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Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Friday 15th September 2017, 14:10
Replies: 25
Views: 2,192
Posted By Kirk Roth
When I was doing research on Cerulean Warblers,...

When I was doing research on Cerulean Warblers, one oddity was that on several occasions we would get responses to playback from Louisiana Waterthrushes, which by all accounts are very different both...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Tuesday 12th September 2017, 19:16
Replies: 49
Views: 18,513
Posted By Kirk Roth
Anecdotally, I've noticed several godwits, both...

Anecdotally, I've noticed several godwits, both Hudsonian and Marbled, with broken or nonfunctional legs time and again over the years. Its been curious to me why I've seen so much leg injury in...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Wednesday 19th July 2017, 13:39
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
And also more sampling from the New World among...

And also more sampling from the New World among the Red Crossbills - nearly nothing from the east (Newfoundland would be of interest), Alaska, or Mexico, and more New World samples overall would help...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Monday 17th July 2017, 18:47
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
The short answer is "no." See Figure 1 in the...

The short answer is "no."

See Figure 1 in the crossbill proposal: http://checklist.aou.org/assets/proposals/PDF/2017-A.pdf for a good illustration. If the Mexican Crossbill ever gets split, there...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Sunday 9th July 2017, 15:42
Replies: 21
Views: 2,016
Posted By Kirk Roth
Well put, Jim, except at some point we at Bird...

Well put, Jim, except at some point we at Bird Forum are going to have to learn to stop taking the bait on this tired but admittedly amusing argument. :eat:

I feel like there isn't a real need to...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Thursday 6th July 2017, 15:54
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
You are certainly right that this was confusing -...

You are certainly right that this was confusing - not only in terms of the proposal and voting layout... but also the result, especially in light of comments on other proposals!
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Monday 3rd July 2017, 13:48
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
I believe the toucanet change did not pass - 4...

I believe the toucanet change did not pass - 4 yes votes, 5 no and 1 abstention.
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Monday 3rd July 2017, 13:43
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
It "almost" makes more sense when you notice that...

It "almost" makes more sense when you notice that the comments betray that at least two of the Committee members have an interpretation of the Biological Species Concept that is a bit extreme. Some...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Monday 3rd July 2017, 12:55
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
It should also be stated however that among the...

It should also be stated however that among the comments, many were sparse and some were curious, if not confusing. I found it disturbing that one of the committee wrote that there was a "lack of...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Thursday 6th April 2017, 14:12
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
Certainly both Alexander Wilson and myself have...

Certainly both Alexander Wilson and myself have been wrong about several things, but when Wilson was writing his vol 3 of American Ornithology in 1811, he referred to the "Pine-creeping Warbler...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Tuesday 4th April 2017, 16:10
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
And now the Redpoll and Crossbill are up, among...

And now the Redpoll and Crossbill are up, among others (Northern Shrike, Grayson's Thrush). I guess I'm just impatient!
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Monday 3rd April 2017, 13:37
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
Its odd that some of the more notable actions are...

Its odd that some of the more notable actions are not included: the creeper split, the crossbill split, the redpoll lump...

If memory serves me correctly, all they did with this update was add the...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Thursday 30th March 2017, 14:43
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
There is no perfect name for the americana...

There is no perfect name for the americana daughter.

- Northern - except for familiaris*
- Brown - also less ideal in a global context, (or any other - some are practically grayish)
- Nearctic -...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Wednesday 29th March 2017, 18:13
Replies: 213
Views: 26,936
Posted By Kirk Roth
"Nearctic (or Northern? or Brown?) Treecreeper"...

"Nearctic (or Northern? or Brown?) Treecreeper" would also have the benefit of separating the bird from North America's other creeper, the Black and White...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Thursday 9th March 2017, 15:01
Replies: 9
Views: 1,350
Posted By Kirk Roth
I agree that MCSC seems to be nearly a subset of...

I agree that MCSC seems to be nearly a subset of BSC in term of its theoretical layout, as does the author - "The central idea of the biological species concept—that species represent discrete gene...
Forum: Birds & Birding Thursday 15th December 2016, 14:55
Replies: 97
Views: 22,963
Posted By Kirk Roth
I'll at least put forth that there are those who...

I'll at least put forth that there are those who disagree that the BSC is in "dire straits" outside ornithology. It is true that, at least in North America, herpetology has seemed to have completely...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Sunday 28th August 2016, 20:43
Replies: 61
Views: 4,716
Posted By Kirk Roth
At risk of escalating on a thread that already...

At risk of escalating on a thread that already seems too argumentative for my liking - here is a blog that features several examples of nighthawks perching in all sorts of positions:...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Friday 26th August 2016, 14:50
Replies: 61
Views: 4,716
Posted By Kirk Roth
I might agree with Niels that "difference" may be...

I might agree with Niels that "difference" may be a more useful defining quality for Orders than relatedness might be. I'm not even all that convinced that embeddedness is a problem - because every...
Forum: Bird Identification Q&A Monday 11th July 2016, 14:18
Replies: 7
Views: 774
Posted By Kirk Roth
And while I hate to be "that guy," also note that...

And while I hate to be "that guy," also note that they hybridize in the gulf coast as well.

I agree with the other comments that the overall color is not bold and orange enough for our typical...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Sunday 10th July 2016, 21:23
Replies: 151
Views: 21,577
Posted By Kirk Roth
This one might be even funnier: "Yet with the...

This one might be even funnier:

"Yet with the Oldsquaw that is the one I do hear complaining about, though no one who wines knows why the name was changed."

a very sobering statement,

B (:
Forum: Bird Identification Q&A Monday 6th June 2016, 15:11
Replies: 6
Views: 344
Posted By Kirk Roth
This is a Common Grackle (cf bill and tail size...

This is a Common Grackle (cf bill and tail size especially), but there is a very localized population of breeding Brewer's Blackbirds in north central Indiana. They have been seen for several years...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Sunday 29th May 2016, 17:23
Replies: 146
Views: 19,441
Posted By Kirk Roth
Richard, thank you for the information, insight,...

Richard, thank you for the information, insight, humor, and temperance you've displayed on this forum - I hope that all of us can be inspired by your example and strive for "Klim-like" posts in the...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Thursday 14th January 2016, 15:33
Replies: 9
Views: 1,334
Posted By Kirk Roth
In an otherwise unremarkable article about the...

In an otherwise unremarkable article about the apparent difficulty of using an index in a field guide, there is this interesting quote from the last paragraph:

" the IOC list is the one currently...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Friday 13th November 2015, 15:59
Replies: 130
Views: 22,537
Posted By Kirk Roth
Indeed, I can't think of any U.S/Canadian...

Indeed, I can't think of any U.S/Canadian researcher I know personally who endorses or praises it. And amongst birders, very few are even aware of it.

If I were to "vote," I feel that IOC paints a...
Forum: Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature Thursday 12th November 2015, 14:53
Replies: 130
Views: 22,537
Posted By Kirk Roth
It could be argued that TIF is a roguish and...

It could be argued that TIF is a roguish and unlikely fifth option.
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