Howard King
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Here's a direct link to Juhani's picture.
http://www.virtual-bird.com/replace...change=Anseriformes/Anatidae/Anser/Anser.data
Wrong link - This is not the picture taken at Badaan
Here's a direct link to Juhani's picture.
http://www.virtual-bird.com/replace...change=Anseriformes/Anatidae/Anser/Anser.data
Are the two pictures of the bird on the ground of the same bird? To me the bill colour is different, on the first (left hand) picture it appears very pink, in fact quite light and in the next picture it appears orange. The flight pic rules out Greylag with the lack of lightness in the wings etc as mentioned above. Bean Goose and Pink-footed can be ruled out by the lack of darkness near the base of the bill in a juvenile bird which this is and the bird is too big and has no eye ring so Lesser White-front can be dismissed. This leaves juvenile White-fronted Goose but which race. The most likely in terms of distribution would be albifrons but the colour of the bill is not clear in my opinion.
Wrong link - This is not the picture taken at Badaan
No-one's answered my question as to why the original subject bird shows a pale nail. Howard says it has a "blackish bill tip", which I just can't see. To me it has a more adult-like white tip to the bill with, just possibly, a small smidgeon of black. It certainly doesn't have the classic black nail shown here...
http://www.birdguides.com/pictures/default.asp?v=1&f=125093&r=0&st=0&q=
Every other feature is, as many have said, consistent with 1st winter albifrons Whitefront and I don't want to deny that's what it is, just curious about this feature.
Thanks,
Graham
No-one's answered my question as to why the original subject bird shows a pale nail. Howard says it has a "blackish bill tip", which I just can't see.
Thanks,
Graham
Apologies for the earlier link to the over flying Greylag geese, the picture in question is attached.
No-one's answered my question as to why the original subject bird shows a pale nail. Howard says it has a "blackish bill tip", which I just can't see. To me it has a more adult-like white tip to the bill with, just possibly, a small smidgeon of black. It certainly doesn't have the classic black nail shown here...
http://www.birdguides.com/pictures/default.asp?v=1&f=125093&r=0&st=0&q=
Every other feature is, as many have said, consistent with 1st winter albifrons Whitefront and I don't want to deny that's what it is, just curious about this feature.
Thanks,
Graham
Hey Rob
I don't think the Collins does show a 1st winter plumage at all does it?
Sean
I've taken the liberty of farting around with the originals (decreased brightness and increased contrast, hope Adrian doesn't mind)
James
mine does, captioned albifrons 1st-w with a comment that the blaze develops from end of 1st winter
Rob