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  1. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    Yes. (I think it may be questionable that this name is really an adjective, but the OS is coromanda -- should it be deemed not adjectival, it would be the currently accepted coromandus that would be problematic.)
  2. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    FWIW: Ardea modesta Gray 1831 The zoological miscellany - Biodiversity Heritage Library is from India. Herodias syrmatophorus Gould 1846 v.6 (1848) - The birds of Australia - Biodiversity Heritage Library is from Australia. Herodias alba maoriana Mathews & Iredale 1913 ser.10:v.1=no.1-4 (1913) -...
  3. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    The uncompressed data includes close to 5,000 files, for a total of about 4 Gb, it's not something that can be attached to an email. If you have a relatively recent version of Windows (I assume you use Windows, otherwise the problem would not even occur), it seems you should be able to extract...
  4. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    The .md file is a plain text file, which explains what the contents of the tar.gz file is. The .tar.gz is a compressed archive file (similar to a .zip, but in a different format), so you should do a second extraction if you want to see what it contains.
  5. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    They deposited the data set as a .tar.gz file, but Dryad compresses it once more into a .zip before it lets you download it... (I had no real problem with it... Downloading 948 Mb to get 7 barcodes (~50 kb of info) felt a bit extreme, though. :rolleyes:)
  6. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    Yes, correct, and they did recover mtDNA sequences, albeit not for all the species they studied. (Their data are neither in GenBank, nor in BOLD, but deposited on Dryad -- you have to know they're there to find them.) I extracted the barcode region of Ardea spp from their alignments and added...
  7. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    No, sorry. No sequences of Intermediate Egrets from elsewhere than Asia, either. (There is one sequence labelled intermedia from Australia in BOLD, but it seems to be a misidentified Eastern Cattle Egret.)
  8. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    Part of the BOLD data cannot be downloaded (you can only see the stats for each BIN -- for ex., in the A. a. alba BIN, the German and Austrian sequences are not public; but you can see a haplotype network for the whole BIN where they appear, hence you can be completely sure that they are like...
  9. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    The cox1 distance between alba (n=8, Sweden, Germany, Austria, Japan) and egretta (n=12, Argentina, Suriname, Salvador, Mexico, USA) is 2.4%. The cox1 distance between Asian (in BOLD: n=13, S Korea, Japan; additional seqs in GenBank: n=6, China, India) and Australian (n=1) modesta is about 2%...
  10. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    This one was (so far as I can assess) correct in Bock 1994 : Tigriornithini; tribe ; Bock WJ. 1956. A generic revision of the family Ardeidae (Aves). Am. Mus. Novitates, 1779: 1-49.; p. 18; http://digitallibrary.amnh.org/handle/2246/5404 (In Ardeidae, I'm aware of family-group names based on...
  11. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    Not to the best of my knowledge. 1853. OD: Abt.2:Bd.1;Abt.3:Bd.4:pt.1 (1836-1847) [Text] - Die vollständigste Naturgeschichte der Vögel - Biodiversity Heritage Library Same work as discussed here : Gruiformes
  12. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    Tigrisomatinae; subfamily; Payne RB, Risley CJ. 1976. Systematics and evolutionary relationships among the herons (Ardeidae). Misc. Publ. Mus. Zool. Univ. Michigan, 150: 1-115.; p. 97; http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/56394/MP150.pdf
  13. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    For the sake of completeness, the name was used at least twice before "Kushlan & Hancock 2005" (the source recently claimed by Hruska et al), in sources not cited in the paper. But it cannot be deemed available from these sources either. Agamiinae; subfamily; Kushlan JA, Hancock J. 2003. Herons...
  14. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    Butoroides is an emendation of Butorides Blyth 1852 by Gould 1865 v.2 (1865) - Handbook to The birds of Australia - Biodiversity Heritage Library . Gould attributed the emended name to Blyth (as if the latter had spelled it that way); he used the emended spelling everywhere he was using the...
  15. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    On pp. 117-134 is an in-depth analysis of the Parzudaki Catalogue by Selys-Longchamps. (The content of which is also attributed by S-L to Bonaparte, not to Parzudaki.) On pp. 134-141 is a response to Selys' remarks by Bonaparte. (Who quite clearly regarded himself as the author of the Catalogue...
  16. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    It depends which date you accept for the appearance of the name in the Conspectus. Ardeiralla was used (for a subdivision of Ardetta) on p. 131 of the Conspectus : t.1-2; Index (1850-1865) - Conspectus generum avium - Biodiversity Heritage Library This page is part of gathering #17 of the...
  17. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    “Dupetor Heine [Ardeiralla (!) "Verr." Bp. 1855. Butoroides (!) Gould 1865 nec Butorides (!) Blyth 1865].” (here.) Dupetor was introduced to "replace" both Ardeiralla Bonaparte 1855 and Butoroides Gould 1865. The type of Ardeiralla is Ardea sturmii Wagler 1827; Butoroides is actually an...
  18. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    In the absence of written rules, you can in theory do what you want. (And others are also free not to follow you, and to keep using Pelecaniformes, Gruiformes and Apodiformes. ;)) Still : note that, if rules were to be written, I can easily imagine that something equivalent to Art. 35.5 (for...
  19. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    Yes, but there is no "Ornithological Code of Nomenclature". Any specifically ornithological nomenclatural usage is based on unwritten convention. I still do. Above the family group, which name must be used as valid, in preference to other names that have also been published, is not regulated by...
  20. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    The Code regulates names above the family group (i.e., above the rank of super-family) in a couple of rather trivial aspects only. These articles are principally about these names having to be uninominal, to start with a capital letter and be written with the letters of the Latin alphabet only...
  21. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    The position of exilis based on available data has much higher support than that of involucris (in part because exilis seems closer to Botaurus, in part because there are also cyt-b data for this species). Look at Päckert et al's trees: in Fig. 2, involucris is basal to Botaurus + exilis but, in...
  22. l_raty

    Ardeidae

    If they had included I. exilis (Least Bittern) in their data set, they'd have recovered it much closer to Botaurus, and with better support, than I. involucris. See Päckert et al. 2014 (link in [post #3] above).
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