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gmax
Tuesday 12th June 2007, 13:46
Hello,
summer is getting close, the right time for the announcement of new Canon Camera models.
As a matter of fact, 18 months are the usual time range (data taken from the web):

D30 - 17 May 2000
D60 - 22 Feb 2002
10D - 27 Feb 2003
20D - 19 Aug 2004

30D - 21 Feb 2006
Therefore, we have:

D30 -> 21 months -> D60
D60 -> 12 months -> 10D
10D -> 18 months -> 20D
20D -> 18 months -> 30D
30D -> 18 months -> 40D, which means: August 2007!
This is perhaps an old picture, but you'll agree that this model is definitely lacking a WF (Weather Forecasts) Function o:D
Cheers,
Max

Chris Galvin
Tuesday 12th June 2007, 16:46
My bet is that the 40D will be released and promoted at Photokina in September along with the 1Ds MK III.

macshark
Tuesday 12th June 2007, 22:43
What I want:
- Better dynamic range
- Better high ISO noise performance
- Better AF system
- Better viewfinder magnification/brightness

What most Canonsumers want:
- More megapixels
- Live view
- Video recording
- Sensor IS

Let's see who wins!

:-)

Chris Galvin
Tuesday 12th June 2007, 23:07
What I want:
- Better dynamic range
- Better high ISO noise performance
- Better AF system
- Better viewfinder magnification/brightness

What most Canonsumers want:
- More megapixels
- Live view
- Video recording
- Sensor IS

Let's see who wins!

:-)


I don't want liveview, its a waste of time and you cannot use AF with it. Video is of no use to me neither , I agree with you mac

christineredgate
Tuesday 12th June 2007, 23:10
An upgrade from the 20/30D with sensor cleaning will be perfect.

mike from ebbw
Tuesday 12th June 2007, 23:15
I would like all the features shown on the model in the pic Max has posted.All except for "jobs"!I could without any more of those.(lol)

Keith Reeder
Wednesday 13th June 2007, 08:12
I'm utterly unconvinced about sensor cleaning, Christine - just something else to break as far as I'm concerned, and pointless, given how easy it is to clean the sensor.

I agree completely with Steve (Macshark) myself.

Adey Baker
Wednesday 13th June 2007, 08:25
What all bird photographers want from the 40D, etc. - a quieter shutter!

Roy C
Wednesday 13th June 2007, 10:05
What all bird photographers want from the 40D, etc. - a quieter shutter!
I would agree with this Adey - could not believe the difference when I went to a 30D from a much quieter 350D.

Andy Bright
Wednesday 13th June 2007, 20:57
I'm utterly unconvinced about sensor cleaning, Christine - just something else to break as far as I'm concerned, and pointless, given how easy it is to clean the sensor.

I agree completely with Steve (Macshark) myself.

Yep, i've got a dust bunny or two on my mk3 already... the built-in vibration thing may help a tiny bit, but don't go throwing away your sensor brushes ;)

christineredgate
Wednesday 13th June 2007, 23:52
One can knock sensor cleaning,but on the 400D it does work.I have used loads of cleaning swabs trying to clean a 30D,got there in the end,but quite costly.Dream cam would be a dust free sensor,and more important a noise free shutter click.One click from either a 20D or 30D and the bird has flown!!!.

Keith Reeder
Saturday 16th June 2007, 14:32
Not knocking it Christine, I simply think it's pointless.

A rocket blower costs little to buy, costs even less to run, doesn't turn the camera into a repair job when it finally wears out, and - in my experience - deals with dust perfectly well.

citrinella
Monday 18th June 2007, 10:13
and more important a noise free shutter click.

Technologically I reckon this should be within reach. We use welding helmets where the glass is clear until the arc lights, then goes dark. this is a reaction to the brightness, but it is done by putting an electric current through the crystals.

It is possible to have a shutter that doesn't move - that goes clear when you press the shutter button, dark when you don't. Similarly a non-moving mirror could be used that is reflective until you push the shutter button. Personally I'd make them one and the same thing.

Obviously there would be issues about making the shutter operate at the correct speed; optical transmission quality especially through an angled element; plenty others I cannot see :-) Still - I think it should be within reach.

As regards the 40d. I am pretty sure a link was posted on POTN to a Canon site saying there would be no 30d upgrade this year (2007). To my mind, that is a good think - give them more time to do a proper job. Canon might have felt the criticism that the 30d wasn't a big enough step from the 20d.

Mike.

GaneshMP
Saturday 30th June 2007, 15:10
Hello,
summer is getting close, the right time for the announcement of new Canon Camera models.
As a matter of fact, 18 months are the usual time range (data taken from the web):

D30 - 17 May 2000
D60 - 22 Feb 2002
10D - 27 Feb 2003
20D - 19 Aug 2004

30D - 21 Feb 2006
Therefore, we have:

D30 -> 21 months -> D60
D60 -> 12 months -> 10D
10D -> 18 months -> 20D
20D -> 18 months -> 30D
30D -> 18 months -> 40D, which means: August 2007!
This is perhaps an old picture, but you'll agree that this model is definitely lacking a WF (Weather Forecasts) Function o:D
Cheers,
Max
Hello,

I am a new member. Can we have a button and a LCD display foir GPS and Altimeter on the 40D? I am from the mountains!!! I hope engineers at Canon look at the 40D picture.

Cheers.

GaneshMP

Keith Reeder
Saturday 30th June 2007, 16:32
Hi Ganesh - welcome to BF!

;)

Akihaka
Sunday 1st July 2007, 09:40
Lol, Max. I knew your camera must look something like that.. I´m waiting to have it in my shop.

nigelblake
Sunday 1st July 2007, 11:13
I'd like to see a spirit level display in the viewfinder (both landscape and portrait)
Really not fussed about sensor cleaning devices, my daughters 400D had a dirty sensor straight out of the box, and has been cleaned (by dad) a few times now.
What I would like more than anything is a user programable focus limiter in the camera body, this would then solve the issue of AF defaulting to the background because you could set focus limit to an accurate range to suit where your subject is.

Keith Reeder
Sunday 1st July 2007, 12:25
What I would like more than anything is a user programable focus limiter in the camera body, this would then solve the issue of AF defaulting to the background because you could set focus limit to an accurate range to suit where your subject is.

Aye, that's an interesting idea, Nigel.

Adey Baker
Sunday 1st July 2007, 14:03
What I would like more than anything is a user programable focus limiter in the camera body, this would then solve the issue of AF defaulting to the background because you could set focus limit to an accurate range to suit where your subject is.


That would be a brilliant idea. Not sure how easy it would be with different minimum focus distances on each lens, but once you got used to it, it would be really useful (sounding like Thomas the Tank Engine, here!)

As it is, those lenses that feature a limiter have different positions for the switch on different models and some have two whilst others have three limiter-ranges.

Also, if your focus position on the lens is just the wrong side of the required range when you set it you wonder for a second or two why nothing seems to be coming into focus!

nigelblake
Sunday 1st July 2007, 14:09
I think it could be quite easy to do, as you could use the same method for selecting the focus near point and far point as is used in DEP mode. By selecting a far point thats not as distant as any background trees etc you should then be more able to maintain A/F on a bird flying in front of said background details.

nigelblake
Sunday 1st July 2007, 17:43
Yes John I have gridded screens in all three of my cameras, but nature more often than not offers very few truly vertical or horizontal lines. I use hot-shoe mounted spirit levels as well as the grid screens, but an accurate in viewfinder level would be very useful.

davem
Thursday 5th July 2007, 13:07
My bet is that the 40D will be released and promoted at Photokina in September along with the 1Ds MK III.

Aaaarrrggghhh!!!

No!!! Please!!! Don't make me go to that place more than once every two years :C :C

Next one shouldn't be until 2008 Chris. Or at least I hope I'm right, although nasty rumours have been heard here that they want to make it annual:-C :-C

Taxboy
Thursday 5th July 2007, 19:10
I think that this is going to be tricky for Canon - the 400D at entry level has more MP (important as a sales pitch - not necessarily better image quality) so the 30D replacement is going to have more MP. However if all that happens is a 400D sensor put in a 30D body (with the sensor cleaning) & perhaps a bigger LCD screen you'll be deafened by the internet howls of protest. Also this won't offer much of an upgrade for existing Canon users. Perhaps they'll crank up the sensor size to say 12 MP but still keep the cropped sensor ?
Just my 2p

Andrew

Chris Galvin
Friday 6th July 2007, 16:19
Aaaarrrggghhh!!!

No!!! Please!!! Don't make me go to that place more than once every two years :C :C

Next one shouldn't be until 2008 Chris. Or at least I hope I'm right, although nasty rumours have been heard here that they want to make it annual:-C :-C

Sorry for upsetting you Dave, you are right of course it every 2 years. Was it really only last year that I was there?