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  1. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    Kevin, Have you read through his reviews in his blog? He is an extreme Viper fan and rates them as being better than what I consider better competition. Not that there is anything wrong with the Viper, but after just now comparing my Viper to the ZEN, I wonder how he would rate it against the...
  2. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    pw53, What I see as a lot of buyers not getting is not so much here. This Promaster/Hawke discussion is going on in other forums as well. So that was a collective comment. In other forums the "made in China" seems to be a big deal. Also there is a lot of decades old training out there that...
  3. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    Wanna bet that with the US Bank bailout and with the weakining Euro and seemingly impending European Bank disasters , that price structures on all sorts of stuff goes a little crazy?
  4. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    I would still tell people that the Promaster ELX ED is a bargin at $750. Even if the price has gone up $50 you still have the opportunity to buy the best binocular, in the Promaster and from all appearances the Hawke, that has ever been produced in its price range. How cheap do you want? Yes...
  5. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    Huang, I for one , bid you welcome. There are certainly lots of questions regarding the Chinese Optics industry. Someone working there would save a lot of plain old guess work. There are lots of questrion regarding OEM-seller relationships and what binoculars with different labels might be...
  6. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    Owen, I hear you for sure. I've heard some very good things about the Minox 13x56, so that has my interest. I figure if I sell some binoculars that I no longer use much, I'll about be able to get one. The more I think about the 10x Promaster I mentioned in my last post, the more I think...
  7. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    I sort of hope you don't like the Hawke too. I know what I'm getting with the Promaster. I have this feeling that you will and then we're both going to be in a quandry. Part of me thinks that I really need to sell the 10x and get a scope or 12x+ glass to use with a tripod. It is hard to see...
  8. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    OK Frank, I'm glad you bit the bullet. Now that you will post a good review of the Hawke, I just might change my Promaster plan. That order will go to CameralandNY on Tuesday. Payday gives me the last few needed $$. So, now I think I'll maybe order the 10x Promaster. I don't use the 10x a...
  9. Steve C

    Hawke Frontier ED: another open bridge ED bin from China

    Kevin, Thanks for the Hawke links. One of those dealers is just 25 miles up the freeway from me. They have some Hawke in stock, but not the Frontier ED. Them; "We can order you one!", Me: So can I order me one, I want to see one first". Man, I get tired of that refrain "sorry we don't have...
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