Mystery Raptor (2 Viewers)

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Bluetail

Senior Moment

• Dec 2, 2003

• #21

I'm glad it's the USA - I was having difficulty agreeing to Common Buzzard. Had to resort to my Sibley for this one, but, out of the birds he pictures, juvenile Red-shouldered Hawk does seem the best match.

Jason

 

Grousemore

Senior Member

• Dec 2, 2003

• #22

Here's a slightly better pic;I'm getting worried that I mis-ID'd it.

 

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Bluetail

Senior Moment

• Dec 2, 2003

• #23

Hope you don't mind, but I've taken the liberty of lightening the pic and intensifying the colours and the highlight/midtone/shadow balance. Looks a bit like Cooper's Hawk now, but I'll have to leave it to those who know their USA raptors well.

Edit: Nope, I still think it's a buteo and juv Red-tailed Hawk is as near as I can get - but I really don't know my USA raptors well.

 

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logos

Well-known member

• Dec 2, 2003

• #24

Still looks like Red-shouldered to me.

Spud

 

Jane Turner

Well-known member

• Dec 2, 2003

• #25

Not get any flight pics have you...Buteos are so much easier in the air! the tail looks more like juv red-shouldered to me... now it has some detail....and that is assuming that there is a broad sub-terminal band...not just a heavy shadow

 

Grousemore

Senior Member

• Dec 2, 2003

• #26

Thanks to everyone for their input;I'd got the pictures mixed up with a Sharp-shinned Hawk I'd taken earlier and confused myself.
I'm now confident that it is indeed a Red shouldered and should have put it in the ID section rather than Quiz!

 

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logos

Well-known member

• Dec 3, 2003

• #27

the tail looks more like juv red-shouldered to me... now it has some detail....and that is assuming that there is a broad sub-terminal band...not just a heavy shadow

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The tail pattern of juv Red-shouldered characteristically lacks a broad subterminal band and is evenly barred throughout its length. Any indication of a broad sub-t band must therefore be shadow.

Spud

 

Jane Turner

Well-known member

• Dec 3, 2003

• #28

logos said:

The tail pattern of juv Red-shouldered characteristically lacks a broad subterminal band and is evenly barred throughout its length. Any indication of a broad sub-t band must therefore be shadow.

Spud

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never seen one... it would appear that my antiquated US guide got it wrong! There does appear to be a broad s-t band though!