly in front of me (well that's my excuse).Didn't see anything else of note and surprisingly hardly any other birders were there.

Went to the flashes next and it was very quiet from the main hide (some roofing work had been done earlier).Did see 17 Curlew (the roofing men had counted 37), 8 Green Sandpipers,2 common Sandpipers and 2 Ringed Plovers.

Max.

[The blackbird]

Glad to hear the Sabine's Gull is still around but I think we have all got the message about membership cards now.....this thread is more for the bird sightings at Upton rather than access to the reserve....more bird sightings please as at the end of the day this is what will get people to visit the reserve!! This thread isn't a secondary Worcs Wildlife Trust noticeboard!

(£3.00 is a bit steep btw for the permits especially as there aren't any facilities at Upton Warren ie toilets.)




£3 is nothing; try fishing or golf if you think that. Better still join the Trust, then it s free.

[Rob Smallwood]

At the risk of upsetting some - what is the permit score for the birder that would like to pop in,say on his way home to Manchester from relatives in the SW and arriving in the evening?

[Pam_m]

For those that haven't seen it yet - the Sabine's roosted again tonight, coming in at 19.30. Don't forget that Worcs WT (or other county wildlife trust) membership is required to access the reserve. Permits are currently available at £1.00 each, although with effect from next week this will increse to £3.00!

Welcome to Birdforum, Wheatearlp! Looking forward to more posts from you!

I think it is worth mentioning that the £3.00 charge for the permit (£1.00 at present) does not include the Outdoor Education Centre carpark charge of I believe to be £1.00 at present. I have contacted the WWT HQ to have this confirmed on behalf of a friend. Another point worth mentioning , I was told by the Worcs WT HQ that if receipts are retained they can be used against membership fees if they wish to join the Worcs WT.

[Pam_m]

Went to UW again yesterday.I'm becoming a regular now I've discovered my Warks wildlife card gets me in and I can get there quicker than I can get to Brandon Marsh.

Went to the Moores pools first and was chuffed to find three Black Terns zooming round at great speed.Getting a decent shot was impossible as the sun from the hide I was in was directly in front of me (well that's my excuse).Didn't see anything else of note and surprisingly hardly any other birders were there.

Went to the flashes next and it was very quiet from the main hide (some roofing work had been done earlier).Did see 17 Curlew (the roofing men had counted 37), 8 Green Sandpipers,2 common Sandpipers and 2 Ringed Plovers.

Max.

Black Terns are super to watch aren't they, Max! :t: Great to see you are becoming a regular at the Warren! Might bump into you one day, though I tend to go evenings (occasionally) and Sundays normally!

Great pics, glad you enjoyed your visit!

[midlands birder]

been away this week,saw the sabs gull 3 times,got some good footage will be back with full report nex tuesday.

[wheatearlp]

Re replies to my earlier post:

Emma - As highlighted by 'The Blackbird' £3.00 isn't that expensive for a permit and it doesn't apply if you're a member of WWT, or any other county wildlife trust, anyway. Also I wasn't aware a forum was purely for listing bird sightings, surely a forum is a place for open discussion?

Rob Smallwood - the situation would be the same whatever time you arrived. I have to pay to visit sites in Norfolk, or Wildfowl & Wetlands sites, at whatever time of day I arrive.

[Emma]

Re replies to my earlier post:

Emma - As highlighted by 'The Blackbird' £3.00 isn't that expensive for a permit and it doesn't apply if you're a member of WWT, or any other county wildlife trust, anyway. Also I wasn't aware a forum was purely for listing bird sightings, surely a forum is a place for open discussion?


The reason why I may have appeared sharp (not intentionally!) is because in my opinion there has been too much emphasis of late on charges/permits to enter the reserve by both members of this forum and individuals met whilst at the reserve. The information about charges/permits should be made clear at the reserve at the car parks/in the hides and also on the Worcs Wildlife Trust website as this would be the first port of call for people who want to visit Upton to find out more information. I agree that a forum is a place for open discussion but this thread was started for the sole purpose of latest sightings and reports from Upton Warren, hopefully the members who have joined in this discussion will also add their Upton sightings to this thread.

[Emma]

Went to UW again yesterday.I'm becoming a regular now I've discovered my Warks wildlife card gets me in and I can get there quicker than I can get to Brandon Marsh.

Went to the Moores pools first and was chuffed to find three Black Terns zooming round at great speed.Getting a decent shot was impossible as the sun from the hide I was in was directly in front of me (well that's my excuse).Didn't see anything else of note and surprisingly hardly any other birders were there.

Went to the flashes next and it was very quiet from the main hide (some roofing work had been done earlier).Did see 17 Curlew (the roofing men had counted 37), 8 Green Sandpipers,2 common Sandpipers and 2 Ringed Plovers.

Max.

Sounds like you had a good visit to Upton Max, your Black Tern pics have come out really well :t:...much better than the blurred effort that I managed a few months ago! Bet it was lovely to watch them zip around!! Hopefully they will stick around for a few more days!!

[Brian Stretch]

The reason why I may have appeared sharp (not intentionally!) is because in my opinion there has been too much emphasis of late on charges/permits to enter the reserve by both members of this forum and individuals met whilst at the reserve. The information about charges/permits should be made clear at the reserve at the car parks/in the hides and also on the Worcs Wildlife Trust website as this would be the first port of call for people who want to visit Upton to find out more information. I agree that a forum is a place for open discussion but this thread was started for the sole purpose of latest sightings and reports from Upton Warren, hopefully the members who have joined in this discussion will also add their Upton sightings to this thread.

Hi Emma,

Hopefully the relevant info can be found here: (subject to next weeks increase of course!) - http://www.worcesterbirding.co.uk/upton_warren_14.html

Brian
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[Rob Smallwood]

Rob Smallwood is happy to pay - I wondered where to pay?

[wheatearlp]

Rob - If you're making a spur of the moment visit and the Sailing Centre is closed, and there are no wardens on site, then you'd be in for nothing!

[Emma]

Had a productive visit to Upton Warren this afternoon, it was fairly busy over at the Flashes with 2 LRP, 5+ Green Sandpipers, 1 Common Sandpiper, 3 Snipe, Juv Teal & Shoveller and 2 Juv Water Rail in amongst the high numbers of BH Gulls that were present and who's number swelled after the heavy rain had ceased! We scanned the BH Gull flock for the Sabine's Gull just incase it decided to come in earlier but alas it didn't!! Back at the sailing pool car park we were quite surprised to see 2 Ravens fly over head, this was only my second sighting of them at Upton and was soon to be followed by my third sighting as they flew over the Moors Pool calling about 30 mins later!!

Over at the Moors we were treated to some super views of one of the Kingfishers that was purched in amongst the bull rushes for over an hour just moving once in a while to catch a fish when it as hungry!! Also present was the Little Egret and also a juv Black Tern was flying here there and everywhere at the back of the pool...still too far away for a decent piccie!! It was nice to see the Swifts flying low near the car park especially as they all seem to have disappeared from my area of the Midlands!!

[Dean Powell]

Today I visited Upton Warren, Worcestershire and saw:-

Black Tern (Juvenile)
Water Rail 1
Raven 2
Kingfisher 1
Green Sandpiper
Common Sandpiper
Snipe 3
Little Ringed Plover 3
Little Egret 1

Had excellent views of the Black Tern in flight with the Black Headed Gulls and at rest on one of the Islands.

Went to look at the Gull Roost at the Flashes and had great views of the Sabine's Gull which came in at 7pm. Watched it land on the ground, take to the water and superb views in flight through my scope. It was interesting comparing the size of the gull alongside the Black headed Gulls, LBB Gulls and Herring Gulls. It was quite a moment when it came into view arriving with other Black Headed Gulls.

Dean

Happy Birding

[Roger P]

this thread was started for the sole purpose of latest sightings and reports from Upton Warren, .

Apologies if I misrepresented the mood of your earlier post Emma.

Nevertheless sorry to labour the point but I can find no suggestion in post No.1 that this thread is for sightings only, indeed it looks like a general description of all things pertaining to the reserve. To repeat my earlier suggestion do you think we need two threads?

I agree it is unfortunate that the main topic of conversation in the hides is about charges but it is, for example, difficult to ignore the individual who thought he should not have to pay because he had been going since he went with Bill Oddie, he knew Harry Green and Colin Raven, used to know Andrew Fraser and they would'nt have charged him! (my guess is that they would all have been disappointed to think he had never wanted to help support the Trust!!)

The reserve does seem to be going through a 'purple patch' let us hope we can all see the value of a couple of hours there.

Nice Kingfisher Emma - much better than on a pole!

[wheatearlp]

Apologies if I misrepresented the mood of your earlier post Emma.

Nevertheless sorry to labour the point but I can find no suggestion in post No.1 that this thread is for sightings only, indeed it looks like a general description of all things pertaining to the reserve. To repeat my earlier suggestion do you think we need two threads?

I agree it is unfortunate that the main topic of conversation in the hides is about charges but it is, for example, difficult to ignore the individual who thought he should not have to pay because he had been going since he went with Bill Oddie, he knew Harry Green and Colin Raven, used to know Andrew Fraser and they would'nt have charged him! (my guess is that they would all have been disappointed to think he had never wanted to help support the Trust!!)

The reserve does seem to be going through a 'purple patch' let us hope we can all see the value of a couple of hours there.

Nice Kingfisher Emma - much better than on a pole!


The original post was in 2003! This more recent thread was only started earlier this month, at the suggestion of some forum members, instead of posting upton info on the west midlands forum. Not entirely sure why it should be restricted to sightings, but it's a forum so everyone is entitled to their opinion!

The fact that you will have to purchase a permit is mentioned on the WWT web-site, but no sum is mentioned. It does suggest that you purchase a permit from WWT prior to visiting, but this is not always practical. To put charges on the info boards probably wouldn't help as, in my experience, lots of visitors don't look at them ... or at least those found wandering around the Broadmeadow area, in front of hides & through feeding stations haven't.

To appease those that only want sightings - an Osprey flew over the Sailing Pool & Flashes just prior to 8.30 (per the Worcesterbirding web-site)

[Hippo]

I have never visited Upton Warren :eek!: and feel that I must do so soon :t:. I just have to convince myself that birders using the site are not too scary ;).

Personally, I find information on access vital, especially when visiting new sites and would welcome any updates :t:

Similarly, news on bird (& other wildlife) sightings are also vital, including where to find them or where last seen.

I am sure a happy medium can be reached :t:

Now, where are my maps....................... ;)

[JackRabbit]

Hi Everybody

Sorry to keep this permits/access issue going but I was a bit surprised to have to pay for a permit today as I've been a member of the Birmingham & Black Country Wildlife Trust for about 10 years.

The problem is that the BBCWT stopped issuing annual membership cards at renewal a few years ago, the last one I received has the date 14/03/2003 on it so naturally today's voluntary warden considered this to be out of date & therefore invalid.

I'm sure there are a few more BBCWT members out there who will have the same problem, so I was wondering if there is any way around this, other than resigning from one trust just to join another, which seems a bit daft to me.

[midlands birder]

hi everyone im back,right what did i see at upton well an awful lot this week,seen the sabine's gull 4 times (yeah im greedy).on saturday 22nd(1st try for sab gull).we noted a little egret fly over,the juv dunlin was still presant,a whimbrel at the back of the flash,a juv med gull(only from hide),sabine's gull(flew in at 8:20,watch out on blog for full story).what a night this was.
monday 24th, the moors pool,the 2 kingfishers gave stunning views on the stick in front of the east(lapwing) hide and i got a minuite long video,also a common sand.
got tipped off that 6 black terns had newly arrived at the sailing pool and we shot off down there,all 6 were still there(2 partial summer adults and rest juv),a peregrine was seen carrying a live white dove(from the moors farm) towards tyhe masts but was not relocated,a juv LRP was down,the dunlin still,2 snipe,the sabines gull was found on the deck at 7:55(note that the bird wasent seen the night before),2 cettis and 4 reed warbler were giving stunning views in the hen pool.apink b h gull was on the flashes
wednesday 26th
water rail and 2 black tern giving good views at the moors(though the terns were in flight) as was a kingfisher,
the sabines gull was found on the floor again and the black terns from the moors came down,the birds mentioned previously were still there(well most of them)
then a day at slimbridge.
saturday 29th took my friend down for the first time(he was megga impressed,4 lifers for him) a black tern was still about and landing on the rail giving great views from the concrete hide,again a common sand,a count of 3 kingfisher was made from the west hide(one of which perched on the water gage)also viewed a peregrine on the masts from the moors.a superb golden plover flew in at around 7:??(which was attacked by an adult l b b gull but got waway unharmed) the black tern from the moors did a few shorties over the flashes and the sabines gull was found on the floor yet agin(again after it hadent roosted the night before),how about that for a week at upton,photos will be posted later!!

[Duck_Pond]

Popped over to the Moors this afternoon in the gloom, though the sun made a couple of brief appearances. Saw the black tern, as it darted up and down in flight. Shame it favours the far side of the lake, as it made getting pics tricky. Didn't perch on the rail when I was there, but I wasn't there that long...

Also saw the bittern, as it flew to the reedbed near the gate (car park). No pics of that as it was too far off.

What's with the rabbits at the Moors? Seems to be a fair few that appear to be blind. Had one wandering around by my feet as I walked out of the Water Rail hide today. Didn't know I was there. I hope it's not Myxomatosis.

[upstarts1979]

I have just returned from a weeks holiday and it appears that a lively debate has ensued.
Having been birding at upton for 32 years I have seen massive changes during that time.
Over the next few weeks I ( hopefully with the help of wheatearlp) will try and explain some of the History of the reserve which may help explain some of the recent developements there.
It is quite obvious that there are many new members joining the trust within the last 4 years or so. So the information will help them appreciate how the reserve has evolved into a prime birding site. And how much of this work was organised and carried out by volunteers independently of any Trust involvement although the Trust always oversaw everything.
cheers John
ps I will try and put my take on all the posts over the last week in chronological order

[upstarts1979]

At the risk of upsetting some - what is the permit score for the birder that would like to pop in,say on his way home to Manchester from relatives in the SW and arriving in the evening?


Hi Rob
what we are trying to achieve at Upton is not to a create closed shop BUT a place for all like minded (wildlife lovers) to visit and have an enjoyable experience.
Whilst feeling part of what to many is a warm and welcoming place you want to preserve that empathy and as many of us over the years have done, you also want to get involved to maximize its potential, both for your pleasure and to attract more wildlife. (thus the formation of todays WORK PARTIES).

20 years ago we started a permit scheme to minimize the disturbance caused by the local youth and dog walkers abusing the reserve and hides. Touch wood a problem seldom encountered today. Over the years this scheme lapsed for various reasons but presently the popularity of Upton is again increasing so we are hopefully able to encourage more people to become members of the Wocestershire Trust.

My answer to your question is why not join your local Trust Lancashire or Cheshire and wherever you are you can visit any local trust reserve.

All wildlife Trust members are more than welcome at Upton Warren

cheers John

[midlands birder]

heres some photos from upton this weeks: note the black tern with the white rump/tail(just a varient),the twitch pic is on sat 22nd:
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[midlands birder]

Hi Rob
what we are trying to achieve at Upton is not to a create closed shop BUT a place for all like minded (wildlife lovers) to visit and have an enjoyable experience.
Whilst feeling part of what to many is a warm and welcoming place you want to preserve that empathy and as many of us over the years have done, you also want to get involved to maximize its potential, both for your pleasure and to attract more wildlife. (thus the formation of todays WORK PARTIES).

20 years ago we started a permit scheme to minimize the disturbance caused by the local youth and dog walkers abusing the reserve and hides. Touch wood a problem seldom encountered today. Over the years this scheme lapsed for various reasons but presently the popularity of Upton is again increasing so we are hopefully able to encourage more people to become members of the Wocestershire Trust.

My answer to your question is why not join your local Trust Lancashire or Cheshire and wherever you are you can visit any local trust reserve.

All wildlife Trust members are more than welcome at Upton Warren

cheers John

hey,i dont cause disturbance i like watching the stuff there;):t::-O

MB

[Pam_m]

I have just returned from a weeks holiday and it appears that a lively debate has ensued.
Having been birding at upton for 32 years I have seen massive changes during that time.
Over the next few weeks I ( hopefully with the help of wheatearlp) will try and explain some of the History of the reserve which may help explain some of the recent developements there.
It is quite obvious that there are many new members joining the trust within the last 4 years or so. So the information will help them appreciate how the reserve has evolved into a prime birding site. And how much of this work was organised and carried out by volunteers independently of any Trust involvement although the Trust always oversaw everything.cheers John
ps I will try and put my take on all the posts over the last week in chronological order


Why not just recommend WWT members or non members purchase 'The Birds Of Upton Warren', Celebrating 40 years as a Worcestershire Wildlife Trust reserve 1968-2008. There just done it for you, John!
I find your comments highlighted very patronising, I do not know what yourself and Wheatearlp are aiming to achieve with all of the recent posts. I get the feeling the matter is more 'in house' at Upton and should be dealt with there and not on a forum. Perhaps a newsletter to members from the WWT would be a better idea and reach more members than there are here on BF.

I admire the work done by the working parties at Upton Warren as I do at other reserves that I visit as I am a member of other organisations besides Worcs WT! Local council reserve wardens/volounteeers are to be applauded too for their work in managing some great local reserves.

[midlands birder]

Why not just recommend WWT members or non members purchase 'The Birds Of Upton Warren', Celebrating 40 years as a Worcestershire Wildlife Trust reserve 1968-2008. There just done it for you, John!
.

and it is a very good book too might i add :t:
well worth the money;)
MB

[Roger P]

I find your comments highlighted very patronising, I do not know what yourself and Wheatearlp are aiming to achieve with all of the recent posts. I get the feeling the matter is more 'in house' at Upton and should be dealt with there and not on a forum. Perhaps a newsletter to members from the WWT would be a better idea and reach more members than there are here on BF.

I'm puzzled by this, as I've said before I don't see why this thread about UW should not be a general discussion of all the issues surrounding what is becoming an increasingly popular reserve with Birdforum members. I for one am very happy to hear John's informed views and can't understand how I might be being patronised. WWT members do get a newsletter which, from time to time, has updates on UW. Presumably John is hoping to:

a) reach those people who are BF members but not Trust members,
b) provide more detail for trust members with a specific interest in UW


I admire the work done by the working parties at Upton Warren as I do at other reserves that I visit as I am a member of other organisations besides Worcs WT! Local council reserve wardens/volounteeers are to be applauded too for their work in managing some great local reserves.

I don't understand your point Pam (whilst I agree with the sentiments I feel that you expect something to be read between the lines)

... although perhaps I've hit the nail on the head - I'm too slow and probably need patronising! ;)

[midlands birder]

wouldent it be better just to put everything about upton warren on this fourum eg bird sightings,work parties,price changes,even if most of the people who come on this fourum are WWT members(thats worcester wildlife trust for anybody that doesent know,not wildfowl and wetlands trust)there are bound to be a few that arnt,i like to hear whats happening at upton and whats been done to improve it,whether its putting the prices up for more funding or putting in a new hide/or scrape.and anyway why are we having this argument when most of us dont have to pay for the permits anyway(because were in the WWT),but we do pay for the membership of WWT.
now i will not speek about this again:-O;)

[midlands birder]

Popped over to the Moors this afternoon in the gloom, though the sun made a couple of brief appearances. Saw the black tern, as it darted up and down in flight. Shame it favours the far side of the lake, as it made getting pics tricky. Didn't perch on the rail when I was there, but I wasn't there that long...

Also saw the bittern, as it flew to the reedbed near the gate (car park). No pics of that as it was too far off.

What's with the rabbits at the Moors? Seems to be a fair few that appear to be blind. Had one wandering around by my feet as I walked out of the Water Rail hide today. Didn't know I was there. I hope it's not Myxomatosis.

sorry about the late reply pete,im glad you saw this the bittern hasent been seen there for quite a bit,i havent yet saw it this winter:-C but im hoping to catch up with it soon(and get an identifiable photo):-O
MB

[Duck_Pond]

Popped over to the Moors again yesterday afternoon after getting out of work early. Apart from the grim conditions and how dark it was, got to see the juv black tern performing its aerial acrobatics which are wonderful to watch, but make photographing it a nightmare!

Also saw a couple of water rails (juv and adult) and the kingfisher (all from the Water Rail hide).

Got lovely views of a juv goldfinch making the most of the thistles outside the hide.

[upstarts1979]

Why not just recommend WWT members or non members purchase 'The Birds Of Upton Warren', Celebrating 40 years as a Worcestershire Wildlife Trust reserve 1968-2008. There just done it for you, John!

I find your comments highlighted very patronising, I do not know what yourself and Wheatearlp are aiming to achieve with all of the recent posts. I get the feeling the matter is more 'in house' at Upton and should be dealt with there and not on a forum. Perhaps a newsletter to members from the WWT would be a better idea and reach more members than there are here on BF.

I admire the work done by the working parties at Upton Warren as I do at other reserves that I visit as I am a member of other organisations besides Worcs WT! Local council reserve wardens/volounteeers are to be applauded too for their work in managing some great local reserves.

Sorry you feel that way Pam Just trying to inform people about Upton present and past - so hopefully in time they will have the same passion that I have for the place (and get involved).
Some people are interested in habitat creation and management and how a place functions and its direct effect on Birds and other wildlife.
Are you saying you're not intersested in the way upton has evolved what makes it 'tick' etc maybe its not your cup of tea BUT that doesn't mean no one else is interested. I am just trying to share my pleasure in how I and many others helped to create the Upton of today (30 years ago the place was totally different and by far less interesting)
I will continue to use this forum to inform people about all aspects of Upton Warren. (unless they say otherwise)
The Trust do not keep records of all work carried out or Birds seen and they will not spend precious resources solely on Upton. Thus I want to share all my knowledge of the place if people want it. (I am not looking for praise I just want to encourage more people to the work parties more people more work done)

For instance the first upton report (1984) was produced to fund the feeding station that was created by myself and Stuart Croft independently of the Trust, just in case you thought the Trust instegated it.
cheers John

[wheatearlp]

Why not just recommend WWT members or non members purchase [B]'The Birds Of Upton Warren', Celebrating 40 years as a Worcestershire Wildlife Trust reserve 1968-2008.

Unfortunately I don't think there are any copies left available, or if there are it is only a few, which the Trust will have; I'll confirm this with Phil Andrews. There are of course the annual reports, there are still a few left for both 2007 & 2008.

As with Roger P, I'm not quite sure where patronising fits in? But perhaps I too am missing something in translation? As far as I can see John is just stating that a lot of work has gone into, and still goes into, making Upton the place it is now.

Without the work carried out over the last 20-odd years the Moors Pools would be a smaller and both surrounded by trees and therefore not as attractive to the range of waterfowl, gulls, terns and waders that they are now. The Flashes, because of its saline nature, would be fairly free of peripheral vegetation and would retain much of its attraction to passage birds. However the breeding birds would not fare so well as they do, or at least have done in recent years, if the islands had not been constructed and were not maintained each winter.

All of this I'm sure many people are aware of, but conversations with many visitors over the years have demonstrated that there are also many who are not aware that wetland habitats are transitory in nature and need work to maintain them in an optimum state.

[Duck_Pond]

Couple of shots of the juv black tern - more on my fotopic gallery.

[upstarts1979]

Visited Upton this afternoon firstly at the Moors where the Tuesday work party team have now provided ideal viewing for any early jack snipe in front of the Lapwing hide. Nearly all the vegetated and main islands are now free of overgrown grass etc, so any passage waders should be easily seen. The posts there are regularly used by Kingfishers. The juv Black Tern was the main highlight and a small movement of Swift and Sand martins were the only visible migration.
At the Flashes the Sab's Gull came in at 7.44pm, also there were Black Tern , 7 Common Tern, 1500 BHG's. Waders were a bit thin on the ground with 2 LRP and Ringed Plover, 7 Snipe, 4 Green and 1 Common Sand. and 20 Curlew.
I have opened the sluice to expose more mud as the water level was rising rapidly during the downpoor.
cheers John

[Pam_m]

Couple of shots of the juv black tern - more on my fotopic gallery.

Super images of the Black Tern, Pete! As you say not an easy bird to photograph! You did well! :t:

A great Kingfisher shot from you too, Emma! Wish I had been with you to see it!:t:

[Avesmaster]

Why not just recommend WWT members or non members purchase [B]'The Birds Of Upton Warren', Celebrating 40 years as a Worcestershire Wildlife Trust reserve 1968-2008.

Unfortunately I don't think there are any copies left available, or if there are it is only a few, which the Trust will have; I'll confirm this with Phil Andrews. There are of course the annual reports, there are still a few left for both 2007 & 2008.

Hello,
I've only been able to go to Upton Warren quite recently since another birder started taking me, and that was after many of the copies of this report had been snapped up. Having not yet heard from Worcs Wildlife Trust about the availability of this publication, I'd be interested to know what you confirm. Thanks.

Matt

[gareth_blockley]

Had a quick visit to the Flashes at 08:30 this morning between jobs but the Sabines Gull had departed. Any ideas where it is going through the day - any tips or anything nearby?
On the Flashes I saw 2 Green sand, 1 Ringed plover and three Snipe. Also saw Blue tits eating Black berries which I have never seen before.

Also just of interest but not at Upton (sorry John) near Cutnall green (c.SO872679) I have seen what I believe is a White Crow on two occasions. I only think it is a Crow as I have only seen it whilst driving and when I stop it diaspears. Fairly interesting looking.


Gareth

[midlands birder]

hi gareth
nobody has found where the sabines is feeding which is a shame,recently it has been spending more time at upton,leaving later,ariving earlier which could sudgest it is feeding closer,but as some gull range up to 50 miles for food it could be some distance away.it tends to fly off north and i suppose most sites north of here have been checked.being a palagnic bird i assume it would be feeding at a reseviour or lake,and ive never heard of a sabines on a tip,could be something to do with how much time at sea,for all we know it could be feeding on the sea,it would explain why nobody has seen it on it daytime area!!
that gives us something to think about:-O;)

[upstarts1979]

Had a quick visit to the Flashes at 08:30 this morning between jobs but the Sabines Gull had departed. Any ideas where it is going through the day - any tips or anything nearby?
On the Flashes I saw 2 Green sand, 1 Ringed plover and three Snipe. Also saw Blue tits eating Black berries which I have never seen before.
Gareth

Hi Gareth there are records of Sab's Gulls following the plough as Midland birder pointed out all the reservoirs and tips have been checked. Maybe worth finding ploughed fields? It tends to come in alone or with very few other BHG's. Whether that is because it has found a secret feeding area or it is bullied by BHG's and follows them in to roost we'll probably never know.
Cheers John

[midlands birder]

Hi Gareth there are records of Sab's Gulls following the plough as Midland birder pointed out all the reservoirs and tips have been checked. Maybe worth finding ploughed fields? It tends to come in alone or with very few other BHG's. Whether that is because it has found a secret feeding area or it is bullied by BHG's and follows them in to roost we'll probably never know.
Cheers John

when i first saw it on sat 22nd it came in with about 50+ BHG's but this is the only time it was watched flying in as it from then on was found on the edge of a BHG flock(something weird that it never goes into a BHG flock always on the edge,maybe your right about it gets bullied by BHG's)so maybe it comes in on its own when everybody is watching big flocks flying in
anybody know of any ploughed fields?
ive even checked the stourport baisins for it as it always flys off in a N/NW direction!!;)
now all i hope for from upton is some good waders,its funny,wader passage and the last 5 birds added to my upton list arnt waders but gulls,crakes and egrets:-O:t: but still all good
MB

[midlands birder]

i have posted 2 videos on youtube of the sabine if anybodys interested there under the name 'sabine's gull in worcester' and 'sabine's gull in worcester 2',great names arnt they:-O;)
MB
as usual the youtube videos have gone blurred check them out when on my blog for better quality.

[upstarts1979]

now all i hope for from upton is some good waders,its funny,wader passage and the last 5 birds added to my upton list arnt waders but gulls,crakes and egrets:-O:t: but still all good
MB
Hi Craig over the years the habitat for waders in autumn at the Flashes as mostly been ideal. But we do get a bit disappointed when they never materialise. As you know there is a good list of waders seen over the years. Maybe the size of the flashes is a limiting factor. However there are a few waders that I would like to think could turn up at this time of year such as Yanks :- Lesser Yellowlegs , Long Billed Dowitcher, white rumped Sandpiper or a bairds sand. . Don't forget we have had a few Pectoral sandpipers and a Least Sandpiper and a couple of Wilson' Phalaropes. So we live in hope.
Cheers John

[midlands birder]

Hi Craig over the years the habitat for waders in autumn at the Flashes as mostly been ideal. But we do get a bit disappointed when they never materialise. As you know there is a good list of waders seen over the years. Maybe the size of the flashes is a limiting factor. However there are a few waders that I would like to think could turn up at this time of year such as Yanks :- Lesser Yellowlegs , Long Billed Dowitcher, white rumped Sandpiper or a bairds sand. . Don't forget we have had a few Pectoral sandpipers and a Least Sandpiper and a couple of Wilson' Phalaropes. So we live in hope.
Cheers John

i wouldent mind seeing any of these,another sudgestion is buff breasted sand or spotted sand or even closer to home kentish plover.dont remind me of the wilsons phal.i (well my dad) was driving up the A38(before i knew upton was there) on the day the wilsons phal was found and i saw loads of twitchers running(yes running) away from there cars.i asked to stop but my dad didnt and it was only a few hours after i heard about what was there,but of cause it dissapeared before i could get there(which i never did untill a year ago)
wasent we doing this with the spotted crake last time;););)
MB

[upstarts1979]

Hi Craig
I'm going to have a good try this Saturday as this is peak time and a lot of yanks are scattered around the country. Saying that there are all sorts of non-waders about as well.
Cheers John

[midlands birder]

Hi Craig
I'm going to have a good try this Saturday as this is peak time and a lot of yanks are scattered around the country. Saying that there are all sorts of non-waders about as well.
Cheers John

i will be joining you in the evening then,dont be affraid to ask if you see someone like me there,see you there.
lets get the yanks(and the sab gull)
MB

[Avesmaster]

anybody know of any ploughed fields?


Yes, the field along Norton Lane that you watch has recently been ploughed!

Matt

[midlands birder]

Yes, the field along Norton Lane that you watch has recently been ploughed!

Matt

we have to cut the conifer hedge on the front garden there this week,so i can watch it all day(untill i go to upton:-O)
MB

[Sy V]

Well, well, well!
When I first joined the forum earlier this year, I kept checking out the listings for an active section about Upton Warren, but to no avail.
So I started my blog. Now it appears that someone's grabbed the reins - well done.

SJV

[Reader]

I went very early this morning to Upton Warren after the Sab's Gull (05.30am to just after 7am) but unfortunately it was not there so off I went to Grimley New Workings.

I managed to get a couple of shots (heavily cropped) of the juvenile Black Tern that was there.

What I wasn't expecting to see was a Leucistic Martin (probably a Sand Martin as it seemed to be flying with them rather than the House Martins).

I managed two very distant photos of the bird (about 100+ yards away) so they have been heavily cropped. They are poor quality because of the distance away from me but at least you can see the bird.

Has anyone else ever seen a Leucistic Martin or Swallow?

John

[upstarts1979]

I went very early this morning to Upton Warren after the Sab's Gull (05.30am to just after 7am) but unfortunately it was not there so off I went to Grimley New Workings.

I managed to get a couple of shots (heavily cropped) of the juvenile Black Tern that was there.

What I wasn't expecting to see was a Leucistic Martin (probably a Sand Martin as it seemed to be flying with them rather than the House Martins).

I managed two very distant photos of the bird (about 100+ yards away) so they have been heavily cropped. They are poor quality because of the distance away from me but at least you can see the bird.

Has anyone else ever seen a Leucistic Martin or Swallow?
John

Hi John
Not seen that leucistic bird or heard any reports. Will look out for it tomorrow.
Good shots of black tern.
cheers John

[upstarts1979]

Well, well, well!
When I first joined the forum earlier this year, I kept checking out the listings for an active section about Upton Warren, but to no avail.
So I started my blog. Now it appears that someone's grabbed the reins - well done.

SJV

Hi Simon
not seen you on the early Saturday morning shift recently.
Yes your hard work starting the upton blog might not be in vain. Is it possible for you to transfer all your upton stuff or the initial recording sectors etc. It seems a pity all that work going to waste. And also your habitat photos are worth putting on this site. To give non-upton birders a feel for the place
cheers John

[senatore]

I went very early this morning to Upton Warren after the Sab's Gull (05.30am to just after 7am) but unfortunately it was not there so off I went to Grimley New Workings.

I managed to get a couple of shots (heavily cropped) of the juvenile Black Tern that was there.

What I wasn't expecting to see was a Leucistic Martin (probably a Sand Martin as it seemed to be flying with them rather than the House Martins).

I managed two very distant photos of the bird (about 100+ yards away) so they have been heavily cropped. They are poor quality because of the distance away from me but at least you can see the bird.

Has anyone else ever seen a Leucistic Martin or Swallow?

John

Hi John,
Must have just missed you at UW.Well by about 4 hours.No wonder I didn't see it.


ax.

[senatore]

Went to UW today and started off at the Moors pools.

The Black Tern was performing well but was it was as hard as ever to get a decent shot.The KF turned up and started fishing but my attempts to get a fishing shot were pathetic and my collection of empty water shots is bigger then ever.Did see a strange Goose (a very rare bird or a hybrid ????).

At lunchtime I went to the Flashes hoping that because it was a Friday the Sabines Gull would finish early and come into the roost -- no chance!!!!!

The usual suspects were about incl. Common and Green Sandpipers,a Common Snipe,a few Redshanks and a Little-ringed Plover.A Hobby flew through and 40+ Curlews were in their usual spot a few of which ventured a bit nearer the hide.Also saw a Linnet showing some blue streaks on it's chest - Is this unusual?

Max.

[wmtlynx]

Hi everybody,
Just a quick question. How do I find out who is and more importantly who isn't, a warden at upton warren? Have been a few times and normally buy permits from the education centre. Went sometime last month and that was shut, on entry in the morning and in the afternoon when I left. However, I did feel guilty not being able to pay - so in future who do I ask for?

Thanks in advance!

Steve

[Sy V]

I believe (although I may be wrong) that the only 'official warden' is Arthur. He's a glorious elderly gentleman whose time is consumed these day visiting his wife who has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. I feel no guilt about making this statement having lost my mother to this god-awful disease.
That said, the reserve is blessed with a hard-core of regulars who would be only to happy to take your payment and ensure that it ends up in the right coffer tin.

[wmtlynx]

Thanks Sy,

I'll more than likely send off for membership of the Worcestershire Wildlife Trust at some point soon, to support the reserve properly, but if I turn up at UW before then, I shall know what to do.

Cheers for the gen!
Regards,
Steve

[upstarts1979]

Went to UW today and started off at the Moors pools.



The usual suspects were about incl. Common and Green Sandpipers,a Common Snipe,a few Redshanks and a Little-ringed Plover.A Hobby flew through and 40+ Curlews were in their usual spot a few of which ventured a bit nearer the hide.Also saw a Linnet showing some blue streaks on it's chest - Is this unusual?

Max.
Hi Senator I notice you said a few redshanks - we haven't had any for a few weeks how many were there only its a good record this time of year.
Thanks John

[upstarts1979]

Senatore thats what you call an action shot of the Kingfisher. The goose has a bit of greylag and canada in it there are a couple of other 'smeggy' looking geese around.
cheers john

[Reader]

There were three Redshanks when I was there this morning plus two LRP's and at least 6 Green Sandpipers as well.

John

Hi Senator I notice you said a few redshanks - we haven't had any for a few weeks how many were there only its a good record this time of year.
Thanks John

[upstarts1979]

There were three Redshanks when I was there this morning plus two LRP's and at least 6 Green Sandpipers as well.

John
Thanks for that John just to keep our records straight. Many reports do not get put in the log book ..sometimes because people don't always carry a pen.
cheers John

[Pam_m]

The KF turned up and started fishing but my attempts to get a fishing shot were pathetic and my collection of empty water shots is bigger then ever.
Max.

I reckon that is a super Kingfisher image, Max! Certainly not pathetic! Sounds like a good day you had at Upton!:t:

[Dean Powell]

On the issue of entance fee's it might be a good idea to put up an honesty box in a stategic location (s) so that non members can put their money in. This works well on some reserves. Above the box a card could be set with the entrance fee's stated.

Given that we are currently in recession it might also be a good idea to offer a concession.

Happy Birding

Dean:t:

[Sy V]

Dean

A fine idea for the Flashes, but given the evidence of undesirable activity I've recently witnessed on the eastern Moors pool hide early on Saturday mornings, maybe not as good an idea for there!
Right, up and at 'em - I'm off down the Flashes and ringing at Grimley tomorrow.

SJV

[StarainBoy]

Upton Warren today saw a stream of swallows, house martins and sand martins pushing their way back to Africa. Hobbies seemed to be following: one perched obligingly by the Moors Pool and darted out for insects. Another laboured over the hide with some unidentifiable feathered victim in its talons.

Birds of prey, in general, appeared to be on the move, too. I saw several buzzards, one of which looked distinctly osprey-like with long, straight, fingered wings. The light was appalling and I was trying to see through trees, so I had to write it off as yet another that got away. I heard later that a marsh harrier had passed at about that time but I would never have put my bird down as any sort of harrier.

No rarities, then. But some damn fine birds all the same.

[senatore]

Hi Senator I notice you said a few redshanks - we haven't had any for a few weeks how many were there only its a good record this time of year.
Thanks John

Hi John,

I and two other birders saw three, two at the back near where the Curlews usually are and one to the right of the hide in one of the channels which appeared to have a bad leg (the bird not the channel).

Max.

[Sy V]

Myself and John witnessed the breaking up of the Flashes roost and a glorious sunrise this morning. We also saw a hobby perched atop one of the reserve fences - when I left at about 11:00 I think the all-dayers were up to about 62 species seen at both pools.
I'm going to process my species shots later, but here are some scenery/mood pictures (none of these have been 'doctored', just resized from RAW for posting).

SJV

[Avesmaster]

Also saw a Linnet showing some blue streaks on it's chest - Is this unusual?

Max.

Could it be colour-marked with dye, an alternative to ringing?

Matt

[upstarts1979]

Upton Warren today saw a stream of swallows, house martins and sand martins pushing their way back to Africa. Hobbies seemed to be following: one perched obligingly by the Moors Pool and darted out for insects. Another laboured over the hide with some unidentifiable feathered victim in its talons.

Birds of prey, in general, appeared to be on the move, too. I saw several buzzards, one of which looked distinctly osprey-like with long, straight, fingered wings. The light was appalling and I was trying to see through trees, so I had to write it off as yet another that got away. I heard later that a marsh harrier had passed at about that time but I would never have put my bird down as any sort of harrier.

No rarities, then. But some damn fine birds all the same.

Hi Starin
Have you any details on the marsh Harrier time etc. Only a handful of us were on the reserve most of the day
cheers John

[upstarts1979]

Started at 5.30am (simon) until 8.10pm (Me)
A very evocative start at the Flashes with at least 2500 birds (mostly wildfowl and gulls) gathered in a noisey throng prior to leaving their roost.
By 6.30am most had departed leaving the few remaining waders - Green Sand (6), LRP, and 180 Lapwing also there were 44 Teal and 23 Shoveler and an early rising Hobby perched on the perimeter fence.
As the sun rose viewing was difficult over the pools, so we concentrated on the hedgerow and weedy strip to the right of the hide. The sun at this time enticing passerines to go insect hunting along the hedge which included 3 Whitethroat and 5 chiffchaff amongst the tit flock whilst a flock of at least 80 Goldfinches fed on the thistles. A yellow wagtail and 3 Meadow pipits were in the field behind the hide. Other migrants include a single swift, plenty of Sand martin, House Martin and 15 swallows all heading south.
Peregrine Raven, Willow Warbler and a fly over coal tit at the Moors were the highlights until the Bittern appeared in front of the concrete hide.
A full 12 hours after the start we returned to the Flashes where a Dunlin had appeared and once again the night time roost began to form. The Curlews peaked at 39 and 1900 BHG's gathered. Most obvious migrants was the large flock of more than 150 swallows frantically feeding on the masse of hatching insects for ten minutes before rapidly moving south.
The day come to a close and 75 poss 76 species were listed
Cheers John

[StarainBoy]

Hi Starin
Have you any details on the marsh Harrier time etc. Only a handful of us were on the reserve most of the day
cheers John

The bird I saw would have been about 11.30, which roughly tallied with the time that the unknown harrier-observer was mentioning.

[senatore]

Could it be colour-marked with dye, an alternative to ringing?

Matt

Could be.It certainly was an unusual site and caused a lot of discussion in the hide.

Max.

[Emma]

Had a super visit to Upton Warren today!! We were lucky enough to view the Bittern out and about in front of the Bittern hide for just over 20 minutes....we couldn't believe it!!! My Mom (Pam_m) initially spotted the Bittern launch itself from one set of reed beds to another left to right over the channel, it must have been watching the fish that were very active seemingly jumping out of the water for insects! About 5 mins later we were lucky enough to view the Bittern move from the right side of the reeds, across the front of the hide and past the cage feeder before flying off past the Water Rail hide and in to the reeds! This was our best sighting of the Bittern yet and it was really interesting to see its different mannerisms and beautiful plumage! As luck had it a Kingfisher had landed on the perch just before the Bittern appeared and at one point it was almost as if the two birds were looking at each other, as you can see in my pic below!!

Also saw the Hobby over the Moors and it was also nice to see the smaller birds back around the feeders!

Went to the Flashes later on but it was fairly quiet with the usual suspects out on the water!

[midlands birder]

Had a super visit to Upton Warren today!! We were lucky enough to view the Bittern out and about in front of the Bittern hide for just over 20 minutes....we couldn't believe it!!! My Mom (Pam_m) initially spotted the Bittern launch itself from one set of reed beds to another left to right over the channel, it must have been watching the fish that were very active seemingly jumping out of the water for insects! About 5 mins later we were lucky enough to view the Bittern move from the right side of the reeds, across the front of the hide and past the cage feeder before flying off past the Water Rail hide and in to the reeds! This was our best sighting of the Bittern yet and it was really interesting to see its different mannerisms and beautiful plumage! As luck had it a Kingfisher had landed on the perch just before the Bittern appeared and at one point it was almost as if the two birds were looking at each other, as you can see in my pic below!!

Also saw the Hobby over the Moors and it was also nice to see the smaller birds back around the feeders!

Went to the Flashes later on but it was fairly quiet with the usual suspects out on the water!


no bloody way,i spent an hour and a half looking for him(of her) on saterday but no sign,but what great photos.
my birds were the same as johns for sat,were you the one that called the huge load of swallows over the reedbed at the flashes.
but had 2 hobby's at the moors which gave good views as they crossed the reedbed in front of the bittern hide one flew off north and the other lnded somewhere in the ed.reserve.also 9 greylag geese flew over the moors twice and then landed on the 3rd flash at c8:40(but it doesent beat the huge nomber of 18 we had on 13/06/09 on the sailing pool/flashes)
MB

[upstarts1979]

my birds were the same as johns for sat,were you the one that called the huge load of swallows over the reedbed at the flashes.MB

Yes Craig that was the largest flock of swallows I've seen for years. Did you come into the hide with your dad about 7pmm disappointing on the wader front still. With the amount of of roving tit flocks on the reserve I spent a bit more time than I would normally do finding most of the warblers this way. Something we should do more often looking for the rarer passerines.

Emmas your views and good pictures of the bittern were exactly how the Bittern performed for us the day before. The bird appearing at about 1pm then over the next hour or so worked its way to the sluice area reed bed
cheers John

[midlands birder]

Yes Craig that was the largest flock of swallows I've seen for years. Did you come into the hide with your dad about 7pmm disappointing on the wader front still. With the amount of of roving tit flocks on the reserve I spent a bit more time than I would normally do finding most of the warblers this way. Something we should do more often looking for the rarer passerines.

Emmas your views and good pictures of the bittern were exactly how the Bittern performed for us the day before. The bird appearing at about 1pm then over the next hour or so worked its way to the sluice area reed bed
cheers John

yes that was me.just look for the dark blue anorack i always wear(got a rip under left arm,quite visible,but its lucky amd has helped me get a lot of good stuff)
i spent about 20 mins staring into a tit flock along the path to the west hide,tons of birds in there but nothing really amazing,sorry but did anyone mention the common tern which me and my dad first 'found' at the moors then later roosted at the flashes,im sure i saw a meadow pipit on the field but the views were bad and into the light,nice with the yellow wag,havent got it on my upton list yet.
MB
well the bittern wasent seen at the sluice area from 5pm untill 6:45 when having seen a water rail,good views and the hobbys we went to the flashes to note not much more i'd say but a huge number of b h gulls even more flew in after you left putting the flock over 2000:-O
a bit of extra news a swift was seen over the moors,not huge but a noteworth bird for september

[midlands birder]

Hi John
Not seen that leucistic bird or heard any reports. Will look out for it tomorrow.
Good shots of black tern.
cheers John

i'd say the structure is sand martin and a lewistic sand martin was seen at grimley
MBo:D

[Pam_m]

Had a super visit to Upton Warren today!! We were lucky enough to view the Bittern out and about in front of the Bittern hide for just over 20 minutes....we couldn't believe it!!! My Mom (Pam_m) initially spotted the Bittern launch itself from one set of reed beds to another left to right over the channel, it must have been watching the fish that were very active seemingly jumping out of the water for insects! About 5 mins later we were lucky enough to view the Bittern move from the right side of the reeds, across the front of the hide and past the cage feeder before flying off past the Water Rail hide and in to the reeds! This was our best sighting of the Bittern yet and it was really interesting to see its different mannerisms and beautiful plumage! As luck had it a Kingfisher had landed on the perch just before the Bittern appeared and at one point it was almost as if the two birds were looking at each other, as you can see in my pic below!!

Also saw the Hobby over the Moors and it was also nice to see the smaller birds back around the feeders!

Went to the Flashes later on but it was fairly quiet with the usual suspects out on the water!

Wonderful views of a very confiding Bittern we had, Emma!:t: Love the images you took today, especially the Kingfisher and Bittern photo! Not often the two birds could be captured together in one photo I would imagine!

Glad you didn't add the pic of 'Ratty' in the cage feeder!o:D

[midlands birder]

Wonderful views of a very confiding Bittern we had, Emma!:t: Love the images you took today, especially the Kingfisher and Bittern photo! Not often the two birds could be captured together in one photo I would imagine!

Glad you didn't add the pic of 'Ratty' in the cage feeder!o:D

that stupid thing was there on sat too,anyone got a bb gun:-O,ill volentere to 'put it down':smoke:,we will proberbly need a silencer too so not to scare the bittern i want to see him next weeks:t:
MB

[Duck_Pond]

Fabulous shots of the bittern Emma :clap: Not envious at all... *cough*

[senatore]

Great Bittern shots Emma.I'm very jealous!!!!1

Max

[Emma]

Thank you all for your kind comments about our Bittern sighting yesterday, we were absolutely amazed to see it out in the open for so long! Thanks to my Mum as well for reminding me that the Kingfisher was also there and prompting me to take a piccie of both birds together!!:t:

Pete & Max, you would both have been in your element yesterday with the close encounter with the Upton Bittern!! Just imagine the brill pics you would have got with your cameras!!;)o:D

[Sy V]

I think I'm right in stating that there's an Upton Warren work party scheduled for later this month.
If so, is it our/your intention to post the timings, intentions and perhaps rendezvous place on the Forum?
Speaking to Fergus Henderson and now knowing what reed beds have been ringed in the past for Cetti's, there is considerable thinning/coppicing to be done if that area is to be used again for similar success.
Fergus is a busy man, and I know that those of you who know him, would welcome him if I could get him to come up and visit to coincide with a future work party. It would be nice to see if our joint plans (maintenance and ringing) could be amended to work together and pull in the same direction... what are the thoughts of the UW hardcore/wardens?

[upstarts1979]

I think I'm right in stating that there's an Upton Warren work party scheduled for later this month.
If so, is it our/your intention to post the timings, intentions and perhaps rendezvous place on the Forum?
Speaking to Fergus Henderson and now knowing what reed beds have been ringed in the past for Cetti's, there is considerable thinning/coppicing to be done if that area is to be used again for similar success.
Fergus is a busy man, and I know that those of you who know him, would welcome him if I could get him to come up and visit to coincide with a future work party. It would be nice to see if our joint plans (maintenance and ringing) could be amended to work together and pull in the same direction... what are the thoughts of the UW hardcore/wardens?

Hi Simon
Yes there are work parties later this and early next month.
Both are being held at the Flashes 9.30 start. meet at sailing car park
1st:- Sunday 27th September work will include clearing feeding station area and if time allows work on the scrapes removing phragmites from the muddy wader habitat.
This work party has been added because some of the regulars are going to the Scillies in early October and would miss the usual work party on the 1st Sunday in the month.
2nd:- Sunday 4th October this work party will start work on the creation of a new shingle island. to provide breeding opportunities for LRP's Avocet and lapwing. The work will involve wheelbarrowing the pathing slabs from the steps, constructing the island (sited to the left of the main 'spit' in 50 yards in front of the main hide. Strimming the long grass and other tasks will be carried out - dependent on the number of people.

Regarding the Cettis habitat....we will discuss with the Moors work party what Fergus has said I know what he means. If I see you on Saturday AM will get more details off you or post on here ....no worries
cheers John

[Sy V]

Thanks for the info, John.
Missed you this morning. The Flashes were trying hard not to be the most awe inspiring place in the world again, today... and failing in spades!

[midlands birder]

well upton on saturday was quiet,and i mean quiet,the cetti's warblers were singing again and we saw a smipe on the moors from the west hide,a few willow warblers and a juv pheasant.spent about an hour and a half waiting for the bittern to show or even just a water rail but non shown.at the flashes to say i got distracted was a bit of an understatement,just have a look at this pair:t:
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a bit better at the flashes 1 dunlin(doing its best to hide behind the BHG's at the back of the flash),7 green sand,1 redshank,25+curlew,6 snipe and a kingfisher on the brook.
a quiet week to say the least:-C
MB

[upstarts1979]

well upton on saturday was quiet,and i mean quiet,
a quiet week to say the least:-C
MB

Yes Craig. A real quiet time at moment. If its any consolation there was an air of expectancy on the east coast this weekend all to no avail. Several birders spending all day in the field - so if they're getting nothing not much hope for us, although predictions for this coming week seem better with the possibility of rain. Keep checking the hedgerows
cheers John

[midlands birder]

Yes Craig. A real quiet time at moment. If its any consolation there was an air of expectancy on the east coast this weekend all to no avail. Several birders spending all day in the field - so if they're getting nothing not much hope for us, although predictions for this coming week seem better with the possibility of rain. Keep checking the hedgerows
cheers John

what headgerows,im at school in dudley untill friday where i move back to worcester with my dad,
there's a booted warbler at spurn(good enough for me)(sorry upton fourum)
isnt it time for a glossy ibis to join the curlews,i dout we'll mind that.
the aston martin was my consilation prize(my dream car)
MB

[Emma]

Had a quick visit to the Moors Pools this afternoon, from the Water Rail hide we had super views of 4 Little Grebes which were quite happy mingling with the Canada Geese, Mallards, Shovellers, Swans and Coots who were all surprisingly colse to the reeds near the hide! We also had a quick view of a Water Rail darting across the water to the reeds! On the other side of the pool the Kingfisher was feeding merrily away and the whole pool livened up by the appearance of 2 Hobbies!! There also seemed to be more dragonflies out and about today in front of the hide meaning that a quick hours visit to the Moors was really productive!!

[Duck_Pond]

I'm guessing that was you MB, who arrived with your dad, on Sat in the Bittern Hide? I had to leave as I was already late...

Nice Aston - one of the new V12 ones, isn't it? Some folks just have way too much money. :-C

[midlands birder]

yeah it is an aston martin vantage RS,wery nice(by the way i didnt even think they were lunched in the uk yet)
yeah that was me,i figured it was you when brian(you know the one who owns the yellow car to the right of the aston) said he didnt know your name but said he knew you took the pic of the avocet on the upton warren leafet,from that i knew it was you(you was braggin about it on your blog:-O:-O:-O,and dont forget the book cover,or back,im not sure:-O),nice to see you there,did you even lift your camera for anything,i only lifted mine for when all the lapwings took off while in the 'spider' hide.(oh and for the aston)
MB
emma,we noticed quite a large amount of dragonflys on sat too, maybe a late hatch out:t:

[Duck_Pond]

Nowt wrong with mentioning one's achievements in public; I don't get many in general. And no, I didn't take a single shot. Was quiet there on both days over the weekend. Bit of a change from all the excitement of late.

Draycote made up for it though. Am I allowed to mention that in here, or will the Sphincter Police arrest me?

[midlands birder]

not knocking you there great photos;),
im sure you can sneek a teeny,tiny bit of draycote in
MB

[upstarts1979]

Had another early start at the Flashes this morning (5.50am).
A fair bit of visible migration involved 60 Meadow Pipit, Wigeon (5), several warblers namely Lesser Whitethroat, Reed and Sedge and several Blackcap also 2 whinchat.
On the wader front the juvenile Little Stint was accompanied by 26 Snipe and 6 Green Sands.
The main event today however was the sheer numbers of passerines in and around the reserve. The 'set a side' north field held a mixed flock which included 50 greenfinch 50+ Goldfinch, 10 Linnet and 15 reed Bunting in the same field there were also at least 50 Stock Dove and several Skylark as well as the meadow pipits. Beyond the sewage works a flock of 200 or so finch types were impossible to identify due to the angle of the sun.

Anyone visiting the Flashes will notice the drop in water levels and the large expanse of mud - this will hopefully attract any late passage waders and also make it easier to gain access to the area where the new shingle island will be constructed.

The work will start next Sunday 27th Sept and continue on Sunday 4th October
If anyone wants to help you will be made most welcome - bring your wellies and gloves, refreshments will be provided.

To those that normally visit on a Sunday apologies for any inconvenience.
cheers John

[midlands birder]

quite a productive saturday at the flashes/sailing pool on saturday, got out the car and at least 30 wagtails were flying around.the wagtails were roosting in the trees between the sailing pool and the car park.when on the south shore i heard a yellow wagatail calling i looked at the flock and saw the yellow wagtail flying into the trees.a water rail was in the hen pool(heard but seen briefly).a showy male kestrel on the dead tree shown well from the path for about 3 mins,
a huge influx of snipe from last week with 20+ noted,a awney owl was seen briefly near the barns,
just as the light started to fade my target poped out from behind the feet of 9 curlew(12+ overall),a little stint(lifer),i remembered a saying from seeing this 'look for some waders then look at the small waders,then look at the tiny bird scuttling around there feet,that is the little stint.it was too dark to get a pic or video as it was when a whinchat shown on the top of a bush.it was nice to be in the hide with just my dad this weekend after the overcrowded time with the sabine's.
it was also nice to see shelduck back at the warren after there absence over the summer
MB

[Duck_Pond]

I had a look around both the Flashes and the Moors yesterday. The Hen Pool hide provided a great aural experience of 2 Cetti's going at it hammer & tong. They're so loud! Also about were water rails (also hiding), sedge and reed warblers, several reed buntings and a chiffchaff / willow warbler, going around with them.

At the back of the Flashes were 3 buzzards, feeding off the ground after the farmer had trundled past in his tractor. On the lake itself were numerous curlews, 4 green sandpipers, plenty of snipe and the usual flocks of lapwings.

Over at the Moors there wasn't much about - apparently there was a pintail, but I couldn't locate it. I did notice a couple of young-looking rats around... can these be trapped and snuffed out? Or will they be heron / bittern food over the winter?

[upstarts1979]

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Over at the Moors there wasn't much about - apparently there was a pintail, but I couldn't locate it. I did notice a couple of young-looking rats around... can these be trapped and snuffed out? Or will they be heron / bittern food over the winter?
Hi Pete
:t:;) all in hand

Did you notice any large flocks of passerines, only on saturday good numbers of finches bunting and meadow pipits(many perched in front of the hide on the fence) were about. Also warblers and thrushes were in the hedgerow on the approach to the hides.
I don't know if its too distant for good pictures but in front of the 2nd flash hide there were good opportinities for pics of snipe, curlew and green sand etc in the morning. I think the light might not be that brilliant first thing though, but in the evenings the birds tend to be a bit more distant
cheers john

[midlands birder]

Hi Pete
:t:;) all in hand

Did you notice any large flocks of passerines, only on saturday good numbers of finches bunting and meadow pipits(many perched in front of the hide on the fence) were about. Also warblers and thrushes were in the hedgerow on the approach to the hides.
I don't know if its too distant for good pictures but in front of the 2nd flash hide there were good opportinities for pics of snipe, curlew and green sand etc in the morning. I think the light might not be that brilliant first thing though, but in the evenings the birds tend to be a bit more distant
cheers john

not the snipe there right in front of the hide+ green sands close too

[Duck_Pond]

Will have to try it early doors one of the days. The water level is a bit low to encourage them over and into the closest channel (now dried up) later on in the day. I've had some decent shots from the first hide in the past, of snipes and water rails, at the edge of the lake.

No large flocks, though I didn't stay at that hide for very long.

[Sy V]

John

I'll have to send my apologies for this Sunday's work party. I'm going out ringing with Fergus.
I am aware that I have the non-running (Husqvarna) strimmer/brush cutter that I'm donating to the cause. Is there anywhere or time that we can meet up between now and then? I have reason for descending upon Redditch in the next few days, if that helps.

Rgds

[upstarts1979]

Hi Simon
thanks for strimmer. sent you an email with my mobile number. Have to get fergus down to upton on work party days - no excuse then:-O
cheers John

[Sy V]

I'll work on him, John.
Although he has asked that I speak to Gordon about cutting some paths/rides into the Moors reedbed where he goes after the Cetti's.
In the meantime, I've just replied to your e-mail and added my mobile number too.

[Brian Stretch]

A new website for Upton Warren has now gone 'live'. This is in direct response to the growing interest in the reserve and to bring together all the photographs, articles and sightings that have been provided to the Worcester Birding website over the past 3 years. More will be added to the site over the coming weeks and months.

Hope you like it: www.uptonwarrenbirding.co.uk

Brian
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www.birdingtoday.co.uk
www.worcesterbirding.co.uk
www.westmidlandsbirding.co.uk

[midlands birder]

A new website for Upton Warren has now gone 'live'. This is in direct response to the growing interest in the reserve and to bring together all the photographs, articles and sightings that have been provided to the Worcester Birding website over the past 3 years. More will be added to the site over the coming weeks and months.

Hope you like it: www.uptonwarrenbirding.co.uk

Brian
___________________________
www.birdingtoday.co.uk
www.worcesterbirding.co.uk
www.westmidlandsbirding.co.uk

love it love it love it, great idea,a site just about my favorite patch, a dream come true,well done brian:t:

[upstarts1979]

Its Brilliant Brian
Something long overdue. We always talked about it but never had the expertise.
cheers John

[Sy V]

Thanks Brian.
It's the dog's danglies!
Are you OK to handle the upkeep? Just wouldn't want your other commitments to suffer. I am in the process of migrating my blog to a new hosting environment. Your new site will allow me to shift my blog's emphasis onto my ringing and more general Worcestershire-based activities.

[Duck_Pond]

It's very nice Brian - needs some more photos from me though ;)

[upstarts1979]

Hi Bri
is there anyway of joining several photos of the Flashes and moors to make a more panoramic view of the Habitats.
cheers John

[midlands birder]

quite a fruitful visit to the moors pool on sat had 3 types of goose(canada,greylag and barnicle)the latter being an upton tick.3 eclipse male wigeon were opposite the hide in a shoveler flock and skirting this flock was the female pintail,3 water rail were heard calling,a snipe showed very well on the bank to the right of the (west) hide,only visited the moors as we arrived with only and hour untill dark,3 cettis were singing,
and still no sign of that bloody bittern,its shown for everybody but me
MB

[Duck_Pond]

Spent a few hours at the Moors today. Watched the bittern fly from left to right (into Amy's Marsh is it?) at about midday, at which point I relocated myself to the east hide in hope of seeing it closer...

No chance. However, did see it fly out at about 3:40pm and head over towards the North Moors pool, though again, I couldn't find it afterwards.

Also saw shovelers, wigeon, 2 x green sandpipers, a common sandpiper, several snipes, 2 kingfishers, a buzzard, a sprawk, a jay, a green and gs woodpecker, loads of teal and a grey wagtail.

Wasn't quite as warm as I'd expected. Brrr!

[upstarts1979]

The 1st phase of the new islandat the Flashes began today.The work involved de - silting the channels in front of the hide and then barrowing it into the water to the site of the island.
This should take the next 2 work parties to complete ( depending on the number of people we get) after this the sluice will be closed and when the rain arrives the water level will rise. At present the water is 7 inches below the normal spring level.

On the bird front today a male Hen Harrier passed through this morning.
After the work party the birds soon returned which included 83 Teal, 41 Shoveler and a pintail also a wigeon flew over, waders include 4 Green Sands and 16 Snipe . The BHG roost is now down to about 750. Water rail, Cettis and chiffchaff were calling late on.
cheers john

[midlands birder]

Spent a few hours at the Moors today. Watched the bittern fly from left to right (into Amy's Marsh is it?) at about midday, at which point I relocated myself to the east hide in hope of seeing it closer...

No chance. However, did see it fly out at about 3:40pm and head over towards the North Moors pool, though again, I couldn't find it afterwards.

Also saw shovelers, wigeon, 2 x green sandpipers, a common sandpiper, several snipes, 2 kingfishers, a buzzard, a sprawk, a jay, a green and gs woodpecker, loads of teal and a grey wagtail.

Wasn't quite as warm as I'd expected. Brrr!

love the bittern photo pete well done:t:,its just those pesky imigrant geese:-O
it has to show soon,when ig finally get it again i will be very happyB (:B (:B (:

[Sy V]

John (et al)

The forecast is or strong westerlies tomorrow, but are we still doing the Flashes dawn (notwithstanding over imbibing this evening) breakfast club thing?

Simon

[timmyjones]

Does anyone have any idea when the work party will finish on sunday roughly?

[Sy V]

Sorry Tim, not sure as I'll be flying out to Germany for the week, on Sunday afternoon.

[upstarts1979]

Does anyone have any idea when the work party will finish on sunday roughly?

there is a lot of work to do so possibly 4.30 pm. If you come and give us a hand we might finish earlier. Could do with some help

Sorry for any inconvenience to anyone visiting but the work is essential and always takes place at this time of year

Dates to avoid at Flashes (if you are not intersested in helping)
1st Sunday in each month October to March inclusive
next one is 1st November

[upstarts1979]

John (et al)

The forecast is or strong westerlies tomorrow, but are we still doing the Flashes dawn (notwithstanding over imbibing this evening) breakfast club thing?

Simon

Hi Sy
went Thursday and early start Sunday. So against my better judgement I will have to miss out tomorrow (wifey! you know what I mean)
A lot of the lads are off to the Scillies tomrrow so it will probably be down to you, keep clicking away, winds look good. Although not easterly wind and rain combination as got to be better than the last few weeks. If you do get a goody give me a call though good luck
cheers john

[Sy V]

OK John, I understand completely. What time do you want me to call you with the mega?

;)

[timmyjones]

there is a lot of work to do so possibly 4.30 pm. If you come and give us a hand we might finish earlier. Could do with some help

Sorry for any inconvenience to anyone visiting but the work is essential and always takes place at this time of year

Dates to avoid at Flashes (if you are not intersested in helping)
1st Sunday in each month October to March inclusive
next one is 1st November

Okay cool I shall see you there. What will I need to bring as i've never been to one before!

[upstarts1979]

Okay cool I shall see you there. What will I need to bring as i've never been to one before!

Hi Timmy
nice one
we will make you welcome bring wellies and work gloves although I will bring some spare ones. I'll bring squash and biscuits
essential will be your bins as we will walk through the reeds dinner time to check for jack snipe and topically look for aquatic warbler (wishful thinking) there is one at salford priors less than 20 miles away so why not.
See you Sunday John

[Sy V]

New recruit - nice one Mr B!

[upstarts1979]

New recruit - nice one Mr B!

Hi Sy
yes with half the lads on the scillies and you off to germany (I've heard some excuses) we welcome anyone interested and willing to help. Just a reminder to some of the older work party members a few years back we had a Red backed shrike during the work party on Oct 3rd 199?. It certainly paid off that day. fingers crossed for this Sunday
cheers John

[upstarts1979]

The strong westerlies didn't bring anything.
On the reserve today Jack Snipe at Moors, 6 Green Sand and 18 Snipe at Flashes
a few meado pipits and grey wags over head otherwise quiet. All gonna happen tomorrow - ye right

[Sy V]

Actually, given the fact that the winds were still increasing as I left at 1000, you may well benefit from them today.
There was one other bird that I didn't make a call on or mention in the log, as I was solo, but I think it was a Harrier of sorts. I only got something on it late as it flew high over the pools from NW to SE.
One of the Grey Wags landed for a split second. Three Juv LBBGs (or are they Herrings) made a complete nuisance of themselves all morning. It was so windy that this Heron that landed on the pipe island couldn't stand up in its normal stance. But, the Snipe (even if my count was a little on the conservative side) were showing well.
BTW, there's a hosepipe ban you know! Can we have our water back please mister?

Here are a few shots from a somewhat non-productive but enjoyable as ever day...

[Sy V]

This is the site of your work today.
I see we're having two new islands, John. The Lapwings seem to be enjoying the unplanned one!

[timmyjones]

Went to my first work party today at Upton and had a lot of fun, we got a lot of work done digging and creating a new island.

Also birding highlights included 2 Jack Snipe, 4 Raven and 2 Siskin over

[upstarts1979]

A great effort at the work party today, thanks to everyone there and especially to the two new members Tim and Dave. (see I told you I wouldn't work you that hard and you lived to tell the tale).

Dug out the two channels that had dried out - now full of water and barrowed to the new island

The Island is now taking shape, a little more work on the levels of the soil and then shingle goes on - should be finished next month. job done

At the Moors this morning everything was singing or calling. Including 3 Water rail, 3 Grey Wagtail, 3 Cettis Warbler , 2 Chiffchaff. As well as Jack Snipe along the west side two Bitterns perched high up the reed stems. Also a couple of swallows

Cheers John

[Duck_Pond]

I saw one of the bitterns in the North Moors pool over the weekend. Got some dodgy pics, though the view was obscured by shrubbery growing above the line of the reeds. Probably be better in the winter when the leaves have gone?

Saturday, it was in there when I arrived, and I saw it before leaving, at about 5pm. Flew towards the hide and into the reeds close to the road. Sunday, we saw it land in the reeds at midday, then it remained hidden until 4pm (yes, I waited that long for the sod to come out again) when it climbed between the patches of reeds, somewhat clumsily!

Also interesting to see the cormorants fishing in the same area, actually swimming into the reeds to catch fish.

Lovely views of the jack snipes on Saturday.

[upstarts1979]

For the photo boys, The curlews were in the field behind the concrete hide on Sunday - very close aswell. Not sure if they were close enough c40 yards for the average lense, but I'm sure some of those bazookas will do the job.
cheers John

[Duck_Pond]

Yeah - saw them as well, but they were a little too far for my lens at the time. They were also seen following the tractor - maybe they have been watching the gulls? ;)

[Sy V]

Well done the workers!
I look forward to seeing the evidence of your toils when I get back from Germany later in the week.
Normal place normal time, Saturday.

[timmyjones]

Hopefully you will be able to see our work, can't wait for a good bird to turn up in timmy's channel!

[midlands birder]

which one is timmys channel?
ill keep a look out there!!