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Blackstart

Saxophonus pinus

• Oct 25, 2004

• #1

Hi all-

Until seeing Abdullah's latest pipit photos and being stumped by a couple of them, I thought I was decent at pipit ID.

I have been looking at these two from a couple of autumns ago in Eilat, and I just don't have the guts to put a name to either of them. I hope somone else will...

Thanks.

-Adam

 

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James Lowther

Well-known member

• Oct 25, 2004

• #2

I think they're both tree pipits, 'cause of things like strong bill, contrast between ground colour of breast and belly, faint streaks on flank, short hind-claw (where visible). I am NOT an expert however, so hopefully someone else will be able to confirm or refute this ID.
James

 

Jane Turner

Well-known member

• Oct 25, 2004

• #3

The first bird looks like Meadow to me conveniently you can see the rump is unstreaked ruling out RTP The hind claw looks a bit short though... but the face pattern and underparts don't look good for Tree.

Second bird is a Tree Pipit.

 

Blackstart

Saxophonus pinus

• Oct 25, 2004

• #4

Thanks James and Jane.

The hindclaw on the first bird is what has prevented me from attaching a firm ID to the photo. Well, that and the broken eye-ring.

-Adam

 

Gio

Member

• Oct 25, 2004

• #5

First one

Looks like a tree to me: contrast between breast and belly ground color, thinner streaking on flanks, well marked loral stripe, short hindclaw,quite thick bill and broken eye ring.

Giorgio

 

Blackstart

Saxophonus pinus

• Oct 26, 2004

• #6

Yes, there do seem to be more characteristics pointing to Tree Pipit over Meadow Pipit on the first bird.

-Adam

 

CJW

Hit-and-run WUM

• Oct 26, 2004

• #7

Both Tree Pipits.
Tsk tsk Jane!

 

Jane Turner

Well-known member

• Oct 26, 2004

• #8

*bends over* Not certain myself...