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Ingsbirder Monday 13th October 2008 14:25

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Originally Posted by Marcus Conway - ebirder (Post 1309035)
According to birdguides it's there again today. And a pectoral sandpiper! Jim seems we are not the only ones birding this flood!

NB birdguides ref is Barmby Moor

Yeah, I went for a look at dinnertime but no-one else has been birding it all...wish I'd known about it a few weeks back though but I'm sure it will get a bit of attention now and so it should - what a great little spot in the middle of nowhere - nice site find for both of you!!

I did see the Little Stint but it looked a very bog-standard juv to me in the company of 4 Dunlin, not sure if that was the bird that you had? The Pec was showing very well near the road end of the flash. I did see the 'Wood Sand' very briefly but only the top of the neck and head in the vegetation and then lost it and frustratingly couldn't refind it - based on the views I had then I honestly couldn't rule out something rarer, but presumably you saw the bird well yesterday.......... Also single Ruff and Greenshank plus good numbers of Lapwing and Teal and smal nos of Goldies.

Marcus Conway - ebirder Monday 13th October 2008 14:35

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Originally Posted by Ingsbirder (Post 1309046)
Yeah, I went for a look at dinnertime but no-one else has been birding it all...wish I'd known about it a few weeks back though but I'm sure it will get a bit of attention now and so it should - what a great little spot in the middle of nowhere - nice site find for both of you!!

I did see the Little Stint but it looked a very bog-standard juv to me in the company of 4 Dunlin, not sure if that was the bird that you had? The Pec was showing very well near the road end of the flash. I did see the 'Wood Sand' very briefly but only the top of the neck and head in the vegetation and then lost it and frustratingly couldn't refind it - based on the views I had then I honestly couldn't rule out something rarer, but presumably you saw the bird well yesterday.......... Also single Ruff and Greenshank plus good numbers of Lapwing and Teal and smal nos of Goldies.

We saw the bird well but briefly. We saw the whole of the bird viewing through the flattened hedge. We ruled out lesser yellow before the bird flew as we were setting up the scope...

Ingsbirder Monday 13th October 2008 14:41

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Originally Posted by Marcus Conway - ebirder (Post 1309051)
We saw the bird well but briefly. We saw the whole of the bird viewing through the flattened hedge. We ruled out lesser yellow before the bird flew as we were setting up the scope...

Great I got nothing on it which was frustrating as it was the bird that I actually went out there to look for based on the date but just happended to jam the Pec.

It just shows what can turn up in the middle of nowhere. A stubble field in the LDV a few years back was sprayed with slurry and they got carried away - it was transformed into a wader magnet overnight with big flocks of Ringed Plovers, Dunlin and Ruff, plus local scarcities such as Wood Sand, Curlew Sands and a Sanderling and yet it was in the middle of nowhere and was very easy to drive past without knowing it was a great (temporary) birding location!

James Thomas Monday 13th October 2008 15:06

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Originally Posted by Ingsbirder (Post 1309052)
Great I got nothing on it which was frustrating as it was the bird that I actually went out there to look for based on the date but just happended to jam the Pec.

It just shows what can turn up in the middle of nowhere. A stubble field in the LDV a few years back was sprayed with slurry and they got carried away - it was transformed into a wader magnet overnight with big flocks of Ringed Plovers, Dunlin and Ruff, plus local scarcities such as Wood Sand, Curlew Sands and a Sanderling and yet it was in the middle of nowhere and was very easy to drive past without knowing it was a great (temporary) birding location!


Not sure how temporary this will be. Two lads pulled over in a van, they farm pigs on this patch and another up the road. Anyway they were nice lads and really interested in what was on their field and were happy to share what knowledge they had. In the last year it has been almost permanently flooded only drying up for a short time over summer. I'm assuming this floods every year because they get 'loads of geese, shelduck and waders on there'. The water appears really shallow over a large area no doubt why it's so appealing.


Add to this that it's about half a mile from Allerthorpe Common and you've got two excellent and diverse patches for a good days birding.

Marcus Conway - ebirder Monday 13th October 2008 15:32

I beleive the phrase was 'there's loads of duck and stuff on ere. We see loads of geese and shelduck and stuff'. They were genuinely keen to to make sure we came back and hoped he could rent a field if something good turned up! Said we were ok to bird it for free for now though. Diversification indeed.

Ingsbirder Monday 13th October 2008 15:37

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Originally Posted by jtw521 (Post 1309064)
I'm assuming this floods every year because they get 'loads of geese, shelduck and waders on there'. The water appears really shallow over a large area no doubt why it's so appealing.


Add to this that it's about half a mile from Allerthorpe Common and you've got two excellent and diverse patches for a good days birding.

Be good if it stays this way then, but could well be that you could watch it every day for the next 5 years and see bugger all;)

There's a couple of birders who live in Pocklington plus another who goes from York to Pocklington every day so hopefully they'll start popping in on a regular basis and find a few other bits and pieces.

The whole of the York area, including the LDV, is massivley underwatched, there's loads of good habbo and no doubt plenty more places like this that will probably never get found!

As for Allerthorpe Common not my fave place locally, but your Crossbill count there was encouraging for looking through them for a Two-barred....

Ingsbirder Monday 13th October 2008 15:40

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Originally Posted by Marcus Conway - ebirder (Post 1309074)
I beleive the phrase was 'there's loads of duck and stuff on ere. We see loads of geese and shelduck and stuff'. They were genuinely keen to to make sure we came back and hoped he could rent a field if something good turned up! Said we were ok to bird it for free for now though. Diversification indeed.

Good on 'em, makes a change to meet folk who aren't whinging about having puddles in their fields, lets hope something can be found to encourage them further!!

Marcus Conway - ebirder Monday 13th October 2008 20:09

Mull trip report here and on the blog with pictures. Worth just to see the special 'seawatching suit'.

Now just got to write up the Cornwall trip and two times Filey trips and Allerthorpe. Good job I don't have a job!

markstenton Tuesday 14th October 2008 09:31

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Originally Posted by Marcus Conway - ebirder (Post 1308540)

Two were obviously dunlin and one was noticeably smaller. We watched the smaller wader in flight for several minutes, noting faint white wing bars and a white rump, possibly split. The bird also had a slightly different flight action to the dunlin.

Hi Marcus

found this info on Birdguides. Possibly you saw something different to the Pectoral Sandpiper now listed?

"Since it is bigger than a Dunlin, with a shorter bill and a fat-bodied, small-headed appearance it is perhaps most similar to a female Ruff. However, it is easily separated from almost all other waders by the sharp contrast between the dark-patterned chest and the white belly. It is this so-called pectoral line which gives the bird its name. Other distinctive features include its yellowish legs, pale base to the bill and two pairs of white lines down the back, like braces. In flight, the pale wingbar is so narrow it’s barely noticeable."

Regards

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 14th October 2008 09:47

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Originally Posted by markstenton (Post 1309664)
Hi Marcus

found this info on Birdguides. Possibly you saw something different to the Pectoral Sandpiper now listed?

"Since it is bigger than a Dunlin, with a shorter bill and a fat-bodied, small-headed appearance it is perhaps most similar to a female Ruff. However, it is easily separated from almost all other waders by the sharp contrast between the dark-patterned chest and the white belly. It is this so-called pectoral line which gives the bird its name. Other distinctive features include its yellowish legs, pale base to the bill and two pairs of white lines down the back, like braces. In flight, the pale wingbar is so narrow it’s barely noticeable."

Regards


Hi Mark, yes we thought the bird was a stint or a peep either semi p or just a dull unmarked little stint. Pec never really entered the equation :t: Although it would have been my 8th one this year if it had!!

Marcus

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 14th October 2008 09:56

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Originally Posted by imspartacustoo (Post 1309676)
did you not see the red footed falcon

Hi spartacus welcme to the tyke thread. I think you replied to a post that is a couple of years old ;) The red foot was still there yesterday showing well.

imspartacustoo Tuesday 14th October 2008 10:06

Richards Pipit
 
Anyone seen the Richards Pipit in Nottingham.
If so can you tell me how do you get there?
I understand it's on an old colliery site.
Thanks

markstenton Tuesday 14th October 2008 10:09

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Originally Posted by Marcus Conway - ebirder (Post 1309675)
Hi Mark, yes we thought the bird was a stint or a peep either semi p or just a dull unmarked little stint. Pec never really entered the equation :t: Although it would have been my 8th one this year if it had!!

Marcus

Sorry , not reading posts properly

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imspartacustoo Tuesday 14th October 2008 10:20

Thanks for that info on Red Foot.

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 14th October 2008 15:16

Dug out this old thread - see it was one of your first posts Lawts - ah the good old days!

birdieboy123 Tuesday 14th October 2008 15:21

Got a bit too much time on your hands now eh Marcus

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 14th October 2008 15:49

Jeez is it that obvious

Hotspur Tuesday 14th October 2008 19:47

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Originally Posted by markstenton (Post 1309664)
Hi Marcus

found this info on Birdguides. Possibly you saw something different to the Pectoral Sandpiper now listed?

"Since it is bigger than a Dunlin, with a shorter bill and a fat-bodied, small-headed appearance it is perhaps most similar to a female Ruff. However, it is easily separated from almost all other waders by the sharp contrast between the dark-patterned chest and the white belly. It is this so-called pectoral line which gives the bird its name. Other distinctive features include its yellowish legs, pale base to the bill and two pairs of white lines down the back, like braces. In flight, the pale wingbar is so narrow it’s barely noticeable."

Regards


Hi Mark - good to see you at Tophill, sorry about forgetting your name - had Mal going round my head but knew it wasnt right and didnt want to appear a berk. Hope you got the falcon and the Slav.

Lawts Tuesday 14th October 2008 22:00

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Originally Posted by Marcus Conway - ebirder (Post 1309848)
Dug out this old thread - see it was one of your first posts Lawts - ah the good old days!

Yea except I'm no further forward in my photography Marcus!

May be I'm just feeling fed up - booked my flights to Ireland, bought my euros today...........no news on the LBH. All I need now is the "back up" Phil Vireo to go the day before my flight, he says looking out at a full moon. Add to this the fact I'm getting grief from my boss for taking time off for a flight I might not even bother making.

I hate this hobby:C

liverpool_bob Tuesday 14th October 2008 23:01

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Originally Posted by Lawts (Post 1310112)
Yea except I'm no further forward in my photography Marcus!

May be I'm just feeling fed up - booked my flights to Ireland, bought my euros today...........no news on the LBH. All I need now is the "back up" Phil Vireo to go the day before my flight, he says looking out at a full moon. Add to this the fact I'm getting grief from my boss for taking time off for a flight I might not even bother making.

I hate this hobby:C

Pffft... imagine how sick you're gonna feel when you hear about the Pallas's Reed Bunting at Flamborough when you're in Ireland ;)

BirdFlower Wednesday 15th October 2008 04:31

Winter Thrushes
 
Any Redwings or Fieldfares about yet? Spurn have recorded a steady trickle so far in Oct but only tiny numbers.[/quote]

Hi Bob,

Flock of 30 Redwings on Spurn's Canal Zone yesterday morning which headed up & seemed off to Lincolnshire & then 100+ around the Crown & Anchor in Kilnsea. They seemed disorientated in the thick drizzle-mist. In the afternoon there were still a few along the hedges in Kilnsea. Didn't hear/see any Fieldfare, but 100+ Pink-feet heading south in the afternoon livened up a quiet session.


I think the Yorkshire Post on Saturday is going to have an article about Winter Thrushes, plus accompanying rarities
Cheers
Michael

James Thomas Wednesday 15th October 2008 09:57

Solstice Challenge?
 
The shortest day is a Sunday, it's just before Christmas, get yer shopping done early and have a day out. How many species on the shortest day of the year? No silly get up times 'cause its dark until nine and then dark again soon after. Will stick a thread on meetings later but anyone up for a central-ish meet like York or Fairburn?

loiner Wednesday 15th October 2008 11:30

There seems to have been little publicity, but today is the first day of a week-long European Plover Count. Between now and 22nd October, if you find any flocks of Lapwings or Golden Plover, please note the number of either or both, the date and location (name and grid reference). Counts should be submitted to BTO, via Birdtrack or as a roving Atlas visit on the web, or by post.
I had a look around the usual areas north of Leeds at the weekend, but most were deserted with only 70 Lapwing near Tadcaster and 300 Goldies at Wetherby.

zacatzooba Wednesday 15th October 2008 11:31

May be I'm just feeling fed up - booked my flights to Ireland, bought my euros today...........no news on the LBH. All I need now is the "back up" Phil Vireo to go the day before my flight, he says looking out at a full moon. Add to this the fact I'm getting grief from my boss for taking time off for a flight I might not even bother making.

I hate this hobby:C[/quote]

Good luck Steve,
I notice the LBH showing again today
rob

Keith Dickinson Wednesday 15th October 2008 19:31

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Originally Posted by jtw521 (Post 1310254)
The shortest day is a Sunday, it's just before Christmas, get yer shopping done early and have a day out. How many species on the shortest day of the year? No silly get up times 'cause its dark until nine and then dark again soon after. Will stick a thread on meetings later but anyone up for a central-ish meet like York or Fairburn?

I'd be up for a meet that day...celebrate my birthday with a bit of birding.


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