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skink1978 Monday 14th July 2008 16:52

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Originally Posted by liverpool_bob (Post 1243061)
I just found this report from 1995 - JNCC - which has them down as "locally common" (p17) but notes that there is little useful data about their population. Also sounds like they aren't restricted to water!


Cheers,
Bob.

Cheers Bob.

skink1978 Monday 14th July 2008 16:54

Storm Petrel ringing on Filey Brigg tonight. Meet on Carr Naze at 9:30PM. Anyone fancy it?

liverpool_bob Monday 14th July 2008 16:54

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Originally Posted by liverpool_bob (Post 1243061)
I just found this report from 1995 - JNCC - which has them down as "locally common" (p17) but notes that there is little useful data about their population. Also sounds like they aren't restricted to water!


Cheers,
Bob.

Another, this time from 2006 and much more detail. Looks like Yorks is a good area... Environment Agency

KnockerNorton Monday 14th July 2008 16:55

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Originally Posted by liverpool_bob (Post 1243061)
I just found this report from 1995 - JNCC - which has them down as "locally common" (p17) but notes that there is little useful data about their population. Also sounds like they aren't restricted to water!


Cheers,
Bob.

there is very little data indeed, compared to birds. Very few people go out trapping and finding shrews or small mammals - you need a licence (for shrews), the traps (Longworth) are expensive, not many people know where to submit casual records, not many people can identify them.

Water Shrews strike me as being a bit like moorhens in their habitat choices - if it's got a hint of dampness they'll likely be there. It doesn't have to be clean and running water.

darrenward Monday 14th July 2008 17:15

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Water Shrew Leighton Moss on way to Tim Jackson Hide, May 2004, and the White Storks..
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Daz

skink1978 Monday 14th July 2008 17:27

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Originally Posted by darrenward (Post 1243098)
Water Shrew Leighton Moss on way to Tim Jackson Hide, May 2004, and the White Storks..
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Probably the best Water Shrew pic I've seen. Nice one.

Chris-Leeds Monday 14th July 2008 18:19

Came across a water shrew a couple of years ago on a bike ride. Nearly picked it up to shift it out of danger, didn't know then about the toxic bite so it's a good thing I didn't.
Chris.

KnockerNorton Monday 14th July 2008 21:20

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Originally Posted by Chris-Leeds (Post 1243161)
Came across a water shrew a couple of years ago on a bike ride. Nearly picked it up to shift it out of danger, didn't know then about the toxic bite so it's a good thing I didn't.
Chris.

I got nipped when i was a kid, after catching one that ran out of a tussock in front of me. Had a numb tingly arm for about half an hour, up to the elbow.

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 15th July 2008 07:14

please can someone PM me the HB gen. thanks.

bitterntwisted Tuesday 15th July 2008 07:48

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Originally Posted by jimmy2faces (Post 1243530)
please can someone PM me the HB gen. thanks.

And me. Failed again at Wykeham on Saturday despite being there when three were reported. Is the 2nd car-park, and not the designated watchpoint, the place to be? May try again this weekend.

Graham

James Thomas Tuesday 15th July 2008 09:12

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Originally Posted by jimmy2faces (Post 1243530)
please can someone PM me the HB gen. thanks.


Are you at the cricket all weekend?

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 15th July 2008 09:39

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Originally Posted by jtw521 (Post 1243594)
Are you at the cricket all weekend?

yeah, but on gardening leave at the mo

markstenton Tuesday 15th July 2008 11:38

[QUOTE Is the 2nd car-park, and not the designated watchpoint, the place to be?

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I too would be grateful for a PM about this as planning a trip soon . As previously mentioned the instructions on the Forestry Commission website are a bit vague. According to Birdguides lunchtime seems to be good - would you all share this view? Presumably a warm day helps too?

Regards

loiner Tuesday 15th July 2008 11:46

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Originally Posted by NaturePete (Post 1241997)
Excuse my ignorance, but what's the full story of the Harewood birds? Are they accidental escapes, or free-roaming birds that live in the bird park most of the year? And is there just the two of them or more?

Following a record of three birds over Swillington Ings back in May, an enquiry to the Bird garden resulted in the admission that there are currently three free-flying birds from there.
I have seen up to four free-flying birds at Harewood and at present regularly see two birds around the lake on WEBS visit in the winter (when they probable get extra food from the enclosure) but rarely in summer, when they are presumably on their travels (if not breeding ferally). They have been traced to various counties both north and south of Yorkshire, and will travel considerable distances. One of these two birds is ringed but the other is unringed, making judging the provenance of a single straggler virtually impossible.

Pete Mella Tuesday 15th July 2008 12:13

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Originally Posted by loiner (Post 1243653)
Following a record of three birds over Swillington Ings back in May, an enquiry to the Bird garden resulted in the admission that there are currently three free-flying birds from there.
I have seen up to four free-flying birds at Harewood and at present regularly see two birds around the lake on WEBS visit in the winter (when they probable get extra food from the enclosure) but rarely in summer, when they are presumably on their travels (if not breeding ferally). They have been traced to various counties both north and south of Yorkshire, and will travel considerable distances. One of these two birds is ringed but the other is unringed, making judging the provenance of a single straggler virtually impossible.

Yeah, I've got an email back from Harewood today saying there's three free-flyers from there, plus two more in the area they're aware of - a "large male" and one wearing a red ring. Their birds were "home" at the weekend, but they couldn't rule out one having a pop across to Donny and back!

God help anyone who sees a genuine white stork in Yorkshire and tries to get it accepted...

Glaucous1 Tuesday 15th July 2008 12:27

If you're going for HB's, the designated raptor viewpoint is where I watch from, as it gives the best visibility of the valley and therefore the best chance of seeing one - the air space viewable from the first car park is very restricted.

They are less than a minutes drive from each other, so nothing to stop you doing both.

If I was going, I'd be there from 9.00am onwards. Tried yesterday for 1.5 hours, and didn't get any, but the weather was far from ideal.

At the end of the day you'll need luck, but the more people there the better - usually someone will pick one up.

Hotspur Tuesday 15th July 2008 13:37

I scored at about 11.30 looking westward up the valley from the raptor watchpoint. Ringing this morning about 1 mile inland from Filey Dams, not alot caught (2 Dunnocks, 1 Robin and a Willow Warbler) but loads of potential with a large mixed copse against a quarry face and some standing water. I imagine it will be crawling in Pied Fly's and phylloscs in the right conditions. Had a female Redstart there today sat on the net loops taunting us actually inside the pole but not the net. Next time!

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 15th July 2008 16:41

New website including full account of recent trip to the Farbes. It would be the best birding place on earth, if it was in Yorkshire that is.

It's taken a while to develop, but I hope you like it!!

www.ebirder.net

Marcus Conway - ebirder Tuesday 15th July 2008 16:45

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Originally Posted by jimmy2faces (Post 1243818)
New website including full account of recent trip to the Farbes. It would be the best birding place on earth, if it was in Yorkshire that is.

It's taken a while to develop, but I hope you like it!!

www.ebirder.net

EDIT - please update links if you link to the other site!!

Hotspur Tuesday 15th July 2008 17:15

Link updated

liverpool_bob Tuesday 15th July 2008 18:33

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Originally Posted by NaturePete (Post 1243671)
Yeah, I've got an email back from Harewood today saying there's three free-flyers from there, plus two more in the area they're aware of - a "large male" and one wearing a red ring. Their birds were "home" at the weekend, but they couldn't rule out one having a pop across to Donny and back!

God help anyone who sees a genuine white stork in Yorkshire and tries to get it accepted...

An unringed White Stork at Wansford yesterday... prob same Tophill in late June <HVWG>

Will keep my eyes out when I'm over this weekend!

Cheers,
Bob.

Pete Mella Tuesday 15th July 2008 20:00

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Originally Posted by liverpool_bob (Post 1243903)
An unringed White Stork at Wansford yesterday... prob same Tophill in late June <HVWG>

Will keep my eyes out when I'm over this weekend!

Cheers,
Bob.

Interesting... what was the consensus on the "tickability" of the Tophill bird?

I notice that the bird seen in Malton (not far from Wansford of course) on Saturday was sighted around 20 minutes before my sighting in Armthorpe. Enough time for a stork to fly there or is this likely to be two individuals?

liverpool_bob Tuesday 15th July 2008 21:06

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Originally Posted by NaturePete (Post 1243990)
Interesting... what was the consensus on the "tickability" of the Tophill bird?

No idea, but there must be some doubt.

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Originally Posted by NaturePete (Post 1243990)
I notice that the bird seen in Malton (not far from Wansford of course) on Saturday was sighted around 20 minutes before my sighting in Armthorpe. Enough time for a stork to fly there or is this likely to be two individuals?

How far, 40-50 miles? If so it must be two birds.


Cheers,
Bob.

Lawts Tuesday 15th July 2008 22:30

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Originally Posted by NaturePete (Post 1243671)
Yeah, I've got an email back from Harewood today saying there's three free-flyers from there, plus two more in the area they're aware of - a "large male" and one wearing a red ring. Their birds were "home" at the weekend, but they couldn't rule out one having a pop across to Donny and back!

God help anyone who sees a genuine white stork in Yorkshire and tries to get it accepted...

I was about to contact Harewood myself with the following four questions, so don't know if these have been answered from your mail:

1) How many free-flying White Storks does Harewood claim to "own" - i.e. whether currently in residence or not.

2) Are they currently all home?

3) What rings/absence of rings do they have?

4) Have they lost any birds over the last 3-5 years? If yes, what rings/absence of rings did they have?

I used to contact the bird garden curator on a regular basis, and also had a yearly ticket for a couple of years at one point. It sounds like your mail is similar to the responses I used to get - i.e. they don't seem to really know.

I'm assuming breeding has stopped there in the last few years.

Pete Mella Wednesday 16th July 2008 08:12

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How far, 40-50 miles? If so it must be two birds.
Ah, hadn't quite grasped the distance between the two places. A 120mph stork is something I'd like to see!

Quote:

1) How many free-flying White Storks does Harewood claim to "own" - i.e. whether currently in residence or not.

2) Are they currently all home?

3) What rings/absence of rings do they have?

4) Have they lost any birds over the last 3-5 years? If yes, what rings/absence of rings did they have?
My email basically said I'd seen one and was asking if theirs were "home" at the weekend, and this is the reply I got.

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Our three storks were here over the weekend, but can't say that they haven't been to Doncaster, as they seem to cover large distances quite quickly. The large male from elsewhere is still around and the one that has been seen with a red ring is not ours, is also still around.
regards

Marcus Conway - ebirder Wednesday 16th July 2008 19:25

Finally got Honey buzzard onto the yearlist, on my third trip to Wykeham this year. I had excellent views , but for an entirely unfair 10 seconds or so.

Spent the earlier part of the morning at Allerthorpe, where a good number of bird were still singing - tree pipit, chiff chaff, blackcap and garden warbler all in song. Family party of green woodpeckers too. Managed three adders, which were a lizard lifer.

Keith Dickinson Wednesday 16th July 2008 19:29

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Originally Posted by jimmy2faces (Post 1244650)
Finally got Honey buzzard onto the yearlist, on my third trip to Wykeham this year. I had excellent views , but for an entirely unfair 10 seconds or so.

Spent the earlier part of the morning at Allerthorpe, where a good number of bird were still singing - tree pipit, chiff chaff, blackcap and garden warbler all in song. Family party of green woodpeckers too. Managed three adders, which were a lizard lifer.

Should have come with you shouldn't I? Adder would have been a lifer for me too.
So 10 secs view...does that mean no pictures??;)

Marcus Conway - ebirder Wednesday 16th July 2008 19:34

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Originally Posted by Keith Dickinson (Post 1244651)
Should have come with you shouldn't I? Adder would have been a lifer for me too.
So 10 secs view...does that mean no pictures??;)

In Scotland when things got desperate I would leave the camera in the car. Thought I would try it again, and hey presto! I guess I spend more time looking than fiddling with my camera!

Marcus Conway - ebirder Wednesday 16th July 2008 21:00

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Pete Mella Thursday 17th July 2008 09:34

I've got Monday off work, and thinking of spending it mopping up two species that have managed to evade me this Spring - pied flycatcher and whinchat.

I know pied fly will be a challenge this time of year, but does anyone know any sites within bus-distance of Sheffield which delivers a good chance of both?

liverpool_bob Thursday 17th July 2008 13:46

This weekend
 
Making my visit for July.

Not sure where best to put my effort, tbh. Nothing obvious to tick for the year and the weather doesn't look inspiring either. Had a Little Egret last July (only patch tick of 2007) but there was flood water everywhere then so can't see that happening again.

I suppose I could go looking for that Chough ;)


Cheers,
Bob.

Hotspur Thursday 17th July 2008 14:48

Congratulations on your photo of the week for birdguides marcus, its an immense shot and some of the highest praise ive seen meted out 'When does a bird image class as art?'. Well done.

skink1978 Thursday 17th July 2008 16:05

Told you Adders are easier than Capers Marcus. Did you get the female under tin 5? A little gripped about the Honey Bas**ds however.

liverpool_bob Thursday 17th July 2008 18:36

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Originally Posted by liverpool_bob (Post 1240012)
One of the Red Kites in the Wolds has been shot, but survived - Driffield Times

More info...scarboroughwildlife.org.uk

Turns out it was a wanderer from Northants!

Chris-Leeds Thursday 17th July 2008 19:09

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Originally Posted by Hotspur (Post 1245103)
Congratulations on your photo of the week for birdguides marcus, its an immense shot and some of the highest praise ive seen meted out 'When does a bird image class as art?'. Well done.


Excellent, I wouldn't be surprised if someone wanted to buy it. RSPB front cover material.

Keith Dickinson Thursday 17th July 2008 19:24

I'll second Chris ... definite cover shot material.
So you ain't just fiddling with the camera are you Marcus?

skink1978 Thursday 17th July 2008 19:34

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Originally Posted by Keith Dickinson (Post 1245256)
I'll second Chris ... definite cover shot material.
So you ain't just fiddling with the camera are you Marcus?

Are you suggesting he's fiddling small sea birds?

Keith Dickinson Thursday 17th July 2008 19:40

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Originally Posted by skink1978 (Post 1245260)
Are you suggesting he's fiddling small sea birds?

FOTFLMAO my retort was in reply to Marcus saying he was often fiddling with the camera to no avail, but the picture you bring to mind is hilarious Mike.
You can just see Marcus, in full cammo gear saying to the puffins...'wanna see some sandeels?'

Pete Mella Thursday 17th July 2008 19:49

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Originally Posted by Hotspur (Post 1245103)
Congratulations on your photo of the week for birdguides marcus, its an immense shot and some of the highest praise ive seen meted out 'When does a bird image class as art?'. Well done.

Agreed, that's a great shot. Well done.

James Thomas Thursday 17th July 2008 20:08

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Originally Posted by Keith Dickinson (Post 1245262)
You can just see Marcus, in full cammo gear saying to the puffins...'wanna see some sandeels?'

Cammo on Farne would be a heap of guano.


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