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Acrocephalus
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Hi,
For reptiles there is Bons & Geniez (1996) which is an atlas with distributional maps for all species; it includes also a photo for each species. It is bilingual French – Spanish book with an extended English summary. For reptiles & amphibians could you upload the photos, a friend of mine can help you identify them.
Bons J. & Geniez P. 1996. Amphibiens et reptiles du Maroc (Sahara occidental compris). Atlas biogéographique. Asociación Herpetologica Española, Barcelona, 319 p.
For Saharan wildlife (mammals, reptiles & amphibians and many groups of insects) you can check GERES website. It contains photos and other info.
Regards
For reptiles there is Bons & Geniez (1996) which is an atlas with distributional maps for all species; it includes also a photo for each species. It is bilingual French – Spanish book with an extended English summary. For reptiles & amphibians could you upload the photos, a friend of mine can help you identify them.
Bons J. & Geniez P. 1996. Amphibiens et reptiles du Maroc (Sahara occidental compris). Atlas biogéographique. Asociación Herpetologica Española, Barcelona, 319 p.
For Saharan wildlife (mammals, reptiles & amphibians and many groups of insects) you can check GERES website. It contains photos and other info.
Regards
that's great Mohamed, thanks. I've uploaded the photos to Surfbirds
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery22
and
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery19
Will take a look at that website to see if it can shed some light on the issue. Let me know if you have problems viewing the galleries above.
cheers
James
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery22
and
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery19
Will take a look at that website to see if it can shed some light on the issue. Let me know if you have problems viewing the galleries above.
cheers
James
simo_cod
Member
Hi James
I can help you identify the species of amphibians and reptiles of Morocco.
Gecko spp = it’s Oudri's Fan-footed Gecko : Ptyodactylus oudrii
toad spp, From the dorsal side, I can say that this is Pseudepidalea boulengeri. Because it has a more or less squat and a less pointed snout than other species of Pseudepidalea Brongersma. But if you have another photo of the underside you can check for spots or not? because in Ps. Brongersmai, there are spots on the underside, so they are absent in Ps. boulengeri.
Regards
Mohamed
I can help you identify the species of amphibians and reptiles of Morocco.
Gecko spp = it’s Oudri's Fan-footed Gecko : Ptyodactylus oudrii
toad spp, From the dorsal side, I can say that this is Pseudepidalea boulengeri. Because it has a more or less squat and a less pointed snout than other species of Pseudepidalea Brongersma. But if you have another photo of the underside you can check for spots or not? because in Ps. Brongersmai, there are spots on the underside, so they are absent in Ps. boulengeri.
Regards
Mohamed
Thanks for that (there are two toad pics - are they both same species?? Sadly I have no photos of the underside) Any idea of what the others are? (they run onto page 2 of the gallery as others have added more pics which push the older ones back). I worked out the gecko from web photos and came to same conclusion.
simo_cod
Member
Sorry James, I did not see the next page,
Another toad spp, it’s Crapaud Pantherin (Bufo mauritanicus),
frog spp, it’s Mediterranean Tree Frog and Stripeless Tree Frog: (Hyla meridionalis),
Common chameleon, the Common Chameleon (Chamaeleo chamaeleon) is the only species of Morocco,
Lizard spp, The Red-tailed Spiny-footed Lizard (Acanthodactylus erythrurus), the lizard is characterized by the presence of three complete sets of scales in the towers after fingers legs.
Spanish terrapin, it’s turtle Semi-Aquatic (Mauremys leprosa).
Regards
Mohamed
Another toad spp, it’s Crapaud Pantherin (Bufo mauritanicus),
frog spp, it’s Mediterranean Tree Frog and Stripeless Tree Frog: (Hyla meridionalis),
Common chameleon, the Common Chameleon (Chamaeleo chamaeleon) is the only species of Morocco,
Lizard spp, The Red-tailed Spiny-footed Lizard (Acanthodactylus erythrurus), the lizard is characterized by the presence of three complete sets of scales in the towers after fingers legs.
Spanish terrapin, it’s turtle Semi-Aquatic (Mauremys leprosa).
Regards
Mohamed
excellent, thank you, it has been hard doing this without a field guide.
The lizard is very common - I take it it is one of the most numerous species in Morocco?
Are you sure the frog is Hyla meridionalis? Web shots seem to show a brighter creature with blunter snout and obvious ear patch. It did not strike me a tree frog (though I'm no expert).
There were many frogs nearby and I thought they might be Rana ridibunda (which we have naturalised in the UK). Could it be a young (unspotted) one of these?
regards
James
Mike Richardson
Formerly known as Skink1978
Hi James
A good book for mammals is
Aulagnier S, Haffner P, Mitchell-Jones AJ, Moutou F and Zima J (2009) Mammals of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. A&C Black, London.
Obviously it covers Morocco, but I find it is the guide I now use for Europe. Text, range map and illustrations are all together, and for this reason alone it's worth the money! It's a good book anyway.
Mohamed seems to be doing a great job with your herps
A good book for mammals is
Aulagnier S, Haffner P, Mitchell-Jones AJ, Moutou F and Zima J (2009) Mammals of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. A&C Black, London.
Obviously it covers Morocco, but I find it is the guide I now use for Europe. Text, range map and illustrations are all together, and for this reason alone it's worth the money! It's a good book anyway.
Mohamed seems to be doing a great job with your herps
Mike Richardson
Formerly known as Skink1978
I almost forgot - I think you are correct with the Fat Sand Rat.
cheers Mike, I'll look into buying that book (trying to limit books as we're running out of space!) I settled on fat sand rat earlier today - I had doubts before but think I judged the size wrong. Mohamed has really helped with this lot anyway. I nearly brought along a couple of Sherman traps - wish I had now - would have been great to catch a gerbil in the desert instead of gimpsing them in the car headlights.
simo_cod
Member
Hi James,
Regarding the Common Acanthodactylus (Acanthodactylus erythrurus) is one of the species with a wide distribution in Morocco.
For the image of the frog, it is very difficult to be determined from this photo, which I think was the first view is the absence of the middorsal line, which removes to Rana ridibunda. But if we focus on the position of the eyes, which are very close to each other, we can say that this is a species of the genus Rana! It is a complex of frogs in North Africa!
PS: For sure if you have a photo of members of the previous case, it can help for identification. The fingertips of previous legs in H. meridionalis are equipped with adhesive discs.
regards
Mohamed
Regarding the Common Acanthodactylus (Acanthodactylus erythrurus) is one of the species with a wide distribution in Morocco.
For the image of the frog, it is very difficult to be determined from this photo, which I think was the first view is the absence of the middorsal line, which removes to Rana ridibunda. But if we focus on the position of the eyes, which are very close to each other, we can say that this is a species of the genus Rana! It is a complex of frogs in North Africa!
PS: For sure if you have a photo of members of the previous case, it can help for identification. The fingertips of previous legs in H. meridionalis are equipped with adhesive discs.
regards
Mohamed
I think that's the only photo I have - I guess I'll put the frog down as Rana spp - we have a range of them here in the UK consisting of introduced marsh (particularly variable) and pool frogs with edible (a hybrid species from the other two) also present. Thanks for your comments - I saw your post about the Dunn's larks nr Merzouga - v frustrating as we drove right past them several times!
simo_cod
Member
hello James
This is not me that posted the comment about the Dunn's larks nr Merzouga? He is a friend (Acrocephalus).
Regards
Mohamed
Also I have a few record shots of lizards and toads from Morocco (not necessarily identifiable). I don't know anything about lizards or toads myself, so I'd appreciate any help.
Locations:
1. Near Tarfaya
2. Near Ouarzazate
3. Near Awserd
4. Near Ouarzazate
5. Oued Massa
Locations:
1. Near Tarfaya
2. Near Ouarzazate
3. Near Awserd
4. Near Ouarzazate
5. Oued Massa
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simo_cod
Member
Hi CAU,
Photo 1 : this is Golden Fringe-fingered Lizard: Acanthodactilus aureus.
Photo : 2 + Photo : 4. (Near Ouarzazate) it’s a Bibron’s agama, Agama impalearis.
Photo : 3. Near Awserd, it’s Fringe‐toed lizard: Acanthodactilus dumerili. But I'm not sure 100%, identified mainly based on distrubution, because Acanthodactylus maculatus is somewhat ressembless this species but is distributed farther to the north (few Km to south of Layoun is the sothernmost limite of A. maculatus).
Photos 4. Oued Massa. The Spotted Fringe-fingered Lizard : Acanthodactylus maculatus.
regards
Mohamed
Photo 1 : this is Golden Fringe-fingered Lizard: Acanthodactilus aureus.
Photo : 2 + Photo : 4. (Near Ouarzazate) it’s a Bibron’s agama, Agama impalearis.
Photo : 3. Near Awserd, it’s Fringe‐toed lizard: Acanthodactilus dumerili. But I'm not sure 100%, identified mainly based on distrubution, because Acanthodactylus maculatus is somewhat ressembless this species but is distributed farther to the north (few Km to south of Layoun is the sothernmost limite of A. maculatus).
Photos 4. Oued Massa. The Spotted Fringe-fingered Lizard : Acanthodactylus maculatus.
regards
Mohamed
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