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Richard Klim said:
BirdLife International has released Version 1 of its world checklist (replacing Version 0, 2007).
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Is there a good reason to keep Chrysococcyx russatus ? Payne (2005) said that it is indistinguishable in plumage and color from birds in NG; shouldn't it be included in C. minutillus poecilurus ?

They've also kept C. crassirostris contra Payne ...

Daniel
 
The new check list

Richard Klim said:
In conjunction with the publication today of the IUCN Red List 2008, BirdLife International has released Version 1 of its world checklist (replacing Version 0, 2007). Also provided are useful summaries listing 2007-2008 taxonomic changes and species currently under taxonomic review by BirdLife.

Ref. http://www.birdlife.org/datazone/species/index.html

Richard
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Its cool they moved the Common Bulbul to the warblers,i have always thought that they are more related to the warblers than the greenbuls.
 
Nicky - where did you see they moved Common Bulbul? looked through all the lists etc on that link - me being daft? :)
 
There seems to be a proliferation of lists at the moment - who is the world authority? Is there one? If not, what principle if used for selecting authorities to follow - regionalisation or taxonomic specialisation? If its a personal selection rather than to declared principles then its basically a la IQ40 club and of limited value.

John
 
They don't provide documentation for family-level classification, so I've no idea where the idea of melampittas & the ifrit in Orthonychidae comes from. Of course, they still have Zosteropidae as a family separate from Timaliidae (& Sylvia in an undivided Sylviidae), so there are bigger problems than that.
 
Daniel Philippe said:
The melampittas Melampitta lugubris, M. gigantea and the Ifrit Ifrita kowaldi are in the Orthonychidae with the logrunners.
Is there any support for that?
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The only genetic study that sampled Ifrita to my knowledge is Jønsson et al. (2008 - http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rsbl.2007.0464), which also had Orthonyx temminckii but no Melampitta sp.
Most of the available genetic sequence data for Melampitta are from the classical paper by Barker et al. (2004 - http://dx.doi.org/10.1073/pnas.0401892101), who had both species, as well as two Orthonyx spp, but lacked Ifrita kowaldi.
In each case, the non-Orthonyx genus fell well withing core-Corvoidea, and Orthonyx outside of it.

Sibley & Ahlquist (1987 - http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=MU9870066.pdf) had similar results with Melampitta lugubris and Orthonyx using DNA-DNA hybridization.

The placement of these genera in Orthonychidae seems to date back from before this...

Cheers,
Laurent -
 
Farnboro John said:
There seems to be a proliferation of lists at the moment - who is the world authority? Is there one? If not, what principle if used for selecting authorities to follow - regionalisation or taxonomic specialisation? If its a personal selection rather than to declared principles then its basically a la IQ40 club and of limited value.

John
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its hard to think of a better authority to maintain the worldlist of species than Birdlife!

as already stated the local and regional authorities followed are clearly indicated in the list

Rob
 
Daniel Philippe said:
Nectarinia sovimanga or N. souimanga ? Which one is correct ?
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The original spelling of Gmelin (1788:471) is "Sovimanga"; "souimanga" is an emendation (that a note on the Zoonomen website attributes to Gadow in the Catalogue of Birds in the British Museum - Alan P. Peterson there uses sovimanga.)

But Gmelin's name seems to be based on a name of Buffon, as it obviously means nothing in Greek or Latin, and appears in the account in an explicit citation of Buffon:
"Sovi-manga. Buff. hist. nat. des ois. 5 p. 494."
This citation is clearly in error - Buffon actually called this bird "Le soui-manga", not "Le sovi-manga". Thus there is direct evidence of a mistake in the original description, and I think the emendation could be seen as justified.

L -
 
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just for the record, there seem to be a slight misunderstanding here. While family is provided, sensibly this isn't something they've spend any amount of time on. This is not - and never was - intended as being a major study in macrotaxonomy.
 
Daniel Philippe said:
For the swiftlets, there is a ref that I cannot find anywhere: Price et al. (2006).
Price et al. (2004) and (2005) are available from Jordan Price's website http://faculty.smcm.edu/jjprice/dept.html but there is nothing for the swifts in 2006.

???
Daniel
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It is given as Price et al. (2006) in the checklist, but the ref list has only Price et al. (2005), which in turn is not cited in the checklist. So the most straightforward explanation may be a typo in the checklist.
This paper does not recommend splitting the taxa presented as "under review" in the checklist, but shows that rather deep genetic divergences exist between populations of Collocalia esculenta. (But they didn't sample all the populations [i.a., they lack the nominate race], so it's probably going to be difficult to do much with this... What the data do suggest, however, is that treating the marginata group as distinct while keeping the rest lumped, as has been done in the past [see footnote 3 on p. 247 in H&M3], is probably wrong.)
 
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l_raty said:
The original spelling of Gmelin (1788:471) is "Sovimanga"; "souimanga" is an emendation (that a note on the Zoonomen website attributes to Gadow in the Catalogue of Birds in the British Museum - Alan P. Peterson there uses sovimanga.)
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I asked about this on the ICZN discussion group - responses have been that the evidence from the original description was not enough to consider the emendation justified. Therefore, the correct spelling should be sovimanga.

(At least unless souimanga can be regarded as "in prevailing usage" - a notion that unfortunately is quite vague in the Code. But this spelling is in any case far from being used universally. Despite the name is spelled souimanga in at least three recent checklists (H&M3, Clements6, Gill & Wright), and on Avibase, Google still has more hits for "Cinnyris sovimanga" and "Nectarinia sovimanga" than for their equivalent using souimanga.)

L -
 
l_raty said:
... What the data do suggest, however, is that treating the marginata group as distinct while keeping the rest lumped, as has been done in the past [see footnote 3 on p. 247 in H&M3], is probably wrong.)
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OK, thank you Laurent,

Still wondering whether C. esculenta (with all races as in H&M3 for instance) is really monophyletic including especially natalis (the Christmas Island taxon that looks like and lives close to linchi) ?

Daniel
 
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