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nikonmike Thursday 2nd November 2017 14:24

The soon to be G9
 
A better specified camera aimed at the stills photographer

https://www.43rumors.com/ft4-specs-new-panasonic-g9/

nikonmike Monday 6th November 2017 07:39

Not long to wait now, i hope its not just a price gap filling camera.

njlarsen Monday 6th November 2017 13:16

• 20 Megapixel
• Up to 20bps with full AF and 60bps with locked AF
• 6.5-speed, 5-axis image stabilizer (in conjunction with lens stabilizer)
• New EVF with no blackout and 0.83x magnification
• Waterproof and frost resistant (-10 degrees) body housing in magnesium

These are the last data released on the 43rumors.com site. It looks like there are some translation issues (6.5-speed vs 6.5x, etc). The question is if this will be a cheaper way of getting an improved AF from the GH5.

Niels

nikonmike Monday 6th November 2017 14:28

https://www.43rumors.com/ft5-leaked-...0mm-f2-8-lens/

Looks promising

rka Monday 6th November 2017 22:36

EVF is biggest attraction from my perspective. Hopefully we will hear the actual price by Wednesday. Many are suggesting $1,800 USD. Worth two G80/85s? ... only if CAF for BIF is much improved. Also looks big.


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Originally Posted by nikonmike (Post 3640059)


etudiant Tuesday 7th November 2017 05:53

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Originally Posted by rka (Post 3640278)
EVF is biggest attraction from my perspective. Hopefully we will hear the actual price by Wednesday. Many are suggesting $1,800 USD. Worth two G80/85s? ... only if CAF for BIF is much improved. Also looks big.

Latest rumor is $2300 US, perhaps Panasonic is emulating Sony's approach and will also charge more for technical innovation.

nikonmike Tuesday 7th November 2017 06:55

Looking like it will be priced out of my range, although the two main things for me would have been improved AF and no EVF black out.
When i had my G80 i had no complaints about AF and never noticed a lot of EVF black out so perhaps its a good thing its expensive.

Jim M. Tuesday 7th November 2017 14:29

I'm seeing $1800 as the latest. It looks to me that this is designed to compete with Oly EM-1 mk. ii. The heavy, videocentric GH-5, with DXO mark sensor scores that didn't break any new ground, doesn't seem to do that.

nikonmike Tuesday 7th November 2017 14:49

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Originally Posted by Jim M. (Post 3640484)
I'm seeing $1800 as the latest. It looks to me that this is designed to compete with Oly EM-1 mk. ii. The heavy, videocentric GH-5, with DXO mark sensor scores that didn't break any new ground, doesn't seem to do that.

The DXO sensor scores dont interest me that much, if it was in my price range and they had improved on focus and no black out i would have it.

Jim M. Tuesday 7th November 2017 16:12

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Originally Posted by nikonmike (Post 3640492)
The DXO sensor scores dont interest me that much, if it was in my price range and they had improved on focus and no black out i would have it.

What interests me is what it's going to offer that the EM-1 mk ii doesn't. I think that's going to determine how successful it is on the market.

Vespobuteo Tuesday 7th November 2017 17:47

Interesting theory on the oversized 1:1 sensor, portrait mode without flipping the camera. Maybe it will add to the extended OIS performance as well.

To make me interested I would like to see ISO performance like the E-M1 II.
And price way bellow the GH-5.

Any price guesstimate on the 200/2.8? $500-600?

nikonmike Tuesday 7th November 2017 19:09

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Originally Posted by Vespobuteo (Post 3640559)
Interesting theory on the oversized 1:1 sensor, portrait mode without flipping the camera. Maybe it will add to the extended OIS performance as well.

To make me interested I would like to see ISO performance like the E-M1 II.
And price way bellow the GH-5.

Any price guesstimate on the 200/2.8? $500-600?

2500

Vespobuteo Tuesday 7th November 2017 22:58

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Originally Posted by nikonmike (Post 3640584)
2500

Guess or rumor?
Canon have a 200mm/2.8 L that is around $700-800 (non IS). Would be about the same size of the glass etc. 3 times that would be a bit high IMO.
At least for a lens that only is a rumor..:-O

njlarsen Tuesday 7th November 2017 23:57

A non-IS lens is a very old lens. A newly designed lens is probably sharper and the difference of the IS will definitely cost some money. So a guesstimate on the 200/2.8 of $500-600 probably does belong in Utopia :-O

Niels

Adey Baker Wednesday 8th November 2017 09:08

1499 for the G9 and 2699 for the 200mm

Adey Baker Wednesday 8th November 2017 09:28

The 200mm is bundled with a 1.4x converter with a 2x as an optional accessory. It'll be interesting to see how close the 1.4x combination comes to the 300mm Olympus lens in performance

Vespobuteo Wednesday 8th November 2017 10:04

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Originally Posted by njlarsen (Post 3640703)
A non-IS lens is a very old lens. A newly designed lens is probably sharper and the difference of the IS will definitely cost some money. So a guesstimate on the 200/2.8 of $500-600 probably does belong in Utopia :-O

Niels

€3000...3:-)

price definitely belongs in Utopia/Leica Land. Most expensive 400mm/5.6 eqv. lens ever.
So does the weight.
The lens is 1245 grams, 1365 with the DMW-TC14 converter.
(Canon 200/2.8 is 790 g)

Looks like lovely build quality though.

dalat Wednesday 8th November 2017 10:33

Makes the Pana 100-400 mm look like a bargain o:)

Anyway, the G9 looks interesting. Huge EVF and supposedly improved AF and tracking. A bit big though, but with a large lens on it this should not matter.

Vespobuteo Wednesday 8th November 2017 10:45

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Originally Posted by dalat (Post 3640812)
Makes the Pana 100-400 mm look like a bargain o:)

Anyway, the G9 looks interesting. Huge EVF and supposedly improved AF and tracking. A bit big though, but with a large lens on it this should not matter.

Also makes the Oly 300/4 look like a bargain, never thought that would happen o:)

nikonmike Wednesday 8th November 2017 11:46

Well ime very happy with the pricing, its made my decision a lot easier, i am no longer Nikon mike but back to being m4/3 mike.
Got a G80 this morning and 100-400 on its way to me

Vespobuteo Wednesday 8th November 2017 12:10

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Originally Posted by nikonmike (Post 3640836)
Well ime very happy with the pricing, its made my decision a lot easier, i am no longer Nikon mike but back to being m4/3 mike.
Got a G80 this morning and 100-400 on its way to me

Didn't you swap to Nikon because of a faulty 100-400mm leica that you never got back from service?

What do you hope to gain with the G80 + 100-400 combo vs the D500-100-400 sigma? Less weight and size? Reach?

:smoke:

nikonmike Wednesday 8th November 2017 12:31

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Originally Posted by Vespobuteo (Post 3640840)
Didn't you swap to Nikon because of a faulty 100-400mm leica that you never got back from service?

What do you hope to gain with the G80 + 100-400 combo vs the D500-100-400 sigma? Less weight and size? Reach?

:smoke:

Yes 3:-)

All three, the panny set up was just as good as the Nikon for my area of needs, dont get me wrong the D500 is a better camera but it goes way beyond what i need it to do.
The other big advantage for me is the EVF when photographing a bird in a tree or in flight to be able to see exposure adjustments in the viewfinder make it a lot better.
I do also know i can handhold the 100-400 @ 400mm at a lot lower shutter speed using the dual IS.

njlarsen Wednesday 8th November 2017 12:59

Mike, welcome back to the fold. I wonder how much of the pricing is introduction hype or in other words how soon we will start seeing rebates.

Niels

nikonmike Wednesday 8th November 2017 13:04

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Originally Posted by njlarsen (Post 3640854)
Mike, welcome back to the fold. I wonder how much of the pricing is introduction hype or in other words how soon we will start seeing rebates.

Niels

Thanks, nice to be back.

Think that will depend on how well it sells,i dont feel its overpriced if it lives up to the hype, if m4/3 is to continue and grow it needs the more expensive gear in the line up.
Lets be honest did we know how capable the G80 was.

Vespobuteo Wednesday 8th November 2017 13:19

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Originally Posted by nikonmike (Post 3640848)
Yes 3:-)

All three, the panny set up was just as good as the Nikon for my area of needs, dont get me wrong the D500 is a better camera but it goes way beyond what i need it to do.
The other big advantage for me is the EVF when photographing a bird in a tree or in flight to be able to see exposure adjustments in the viewfinder make it a lot better.
I do also know i can handhold the 100-400 @ 400mm at a lot lower shutter speed using the dual IS.

Ok, seems logical, portability is important and Dual IS/OIS will definitely beat the sigma. Hope you get a good copy this time. :t:


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