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  1. andrew147

    Time calibration and Linnean ranks in birds

    I've also seen 'spangled plovers'.
  2. andrew147

    Antpitta

    Also, is the 'Dancing' Antpitta from Cali still undescribed? (Paper "coming soon" 5 years ago) https://www.birdguides.com/news/antpitta-discovered-in-colombia-is-new-to-science/#:~:text=The%20bird%20does%20not%20yet,dance')%20in%20this%20fashion.
  3. andrew147

    Phylogeny of birds

    Cursorimorphae
  4. andrew147

    Phylogeny of birds

    No, they don't name it (or if they do, I can't find the info). Are there any reasons we should favour this phylogeny over previous ones? Some of the 'loose ends' seem to be conveniently tied up - e.g. grebes/flamingos, pigeons/cuckoos, hoatzin - and I'd like to trust that ...but the...
  5. andrew147

    Certhioidea

    I can send both if you pm me your email address
  6. andrew147

    Certhioidea

    Already sent :)
  7. andrew147

    Certhioidea

    I have this paper, pm me if you need it.
  8. andrew147

    Corvoidea

    Agree we need more data before anything official happens but I enjoy the speculation :) Plumage-wise, if we ignore chrysoptera, there is a pattern which also makes biogeographical sense. Western black-capped group Eastern white-headed group Northern (Papuan/Queensland) striated group...
  9. andrew147

    Corvoidea

    It would be good to have Neosittidae with Neositta in it, that's for sure - but only c. 5 million years of separation. Extra support for paraphyly of D. chrysoptera more noteworthy for me - and ancient divergence within Alaeadryas, Cinclosoma ajax, Pachycephala soror & Melanorectes. Interesting...
  10. andrew147

    Nectariniidae

    How is it accessible please? I can't see anything like that on the article page
  11. andrew147

    Nectariniidae

    So where is this tree? It's not in the paper and there don't seem to be supplements. Very anticlimactic!
  12. andrew147

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    To maintain Lava Heron, 3 NW spp must be recognised (as Lava is closer to virescens than either is to striata). TiF treatment seems highly premature. We don't know what is going on with migratory and sedentary forms in eastern Asia and some of the island sspp are interesting and morphologically...
  13. andrew147

    Ardeidae

    Division amongst sampled OW sspp seems to be African/Indian Ocean v's Asian/Australasian and I have allocated sspp to follow this. However, there are some distinctive sspp on the Maldives & the Chagros Is and elsewhere which are not considered in this paper. A more thorough analyses would...
  14. andrew147

    Ardeidae

    The only explicit recommendation is for 3 species in the New World and this is sibling to a diverse Old World group.
  15. andrew147

    Ardeidae

    Mendales (2023) Ultraconserved elements resolve the phylogeny of a globally distributed genus, Butorides (Masters thesis) https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/concern/theses/hd76s649j Supports idea that NW & OW forms represent separate lineages; also that sundevalli is most closely related to...
  16. andrew147

    AOS to discard patronyms in English names

    The point I was making is that naming these birds after 'prominent' people, frequently people who did not contribute to ornithology, was a political move in the first place. So, to complain that re-naming them is political does not pack the intended punch.
  17. andrew147

    AOS to discard patronyms in English names

    Naming things after rich people was and still is a political statement.
  18. andrew147

    AOS to discard patronyms in English names

    It would be excellent if the AOS took this opportunity to fix other chronic English name problems. e.g. replace Parulid 'warbler' with parula, replace Passerellid 'sparrow' with towhee/junco, replace Icterid 'oriole' with troupial... I honestly don't know if this comment will inflame or...
  19. andrew147

    Subspecies groups and future splits

    Ssp flavicollis is pink crowned. The grey (white) crowned group is P. [r.] xanthogaster.
  20. andrew147

    Subspecies groups and future splits

    BOTIA describes as lacking red bill base and appearing very heavy-billed and that "this and some of the other Thick-billed Pigeons on islands off Sumatra may well merit specific status". Barusan would include ssp smicrus. Certainly they look different.
  21. andrew147

    Tyrannides

    I tentatively have as: Central American Sharpbill Oxyruncus [c.] frater Amazonian Sharpbill Oxyruncus [c.] hypoglaucus Peruvian Sharpbill Oxyruncus [c.] sp/ssp nov. Southeastern Sharpbill Oxyruncus [c.] cristatus Each lineage is >1 my old. There are still several un-named populations...
  22. andrew147

    Tyrannides

    Cladogram from paper attached. They don't recommend an English name. The obvious non-honorific English name would be Sucunduri Schiffornis ...though could also go for something more creative - e.g. Indistinguishable Schiffornis 😆
  23. andrew147

    Subspecies groups and future splits

    From Peter's (who lists as a synonym of delicata): Columba plumbea andicola Chubb, Bull. Brit. Orn. CL, 38, 1917, p. 32. (Mapiri, Bolivia.) Eastern Colombia south through eastern Ecuador and Peru to Bolivia. The type location (La Paz Department, Bolivia) corresponds to vocal group 3 meaning...
  24. andrew147

    Subspecies groups and future splits

    By resurrecting a few synonyms, the 5 vocal forms look like: Bogota Plumbeous Pigeon Patagioenas [p.] bogotensis (incl. chapmani) Peruvian Plumbeous Pigeon Patagioenas [p.] delicata (incl. pallescens) Yungas Plumbeous Pigeon Patagioenas [p.] andicola Guianan Plumbeous Pigeon Patagioenas [p.]...
  25. andrew147

    Subspecies groups and future splits

    Is there a reference for this one? I thought the divide was: (i) Colombian/Venezuelan linearis + Santa Marta "infusca" (ii) Trinidad trinitatis + Paria Peninsula "pariae"
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