• Welcome to BirdForum, the internet's largest birding community with thousands of members from all over the world. The forums are dedicated to wild birds, birding, binoculars and equipment and all that goes with it.

    Please register for an account to take part in the discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.
ZEISS DTI thermal imaging cameras. For more discoveries at night, and during the day.

tips for heath birds (2 Viewers)

RockyRacoon

Well-known member
I'm not new to birding, but need tips on how to watch the following at heaths: Dartford warbler, Woodlark, Tree pipit, Woodcock and Nightjar.

Its just that I rarely bird watch on heaths, I usually look for lizards and snakes... :bounce:
 
I'm no real expert but I'll put in my view.

The best thing with all of these is to identify their call/song. Once you know these it will be easier to locate the birds and see them.

Woodcock and nightjar are best at dusk.

Woodcock male fly around looking for females (roding). They have a call which is a sort of low grunt followed by squeaking. Once you have identified where they are flying they are much easier to see because they fly virtually the same circuit time and again.

Nightjar male produce the unmistakeable churring. If you approach near to one they will sometimes fly round you and perform their wing flapping display. The males have very noticeable white wing spots.

All of these birds require patience!
 
Get up nice and early for Dartford Warbler and check out any song that sounds vaguely "scratchy". Their call is a distinctive "scolding" sound, something like "chrrrrrrr." It's a good time of year to see them as they are quite active at the moment.

Woodlark can usually be located quite easily if you know the call - get hold of a recording or have a search on-line.

Tree Pipit are also easy if you know the call - it's a bit "buzzy." Basically, if you see a Meadow Pipit on a tree top going "bzzt" it is actually a Tree Pipit.

Woodcock and Nightjar require a late night out. Woodcock are best viewed from a good vantage point that gives you a view over a wood or plantation. Nightjar start "churring" about 9.30-9.45pm at this time of year. Now is an excellent time to see them. Try clapping your hands to attract them when they are in flight - it sometimes works. Edward also mentioned, in another thread, about holding white pieces of cloth in your hands and flapping your arms to attract them!

Good luck!
 
Last edited:
tom mckinney said:
Edward also mentioned, in another thread, about holding white pieces of cloth in your hands and flapping your arms to attract them!
I have tried this and it does work - they have also been attracted to a white hat my wife wears. Maybe they think the white is another male.

I must admit I usually check that no-one is looking before doing my solo Morris dancer impression ;)
 
tom mckinney said:
Get up nice and early for Dartford Warbler and check out any song that sounds vaguely "scratchy". Their call is a distinctive "scolding" sound, something like "chrrrrrrr." It's a good time of year to see them as they are quite active at the moment.
Also worth adding that it's not all that loud. Similarly their song: it's rather Whitethroat-like; very assured, but quieter. Dartfords can be quite self-effacing birds. You can walk past a gorse bush and there may well be one in it, but you'd never guess. At one site with a good population I've often seen none at all despite trying for a whole afternoon, yet on another day they're all out and about, calling and being very obliging. Never have worked out what it is that makes the difference. Take Tom's advice and get there early.
 
tom mckinney said:
Nightjar start "churring" about 9.30-9.45pm at this time of year
Nope, in mid & late June around the solstice with very late evenings, not until about 11pm. As the nights draw in through July, they start earlier, 9.30 by about the end of July or the beginning of August. They go on churring until late August, even the start of September occasionally.

Michael
 
Michael Frankis said:
Nope, in mid & late June around the solstice with very late evenings, not until about 11pm. As the nights draw in through July, they start earlier, 9.30 by about the end of July or the beginning of August. They go on churring until late August, even the start of September occasionally.

Michael

Nope, at this time of year, ie now, they are coming out at about 9.30pm. How do I know? Because 6 came out between 9.30-9.45pm on monday night at Dunwich Heath.

Tom.
 
Hi Tom,
Oddly enough,they tend to wait until at least 10pm over here,which is more or less between the times given by you and MF!Would guess that it depends on how early it gets dark in a given area:can imagine it getting dark later in Northumbs than here,as they are further north.
Harry
 
Hi Harry,

Guess you're right, thinking about it; sunset in late June Norfolk is probably at least 50 minutes earlier than here. In north Northumberland, sunset in late June is 10.02pm, in southeast Northumbs, 9.50pm

Michael
 
Harry Hussey said:
Would guess that it depends on how early it gets dark in a given area
I am sure it must do. Last night nightjars started up just after 09:30 at my local site in Kent.
 
Look out for the ever conspicuous stonechat, dartfords often use them as sentinels so look closely in the scrub beneath the perch. I find the dartford call reminiscent of an old fashioned cold tap, which has been left half on, a foamy, washy sort of sound. bubbling and irregular. Plus, dartfords are particularly inquisitive to the pshh-pshhh alarm call and will venture within a few feet if there is enough cover - its worth noting though that they are less inclined to do so in the nesting season.
Circling a white hanky over your head at dusk can bring nightjars in close - giving fantastic views and justifying thier alternative name of nighthawk.
Heaths are my favourite summer habitat to explore, for all types of wildlife - have fun!
James
 
Warning! This thread is more than 20 years ago old.
It's likely that no further discussion is required, in which case we recommend starting a new thread. If however you feel your response is required you can still do so.

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top