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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
MV, You really are showing your naiivety on the subject of wing formula and feather wear. Just to clear up some points on CJW's post about the wing formula - unfortunately the person who had passed on the info had numbered the primaries descendantly and not ascendantly (the standard method)...- Manxman
- Post #93
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
What do you think we've been trying to do since this bird was found???!!!.... We've so far got emails from 1 person who has seen pallidirostris on breeding grounds and said that males could show black bill and lores. I've also sopken two people who have seen birds in North Africa and they too...- Manxman
- Post #75
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
I could think of more polite ways of putting it MV! In essence the problem is a complete lack of literature on black-billed Steppe. There is literature however on North African races showing features that fit this bird. CJW has done a lot of research on this (as have myself and another local...- Manxman
- Post #70
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Now to really put the cat amongst the pigeons (or should that be shrikes)... Has anyone thought about the North African races - it fits very nicely as an 'interbreed' of that geographical area. Various literature (BWP, Shrikes & Bush Shrikes, Birding World 8/8) all state that several North...- Manxman
- Post #68
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
The Malvinas..... I didnt know the Argies had taken over the FALKLAND ISLANDS (to use their proper name). And whos being retentive.... There was a good laxative just advertised on the TV if you've got a medical problem??- Manxman
- Post #49
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
As far as I'm concerned, my list covers the British Isles (in which I would be happy to include England, Scotland, Wales, IOM, NI & Eire), lets face it - I need all the help I can get with my list.... Oh yes, that Mourning Dove was very nice indeed, all the way from America without a Russian...- Manxman
- Post #44
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
I would usually explain why the IOM isn't included in the British list Steve, but looking at your entries in the ringing/banding forum you seem uneducated and so probably wouldnt understand...;)- Manxman
- Post #40
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
unfortunately nothing as sharp as yours peetee! did you get any nice sharp shots of the wing (showing primary projection and p2 length would be good...)? The total is upto about 200 photos of this bird now - about half have gone straight in the recycle bin!!!:cool:- Manxman
- Post #35
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
I think that the finder of the bird has been misinterpreted chaps... It was a memebr of the local birdwatching society who found the bird and identified it as a Great Grey Shrike. He then rang a local bird charity (Manx Bird Atlas) who then informed the 'serious' birding fraternity after...- Manxman
- Post #33
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A
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"Mystery grey shrike on the isle of Man"
Talking of visiting birders... If anyone does have the pleasure of twitching this bird can we ask you to be mindful that the area is an ASSI containing several rare plant/insect/reptile species not to mention several species of ground nesting birds. As such the land owners (IOM Government Dept...- Manxman
- Post #27
- Forum: Bird Identification Q&A