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    My understanding now is that a proven Littoralis seen this spring in this country had white wedge in T5!! This is a disaster from the point of view of properly identifying these, and I wonder about the tenure of the split. I attach a couple of photo's, no tricks, of a bird that at the time was...
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    Thanks for your comments Stuart and TWM. As you can see from the additional pictures, the bird is in fact just a Meadow. The initial photo was not put there to trick anyone, just to show how variable birds can be, even within species with no races or clinal variation. The pink on the breast...
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    This is a very intriguing discussion. The more photos I see, the more difficult this seems to become. Tris - your originals also looked quite littoralis-like to me, but the newer pics you have posted look smack on for Wapit. Chris, the last lot you posted ALL looked like littoralis to me. The...
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    Crikey - we'll let Chris W or Stephen D sort 'em out in flight shall we?? GV
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    On the subject of the identifiability of spinoletta v's littoralis, I sit on a local rarities committee in the Midlands, where the picture might superficially be clearer. One would think that in middle England, spinoletta (spin from now on)would be regular in spring, whilst petrosus/littoralis...
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    On the original photo, the leg colour is a distinctively bright orangey pink, though the bright sunlight may be enhancing this. The breast also has a clearly distinct pale pinkish to it. Just goes to show how tricky these are.... Any more comments from others would be welcomed, as this bird...
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    Hi Posted a pic of a bird taken by a friend, unfortunately I didn't ask him first. Subsequent posts may now make no sense - apologies. Sean
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    Very interesting post, Darrell, and also very interesting pics. The left hand one looks a classic littoralis, the right hand one looks a classic petrosus. Any comments now Chris on whether you think littoralis can be id'd in wp? Sean
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