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  1. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    I wouldn't take what common names are or are not used too seriously. This is a one-man project, and he probably just needed a place-holder name and should the split happen will happily go with whatever SACC or IOC decide to use. Hell, it's not like whole committees of people haven't come up...
  2. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    February 25 Tinamous: The new arrangement of the Tinamidae follows Figure 2 of Musher et al. (2024). The current species tree marks the species with new DNA data using bright red asterisks. Only one species was not sampled, the Slaty-breasted Tinamou, Tinamus boucardi. Its placement...
  3. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    February 20 South American Snipe: I needed to make an adjustment to the TiF list because of my trip to Tierra del Fuego in late January. Specifically, I recognized the SACC split of South American Snipe, Gallinago paraguaiae into Pantanal Snipe, Gallinago paraguaiae and Magellanic Snipe...
  4. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    This isn't listed in the updates, but this bit on the page for Ardeiformes looks new, and a 4 way split of Great Egret definitely isn't something I have come across before: http://jboyd.net/Taxo/List8a.html#ardeiformes Kushlan and Hancock (2005) and Christidis and Boles (2008) suggested...
  5. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Oh yeah...Lava was just assumed....I forget it's not widely recognized.
  6. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Yeah...this is an entirely PSC split, which is the case with most of the more "novel" TiF splits. Eared Grebe being an example I always think of, not to mention the recent backtracked Great Cormorant split. Personally I really only see an argument for splitting the Old vs New World forms at this...
  7. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    And I thought I was daring breaking up nightjars into subfamilies. Although level of taxonomic rank aside, it matches pretty closely what I did with nightjars last month January 2024 January 12 Nightjars: Families Because of both the age of certain nightjar genera and biogeographic...
  8. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    I am just copying and pasting from the Taxonomy in-flux website. You would have to chat with the operator of the website, although he usually is good about putting references on his bibliography page. Actually the inclusion of Lithornithidae at all surprises me. Boyd generally hasn't included...
  9. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Yeah, this does seem like a situation where ICZN would maybe rule in a way that retains the status quo. I was just curious for my own phylogeny project, if it would be better to wait and see. Also, on a unrelated note, the tackling of Paleognaths makes me hopeful that with his retirement John...
  10. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    What are folks thoughts on the Tinamus situation cited above?
  11. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Well...I mean you don't "Have to", but its easier to keep track of changes and talk about them if they are in one spot, rather than scattered all over the place
  12. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    December 13 Lithornithiformes: Recent work (e.g., Worthy et al., 2017;Yonezawa et al., 2017). suggests that the Lithornithiformes are sister torest of the known Paleognaths, rather than being sister to theTinamiformes. Whether this is correct remains uncertain. A mesozoicLithornithidae fossil...
  13. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Wasn't aare BL only recognized one Redpoll. I don't believe they have covered finches yet, at least publically. So it could be tackled then, although they seem to also be holding off North America related taxonomic changes. So even if they address the redpolls, we might not see that reflected...
  14. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    IIRC, IOC currently recognizes three redpoll species too, unless I am confused on your comment. This whole issue might eventually be addressed by the WGAC, but not until after the reconciliation process is finished and the checklist is published, which might be some time off.
  15. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    I think NACC is the holdout here. I have no doubt if they voted for a lump everyone else would quickly follow.
  16. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Another update, this one more of a housekeeping one: August 24 I've made some changes based on the 64th supplement to the AOS checklist, plus made a couple of housekeeping changes. Antrostomus Nightjars:Following the AOS 64th supplement, I've split theGreater Antillean Nightjar, Antrostomus...
  17. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    August 9 New Genus Name (Burhinidae):Černý, van Els, Natale, and Gregory (2023) proposed a new genusname for one of the thick-knees (Burhinidae). The name isHesperoburhinus and the type is bistriatus. I had previouslycalled these "Burhinus" for lack of a proper name. [Burhinidae...
  18. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    They do correspond to the Clements and mostly the HBW subspecies groups
  19. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    What aspect? I'm not terribly convinced by the Great Cormorant splits personally. They might be valid, but I don't think there is enough evidence yet, given that divergences are somewhat young, hybridization is apparent, and morphological differences don't seem that significant.
  20. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    August 6 Cormorants: Genus UpdatesThis took longer than expected to write up, partly because writing it upconvinced me to take a closer look at certain issues. The key papers areKennedy et al. (2023) and Rawlence et al. (2022). We start with the genuschanges: The Long-tailed Cormorant /...
  21. Mysticete

    Taxonomy in-flux updates

    Seems like it might make more sense to have one thread to cover updates to the site, rather than scatter them everywhere, or have to create new threads for groups without existing ones. Anyway, the most recent one: July 25 Loons:There's only one relevant work on Loons, Sprengelmeyer's (2014)...
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