matermind 3 - the streaky or otherwise brown jobs

[Jane Turner]

These were taken in western Europe, 2 in the UK and none in my garden. I want the plant too Michael.

Will edit these in because the server is so slow....one at a time!

[Jane Turner]

hurrah... that took ages!

[Michael W]

Here's my pure guesses.

1. Water Pipit
2. Black Redstart
3. Dunnock
4. Crested Lark

All are probably wrong, but it's my best offer at the moment.

Michael

[Joern Lehmhus]

I d go for-
oh s**t, I only know the german name for the first one-does that count?

Brachpiper
blackRedstart
a calandrella lark-but which one?
skylark

[Jane Turner]

Brachpiper = Anthus campestris?

[Joern Lehmhus]

yep-thats him .Whats that in English?

[Jane Turner]

Tawny Pipit. Brachpiper sounds better. I used BWP to translate!

[Andrew Whitehouse]

Ooooh Nasty,

1) Richard's Pipit
2) Good grief - a wierd Common Redstart
3) Lapland Bunting
4) Thekla Lark

[Michael Frankis]

1 Tawny Pipit
2 Black Redstart + Crassula (sp.)
3 Yellow-breasted Bunting
4 Thekla Lark

Michael

[Joern Lehmhus]

by the way, which plant? the salvinia water fern behind the redstart?
Or what is it? looks like a Salvinia to me at least...

[Jane Turner]

yes that was the plant..... No idea what it is myself!

Three birds have been named correctly, but no more than two by the same person

[Michael Frankis]

3. Bobolink

[Jane Turner]

The colours look funny in pic two, that's the way they came back. I considered posting it in black and white. It was wet at the time, having just been rained on. Its a hard one, but it is a close up!

1 3 and 4 are identifiable on these pics alone...honest

[Bluetail]

1. Tawny Pipit
2. Black Redstart
3. Lapland Bunting
4. Crested Lark

[chris23565]

Tawny Pipit
Black Redstart
Bobolink
Thekla Lark

[Jane Turner]

Still no one better than 2 out of 4. Three speices have been named correctly. The 4th not to genus yet.

Clues... look at the tertials of number 3 and the visible lesser coverts of number 2

[Joern Lehmhus]

I will try again, I know I should have taken a longer look:

1.Tawny pipit
2.??? wing reminds me slightly of white wagtail, but all the rest doesnt fit so well
With the plant ID I think Michael is nearer, the right twig looks suspicially like a Salvinia, but the left branch shows it is something with fleshy leaves...
3.Bobolink
4.Thekla Lark

[Jane Turner]

You have one more right than last time Joern.

[Steve G]

............> Tawny Pipit
Black Redstart
Lapland Bunting
Woodlark ( can sometimes have a hint of a blunt crest, the picture shows a prominent supercilium & everyone else has alreadt picked "Crekla"
................................ :h?:

[Jane Turner]

To do this like mastermind....two right there Steve. The other two are not the right genus.

[Steve G]

Before I go -could 2 be a race of Black-eared White ar*e?

[Jane Turner]

Hmm closer

[Nick-on]

1 Tawny Pipit
2 RB Fly???
3 Lapland bunting
4 Thekla Lark

[Jane Turner]

Closest yet!

[Jane Turner]

The bird that was yet to named correctly would be really easy if it was looking the other way

[Steve G]

Should have stuck to Galerida-? 4 =Thekla lark

[Steve G]

Have to go -got a sprog clinic starting; the suspense is killing me! ;)

[Jane Turner]

Yes you should....

[Jane Turner]

Three birds have been named correctly, the 4th is now down to the correct genus. Must just be a matter of time, there are enough clues out there.

[Michael Frankis]

Desert Wheatear for #2?

[Harry Hussey]

1)Tawny Pipit
2)1st-w fem.Desert Wheatear?
3)Lapland Bunting
4)Thekla Lark?
Haven't had a chance to see if this has been solved yet....
Harry H

[Jane Turner]

100% right Harry

need to see if MF got the bunting. If not its one to you!

[Steve G]

Desert-.......aye > tertial pattern!! Should have gone to Fife Ness recently.

[Jane Turner]

So...

1. Tawny Pipit. Adult taken in Spain. There is a slight dark mark on the lores, but the colouring and I think shape give it away too

2. First winter female Desert Wheatear, taken a Fleetwood. Its not exactly easy to id here. This bird was a very grey one seen from in front, from behind its obviously a DW (see below). It was also insanely tame. It was under 6ft away and its still out of focus! I'll post another pic asap, the attachment thing isn't playing.

3. Its a Lap bunt... taken on Fair Isle in an easterly sleet storm. The chestnut outer web to 1st tertial was the best clue

4. A Thekla Lark taken in Extremadura Spain. Habitat was the best clue - I can do this pair in Spain but I'd always struggle elsewhere..... and a vagrant eek! The relatively stout bill and sharp, black spotty-streaks are how I picked this out at first. The crest is a wee bit short for Crested too.

[Brian Stone]

The only one I was fairly confident of to start with was Tawny Pip but would also guess Thekla for the last. With all the hints the second wouldn't be Desert Wheatear would it? And on that basis the other two should be Lap and Thekla as already suggested.

[Brian Stone]

Damn late as usual.

[Jane Turner]

But still a stirling effort.

I have another batch of 4 ready...or do you want a rest?

[Steve G]

Oh................. go on then! ;)

[CJW]

Can't believe it!
Just called in for a quick 5 minutes whilst in work and missed this thread.
I've got written on my deskpad:
Tawny, Dezzie, Lap' and Thekla.
Goddammit! Easiest one so far Jane. Probably 'cos of the better photos!

[Jane Turner]

I believe you..

Sctually the next one was the easiest. harry got it in seconds

[Bluetail]

Damn! I was going to say Desert Wheatear for no.2, but thought you'd said "The birds have been named correctly....". I need new glasses. :storm:

[Tim Allwood]

dESERT wHEATEAR

[Tim Allwood]

SO SORRY
ONLY JUST LOGGED ON
REMEMBER THE BIRD (d. wHEATEAR) THOUGH WELL AS i SAW IT! cOVS A GIVEAWAY!!
SORRY ABOUT CAPS - CRAPPY SCHOOL COMPUTER!!!