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Ken Tone
Thursday 5th April 2007, 09:51
Tried this on the general 'birds and birding' list but got no response at all. Forgive me for trying again here if you were one of the few who read it before, but I'm doing so in the hope that this is the more appropriate list. If I still get no response, I promise to retire into a cyberspace corner, blushing, and mumbling in embarrassment ;)

I'd never seen this behaviour before this last year .... it almost looks like tool use, the way it/they use the table to hold the seed still. We thought at first it was preparing the seed for its young to eat, but it continued through the winter.

K.

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We are fortunate enough to have a fairly wide range of birds come to our garden feeder. Over the last year I've observed what I thought was one great tit take a sunflower seed from the suspended squirrel-proof feeder, fly up to the tray/ledge of the bird table just above, hold the seed down with its foot on the ridge at the edge of the table and peck away to remove the outer parts of the seed and get to the kernel. It then flies away, presumably to eat this elsewhere, returns and goes through the process again.

Weirdly it still did this when we put sunflower seeds kernels in the feeder!

Today I saw 2 great tits doing this at the same time and realised that the "one" I'd been seeing must have been several different birds, unless one has learnt recently from the first one. But not all the great tits do it. We get large numbers of great tits and blue tits, a couple of coal tits, a few long-tailed and two marsh (I think!) tits as regular visitors, but it is only great tits behaving in this way.

Is this standard, normal behaviour? (I'm still a beginner at this birding lark really.) If so why don't any other tits do this, when they too eat the sunflower seeds?

K.

Euan Buchan
Thursday 5th April 2007, 11:30
Well as a fan of Great Tits I've never seen that sort of behaviour as I've never actually bought sunflower seeds

bristolbirder
Thursday 5th April 2007, 13:24
Not sure if I am missing something here but all the Great Tits, and Blue Tits for that matter, take a black or striped sunflower seed from the feeder to a nearby branch, hold the seed with feet and peck away the outer casing to get to the seed. How else would they do it? Only the finches beaks are large enough to remove the husk in the beak.

Steve

Marmot
Thursday 5th April 2007, 13:26
We have not fed whole sunflowers to the birds and always use sunflower kernals. I have noticed that they either go and eat the seed just a few feet away or go and sit in a tree, but they do hold it down in their foot to do all this.

Ken Tone
Thursday 5th April 2007, 16:02
Not sure if I am missing something here but all the Great Tits, and Blue Tits for that matter, take a black or striped sunflower seed from the feeder to a nearby branch, hold the seed with feet and peck away the outer casing to get to the seed. How else would they do it? Only the finches beaks are large enough to remove the husk in the beak.

Steve

Ok ..so it is standard behaviour then, thanks. But the blue tits in my garden simply hang on and peck at the sunflower seeds in the feeder, in situ. So do nearly all of the great tits. I suppose, to answer your 'how else' question, the seeds are held still in the feeder by the weight of the other food pressing them down so they don't need to hold with feet.

What makes this look so remarkable is the way the great tit(s) and only the great tits, take the seed and place it so carefully on the raised edge of the low rim of the bird table, holding it there, presumably to get a good angle as they peck.

Thanks to all who answered.

K.

bristolbirder
Friday 6th April 2007, 08:31
"But the blue tits in my garden simply hang on and peck at the sunflower seeds in the feeder, in situ."

Hi Ken

Aha, now I see what you mean. The difference with my situation is that the feeders are usually inundated with Greenfinches so the poor old Tits don't get a chance to eat in situ and have to resort to a snatch and grab raid and take the seed to a quieter spot.

Cheers for now,

Steve

Fliblet
Friday 6th April 2007, 14:18
We have a pair of bluetits at the moment, and they seem to be doing similar to what you are describing with sunflower kernels / hearts. I think that, even though they are pre-shelled, there is still an outer membrane which they like to remove.

I see goldfinches doing the same thing but they don't use their feet to help as their bill seems powerful enough to remove the membrane and let it drop before consuming the rest of the kernel, so they just sit on the feeders and stuff themselves! Means I still get some waste on the ground even when feeding sunflower hearts (althought the woodpigeons usually do a good clearing up job!)

Fliblet

Mary Evelyn
Friday 6th April 2007, 15:12
The Tit family here also take to eat elsewhere, unless it is quiet.We have lots of Sparrows,Doves and Starlings as well as Finches so a lot of competition.The Tits don't hang around too long although they are always in a nearby bush or tree and seem to manage to feed well.
The Blue Tits are using our bird house yet again so things can't be too bad for them here and the Great Tits are looking good too.