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  1. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Gruiformes and Charadriiformes

    He cited his contemporaries, sometimes using their French name (this is verified in editions from 1758 and the followings) and that is why I remain doubtful as to the species for which the name "Bécasseau" was originally intended because ancient authors (including Linnaeus and Gmelin) linked it...
  2. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Gruiformes and Charadriiformes

    You answer one of my questions without me having to ask it
  3. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Gruiformes and Charadriiformes

    That's why I didn't understand x) Because, if ochropus is the current type species of Tringa, It doesn't say whether Linnaeus originally considered these two names to belong to two different birds. It is difficult to know what Linnaeus was thinking at this time despite the references he cited
  4. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Gruiformes and Charadriiformes

    I only find it in this edition but I have the impression that Tringa and Ochropus must have originally referred to two different species, unfortunately I don't understand the Swedish https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/view/bsb10076011?page=59
  5. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Links to digitized versions of original sources of bird names

    One of the links answers my question which was the meaning of the acronym FN behind some names, it was in fact Fauna Svecica. Do we know the publication dates of all Systema Naturae up to the tenth and if they are all online?
  6. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Links to digitized versions of original sources of bird names

    I spoke too quickly. Merci
  7. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Links to digitized versions of original sources of bird names

    It could be indeed. I'm going to read Coues' publication. Too bad this sixth edition is not elsewhere because I would like to download it Ok, you are right, the typo comes from Coues. I should have been more attentive. I wondered about the choice of the name Procellaria and obviously, this...
  8. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Links to digitized versions of original sources of bird names

    Citing Jobling: "The genus Procellaria first appears in 1746, in the sixth edition of the Systemæ Naturæ" how interpreted that ? A typo from Joblin ? 🤷 https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/key-to-scientific-names/search?q=Procellaria+
  9. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Links to digitized versions of original sources of bird names

    The Key of James Joblin says 1746 about the genus Procellaria
  10. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Links to digitized versions of original sources of bird names

    Is there an online version of the sixth edition of the Systema Naturae from 1746 ?
  11. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Nesospiza

    That's not me who's going to answer you lol
  12. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Aegithalidae

    Ok.
  13. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Aegithalidae

    Does this imply two potential species?
  14. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Nesospiza

    What justifies to keep Nesospiza and Rowettia as different genera of Melanodera? I would put everything in one genus
  15. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Island radiations

    Yeah thanks 😁
  16. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Island radiations

    Damn, no way to download
  17. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Ok But regarding the names of Brisson, they cannot be rejected and I don't know if each of his names is a special case. We should have invented the principle of Brissonian tautonymy, instead of tautonymy. It's all really complicated and I was never really interested in all aspects of the Code
  18. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Didn't we talk about a similar case some time ago? I don't know if it was with Myiophila
  19. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48588#page/94/mode/1up https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/57406#page/144/mode/1up Gray (1840 and 1855) included Morus in the synonymy of Sula. Shouldn't the two genera carry the same type species?
  20. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Give me a valid genus name created by Brisson which contains a type species in his work? I don't think I know any of them
  21. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Because we must based on this description (below) and not that of the supplement which are species that he added in his genus Gobemouche https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/111092#page/503/mode/1up
  22. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Was one species among these four chosen as the type species?
  23. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Ah lol. http://jboyd.net/Taxo/Orders-Stiller.pdf http://jboyd.net/Taxo/Orders-Kuhl.pdf
  24. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Each study gives different results. When you don't know anything about it, it's difficult to know which relationship gives the strongest support
  25. Jim LeNomenclatoriste

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    April 2024 April 5 Bird Orders I'm adopting the new Stiller et al. (2024) phylogeny of the bird orders. I had been planning to switch to Kuhl et al. (2021), but changed my mind after Stiller et al. appeared. Both seem to have broken though the polytomy that had left the modern avian tree of life...
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