Bird Word Jumble

[birdman]

Never done anything like this before, so I don't know if it will work, or if it will be too easy or too hard!

Anyway, the following list of 50 (as it happens) words can be combined to make 20 species of bird (according to my list).

All you have to do is combine them into the list of 20.

The only clue I will give at this stage is to say that some of the names are hyphenated, and where so, I have ignored the hyphen and treated the parts as separate words. Does that make sense?

Well let's see how it goes, eh?

AFRICAN, AFRICAN, AMERICAN, BICOLORED, BRIGHT, CAPE, COLLARED, COLLARED, DOVE, FINCH, FINCH, FINCH, FINCH, FLYCATCHER, GRASSHOPPER, GREAT, GREAT, HAWK, HAWK, HOOPOE, LARGE, MEDIUM, PAINTED, PETREL, PETREL, PETREL, QUAIL, ROSEFINCH, RUMPED, SEMICOLLARED, SNIPE, SPARROW, SPARROW, STORM, SWAINSON'S, SWINHOE'S, THRUSH, THRUSH, THRUSH, TREE, TREE, TREE, UNICOLORED, VERDE, WARBLER, WARBLER, WARBLER, WILSON'S, YELLOW, YELLOW

[alan_rymer]

Birdman

I feel I must have got about four right, but the rest seem to fit!.
I seem to have picked up an extra species somehow!.
I blame Darwin!. :cool:


AFRICAN FINCH
AFRICAN THRUSH FINCH
AMERICAN FINCH
BICOLORED FINCH
BRIGHT PAINTED FLYCATCHER
CAPE HAWK WARBLER
COLLARED DOVE
COLLARED HOOPOE
WILSON'S PETREL
YELLOW RUMPED SNIPE
YELLOW UNICOLORED TREE THRUSH
GRASSHOPPER WARBLER
GREAT HAWK
GREAT QUAIL
LARGE TREE SPARROW
MEDIUM TREE ROSEFINCH
SEMICOLLARED VERDE THRUSH
STORM PETREL
SWAINSON'S WARBLER
SWINHOE'S SPARROW
TREE PETREL8-P

[Charles Harper]

You win, Alan...

[dennis]

I can't stop laughing. I had 11 species writen down when these answers appeared......none of them are listed above! Guess it wouldn't have worked out if I would have continued.

dennis

[Nancy]

I didn't get any right but am seriously confused by Charles Harper's latest photograph.
Have you been drinking the "Elixor of Youth" or is it just less hair on the chin and a fancy hat? I liked you the other way with your
Sea-fowls' loudness... etc. Reminded me a bit of "The Ancient Mariner", though not suggesting that you are or even appeared to be, ancient.

[Charles Harper]

Sorry, Steve wanted me to advertise the BF hat. He promised me a discount on the South African trip BF will be promoting...

[Kalamazoo Ken]

OK, I'm stumped! 23 of the 50 words are nouns (dove, finch, etc.) so obviously some of them have to be combined. I've found a quail-thrush, but the only other thing I can think of is "sparrowhawk" which is really one word, not hyphenated in any source I've seen. And if I combine both sparrows with both hawks, so as to get 20 nouns, I've got a problem with "bicolored." Can you give a hint?

[birdman]

Firstly, let me welcome you, Ken, on behalf of the Moderators and Admin to BirdForum.

If you pop over to "Say Hello" and post a few lines about yourself, you're sure to get some more welcomes.

Clues...

OK

1. Alan... I'm afraid you got a big fat Zero!
2. You are right, Ken, that Sparrowhawk is not hyphenated (in my source either), and so would count as a single word. And as it isn't in the the list...
3. You are also right, Ken, that some must be combined... good spot!
4. There is one geographic name that is easier to equate to species than the others (I reckon).
5. There are no single-name species.
6. The "LARGE" and the "MEDIUM" are otherwise the same.
7. Knowing what I do about dennis, I expect his 11 were probably right!

[alan_rymer]

Birdman

You mean
GRASSHOPPER WARBLER
COLLARED DOVE
WILSON'S PETREL
STORM PETREL
SWAINSON'S WARBLER

Arn't real birds, or , not in the original list of birds that you split?.

[dennis]

OK Birdman.

Would Cape Verde Petrel and Painted Quail Thrush be on the list?

dennis

[birdman]

Not in the answer list, Alan.

I'm quite prepared for someone to come up with a different list of 20 birds though!

You might want to have a bit of a of a rethink on 2 and 3 three though... getting perilously close to a start (and I reckon if you get the right 4 or 5, the others will just about fall into place... mind you, I've got the answers!!!)

[Kalamazoo Ken]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my sources show Cape Verde ISLAND Petrel, so I'm assuming that's not one of the correct birds.

[dennis]

Hi Ken,

Not in Clements' "Birds of the World, a Checklist". It is listed there as Cape Verde Petrel.

dennis

[birdman]

Missed your last post as we hit at the same time, dennis, but yes, and yes!

(Ken, one of the dangers of so many lists, I guess... just wait till you see my anagrams!!!)

[seb_seb]

Has Swainson got a hawk also?

[Kalamazoo Ken]

Thanks Dennis! I don't have Clements' list, so I'm a bit handicapped I guess. Next question: Is Quailfinch hyphenated or not in the "authoritative" list?
And I'd love to see your anagrams, Birdman! I'm a bit of a cryptic crossword fan, so the3 prospect of combining birds and anagrams intrigues me.

[Michael W]

Yes, there is a Swainson's Hawk. Though I don't know if it's the answer. There is also a Swainson's Thrush.

Michael

[dennis]

Quailfinch is not hyphenated.

[Kalamazoo Ken]

Birdman --
OK, here goes: I'm sure I'm missing something, because I have 21 birds, and had to add an extra "great," but this is the best I could do with what I have on hand:
1. African Collared-Dove
2. Bright-Rumped Yellow-Finch
3. Large Tree-Finch
4. Medium Tree-finch
5. Warbler Finch
6. Yellow Flycatcher
7. Bicolored Hawk
8. Semicollared Hawk
9. African Hoopoe
10. Cape Verde Petrel
11. Collared Petrel
12. Swinhoe's Storm-Petrel
13. Great Rosefinch
14. Great Snipe
15. American Tree Sparrow
16. Grasshopper Sparrow
17. Unicolored Thrush
18. Painted Quail-Thrush
19. Swainson's Warbler
20. Wilson's Warbler
21. Great Thrush

I'll be really interested to see the real list!

Thanks for the fun!

[robinm]

OK. This is my go:

CAPE VERDE PETREL
MEDIUM TREE-FINCH
PAINTED QUAIL-THRUSH
BRIGHT-RUMPED YELLOW-FINCH
LARGE TREE-FINCH
BICOLORED HAWK
SEMICOLLARED HAWK
UNICOLORED THRUSH
SWINHOE'S STORM-PETREL
COLLARED PETREL
AFRICAN COLLARED-DOVE
GREAT ROSEFINCH
SWAINSON'S THRUSH
GREAT SNIPE
AFRICAN HOOPOE
WILSON'S WARBLER
AMERICAN TREE SPARROW
GRASSHOPPER SPARROW
WARBLER FINCH
YELLOW FLYCATCHER-WARBLER

I've got 20 and used all the words!

[Kalamazoo Ken]

Robin --

Aha! I was using the "Traditonal List" on my Thayer's software, and the Yellow Flycatcher-Warbler (Chloropeta natalensis) is listed there as African Yellow Warbler. Cross-checking with Sibley's, I found it, and obviously that solves the difficulty. Thanks -- I'll be more diligent to cross reference next time!

Grace and peace -- Ken

[robinm]

Thanks Ken. What I really want to know is whether my list is the same as birdman's!

[birdman]

Ken,

17 out of 20 plus one spare! Keep your eyes peeled... I can feel some anagrams coming on! (At least with those, I know what I'm dealing with!)

Robin,

16 out of 20... but... and I KNEW this would happen... you've got 20 valid species, so moral victory to you.

(Well I said it was the first time I'd tried something like this. I'll have to be more careful next time)

Here's where you outdid me...

Great Snipe - Swinhoe's Snipe
Swinhoe's Storm-Petrel - Wilson's Storm-Petrel
Wilson's Warbler - Swainson's Warbler
Swainson's Thrush - Great Thrush

(I'll tighten things up for next time!)

[robinm]

I enjoyed the challenge - it was better than working!.

I don't know how you would avoid the multiple answers without a lot of work - Swainson et al have a lot to answer for.

[alan_rymer]

Ken and Robin

Well done!. I am impressed!.

Birdman

Your'e a devious B.

Alan

[birdman]

Originally posted by robinm
Swainson et al have a lot to answer for.
I knew they'd be trouble!

Originally posted by alan_rymer
Your'e a devious B.
3:-) I do my best ;)