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Spiky and the Crambid (1 Viewer)
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MikeWall
HantsMoth-er
brianhstone said:
The 'spiky' is a tort, Cochylidae, the unpronounceable Phtheochroa rugosana
See http://www.bike2nature.co.uk/moths/moth_0925.htm.
HTH
Mike
Brian Stone
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Spot on. Thanks to you both!
harry eales
Ancient Entomologist
MikeWall said:
What nonsense, I can pronounce rugosana quite easily. lol.
The genric name is easily done if you split it up, it sounds like fthee-och-rowa. But I bet you knew that anyway
Harry
harry eales
Ancient Entomologist
Angus T said:And what does 'fthee' sound like?
Oh droll, very droll. lol.
Harry
MikeWall
HantsMoth-er
harry eales said:
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I agree, although I think I'd put a hyphen between the f and the 'thee'. So maybe unpronounceable's a bit strong, but unwieldy definitely. Another question for you Harry (I admit to never having done Latin at skool), how would you pronounce Cnephasia - k-ne-fasia or, as I prefer, Ne-fasia (silent C)? Latin names are great at allowing scientists across the world to know they're talking about the same species (providing they all agree on the most recent version of the name, but that's a different story), but the pronunciation is a nightmare - someone in Italy has a completely different view of how a name should be pronounced from someone in, say, Liverpool. I've heard that the English pronunciation of something as seemingly simple as Bubo bubo is laughable to an Italian....
harry eales
Ancient Entomologist
Hello Mike
Definately unwieldy, I agree.
I didn't do Latin either mike, my schoolmasters had a hard enough job teaching my class English. lol. reference Cnephasia I would go along with your silent C
I agree, but when was the last international conference you attended where only latin names were used. Fair enough, when I correspond with others abroad I type the latin name, so pronunciation doesn't apply.
I have no doubt latin is pronounced differently all over the world, and as all the people who spoke latin as their native tongue are long dead, who is to say that the latin teachers of today get it right anyway. As for Liverpudlians, I can hardly understand them when they are speaking English. lol. No offence meant if your from Liverpool.
Harry
Definately unwieldy, I agree.
I didn't do Latin either mike, my schoolmasters had a hard enough job teaching my class English. lol. reference Cnephasia I would go along with your silent C
I agree, but when was the last international conference you attended where only latin names were used. Fair enough, when I correspond with others abroad I type the latin name, so pronunciation doesn't apply.
I have no doubt latin is pronounced differently all over the world, and as all the people who spoke latin as their native tongue are long dead, who is to say that the latin teachers of today get it right anyway. As for Liverpudlians, I can hardly understand them when they are speaking English. lol. No offence meant if your from Liverpool.
Harry
