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Old Friday 22nd October 2004, 20:29   #8
Rasmus Boegh
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According to my knowledge Ruddy never show an eye-colour like this. I have seen many (throughout their range, incl. Brazil) and their eyes normally are reddish, sometimes brownish, but I have *never* seen an individual with pale eyes. On the other hand, the eye-colour of this individual is very typical Plumbeous (again, a species of which I have seen many, incl. in Brazil). Actually, I have also seen a single Plumbeous with a relatively dark eye, ID'ed via voice, but this must be rather unusual (Hilty's "Birds of Venezuela" indicate that this may be a juveniles feature). I think much of the (previous) confusion was due to a lack of knowledge. - Many features being judged from museum-specimens, where actual colour of eyes can't be seen. Shape and lenght of the tail is a bit hard to judge from the photos, but bill seem to point in the same direction (it is usually shorter & finer in Ruddy).

By the way, a very good website you have...

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