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Brian Stone

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In each case these are down to one of two (or three) species. Anyone care to pick one for any of them and say why please?

1. Hedya nubiferana/pruniana (Marbled Orchard/Plum Tortrix)
2. Oegoconia quadripuncta/deauratella
3. Epiblema trimaculana/rosaecolana/roborana

Thanks
 

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brianhstone said:
In each case these are down to one of two (or three) species. Anyone care to pick one for any of them and say why please?

1. Hedya nubiferana/pruniana (Marbled Orchard/Plum Tortrix)
2. Oegoconia quadripuncta/deauratella
3. Epiblema trimaculana/rosaecolana/roborana

Thanks
I'd Plum! for pruniana

Not looking at other 2. Mike mght have a go.
 
OK. If those are too hard what about this one? Out at lunchtime today and it landed on my car so I shot it! Its about 7mm long.
 

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brianhstone said:
OK. If those are too hard what about this one? Out at lunchtime today and it landed on my car so I shot it! Its about 7mm long.
Remarkable condition for one thats been shot! ;)

Try Cochylis Atricapitana.

If there is white on or about head then its one of the others ( I think I'm right about that. No time to look up)
 
Angus T said:
I'd Plum! for pruniana

Not looking at other 2. Mike mght have a go.

Well, as you've passed the baton.....

FWIW (not much):
1. is pruniana (Plum Fruit-tree Tortrix, or something equally silly, given that it mainly feeds on blackthorn!)
2. Yep, it's an Oegoconia sp. Gen.det. job to get any further - can't be adequately separated on external characteristics (this was treated as one species until about 30 years ago)
3. Yep again. It's one of those three. Need more shots of the 'top' of the moth, and Bradley's Torticidae in front of me, to go any further.

Agree with atricapitana.
 
MikeWall said:
Well, as you've passed the baton.....

FWIW (not much):
1. is pruniana (Plum Fruit-tree Tortrix, or something equally silly, given that it mainly feeds on blackthorn!)
2. Yep, it's an Oegoconia sp. Gen.det. job to get any further - can't be adequately separated on external characteristics (this was treated as one species until about 30 years ago)
3. Yep again. It's one of those three. Need more shots of the 'top' of the moth, and Bradley's Torticidae in front of me, to go any further.

Agree with atricapitana.

Thanks for looking at these Mike. I am glad you both went for pruniana as that was what I thought but it got a vote for nubiferana on UKmoths.

I have kept the Oegoconia. There are few records of either species here.

I thought the third one was trimaculana based on the extent of brown markings near the apex and the two small black "fingers" near the middle of the forewing but I am working from photographed examples as I have no reference for tortrices.

Unfortunately I have another batch from recent sessions but I am trying to work through most of them myself first.
 
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