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Old Saturday 9th May 2009, 22:38   #10626
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Houghton Gate and Dormans

Can anyone give me directions to these two places? Just in case the birds are there tomorrow. Tried at Saltholme but couldn't find the Egret - just seen the news on the Stint.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Old Saturday 9th May 2009, 23:43   #10627
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Can anyone give me directions to these two places? Just in case the birds are there tomorrow. Tried at Saltholme but couldn't find the Egret - just seen the news on the Stint.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Chris (the very enthusiastic amateur :) )
I have put the links to the maps of the locations at the bottom. You can zoom in and zoom out on the right hand side this might help you with directions. I am sorry the directions are not that good.
Houghton Gate: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x...ay=551207&lm=0
Saltholme Pools RSPB:http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x...ay=523226&lm=0
For to get into Dorman's Pool you need to be a Teesmouth Bird Club member I beleive. If this egret is anything like the spoonbill it might move around a bit. Therfore might it might be at Saltholme.

I would zoom in on the Saltholme one, I hope I have been of some help, hope you see the Great White Egret and the Temminck's Stints, If it' still there I shall most likely go down and try to get the Temminck's stint.
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Old Saturday 9th May 2009, 23:57   #10628
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Are the Egrets down at the pool by the bridge at Seal Sands, or am I thinking of something else that has bred there.


I was down at Newburn Bridge a couple of days ago, and this little colourful chappie flew around. I managed to grab a shot.

http://www.jhphotos.co.uk/html/may-_aug_2009_19.html

Is this a ordinary one or is it a Northern one.
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 08:13   #10629
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Great White Egret at RSPB Saltholme

For anyone thinking of coming down the Great White Egret was present on Back Saltholme at 08:05 this morning and is on the Wet Grassland as of 09:00, viewable from Paddy's Pool Hide. It is quite distant but can show well if not in one of our ditches :) Reserve open from 10:00 - 17:00
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 08:41   #10630
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Because;
A I did
B I know what they look like
C I've seen them before
D I don't do photography (very well) or have a long lens
E I was with other birders who confirmed it's identity

With any luck the bird might be there tomorrow, get yourself down and see it for yourself
Don't forget your camera or no-one will believe you
Great find Neil.......

After a day of bird racing we were struggling to find many more birds, especially waders...fancy having one turn up like that!!!!

A life tick as never seen a Temnicks before


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PS if you find any more birds could you send me a proof picture before i go and have a look for myself

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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 09:03   #10631
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its been there for 12 hrs.....why no pics yet? )
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 09:31   #10632
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PS if you find any more birds could you send me a proof picture before i go and have a look for myself

Thanks
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 10:50   #10633
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Many thanks

Cheers Andrew - at least I know where these places are now!
Unfortunately have to work today :( so will not be able to get out and see the birds. Will have to wait till the next time.

Hope you saw them
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 11:25   #10634
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Great White Egret still present at 11.55 on Back Saltholme. Still very distant from wherever viewed. Last seen gradually making it's way closer to Paddy's Pool hide.
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 12:55   #10635
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Whether he saw it or not at least he can spell it.
It is a bit below the belt taking the mick out of a spelling mistake, especially when I am only 14.

Would you be so quick to point out something so trivial as a spelling mistake if I had learning difficulties ? I think not.

I apologise to Neil for 'doubting' him; I would have liked to see a photo of a Teminick's Stint. If you can't see a photo of a bird at your local patch, what can you ask for ?
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It is a bit below the belt taking the mick out of a spelling mistake, especially when I am only 14.

Would you be so quick to point out something so trivial as a spelling mistake if I had learning difficulties ? I think not.

I apologise to Neil for 'doubting' him; I would have liked to see a photo of a Teminick's Stint. If you can't see a photo of a bird at your local patch, what can you ask for ?
Sorry I dont think one should discriminate on the basis of age, would you have challenged the sighting had the observer had learning difficulties? Possibly not but then like me you wouldn't have known that assuming you aren't clairvoyant either. You should perhaps concentrate on developing a sense of humour though, oh and you might want to try TEMMINCK'S, third time lucky eh

On a serious note, there is no problem asking for photographs but there is a way of doing it that doesn't cast doubt over someone's sighting on a public forum. You may feel slighted about me highlighting your spelling mistake imagine how another birder feels when you cast doubt over his identification skills on a bird you havent seen.
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 13:43   #10637
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Try this

http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictu...6&r=1&st=0&q=0
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 14:29   #10638
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Sorry I dont think one should discriminate on the basis of age
Neither do I. Why did you point out a spelling mistake ? Are you such a pedantic person that you need to point out every mistake ? If we're being so picky, I think you should have an apostrophe on the third word of your sentence.

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would you have challenged the sighting had the observer had learning difficulties?
Obviously not. You might do, but I don't think learning difficulties are a joking matter. Ask anyone, and they will tell you the same.

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You may feel slighted about me highlighting your spelling mistake imagine how another birder feels when you cast doubt over his identification skills on a bird you havent seen.
I never doubted his identification skills; I asked for a photo if he had one. Big difference.

'A bird I haven't seen ?' Isn't that a bit of a cheap shot ? Many people my age or older haven't seen a Temminck's Stint (Is that alright ?). Your blog tries to help people see rare birds around the North East so you must be having a go at them. What is the point in trying to help people if you are just going to criticise the birds they haven't seen ? Disappointing.
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Why did you point out a spelling mistake ? Are you such a pedantic person that you need to point out every mistake ?
I pointed it out because I think it is important to spell species names correctly and I think like many readers was slightly amused by the irony of your doubt and your misspelling. Pedantic, yes you'll understand when your over forty, it's a middle age thing.


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You introduced this, the relevance is lost on me. You might have these, you might not, I'd still correct your misspelling (or should that be mispelling I'm never sure).

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Sorry to sound so doubtful, but what makes you think that you saw a Temnick's Stint
What else were you sounding doubtful about?

Any more, why not PM me as this will be getting boring for everyone else. Cheer up at least you only got the spelling wrong, I've shouted Temminck's before and it's turned out to be dodgy.
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I apologise to Neil for 'doubting' him; I would have liked to see a photo of a Teminick's Stint. If you can't see a photo of a bird at your local patch, what can you ask for ?
Temminck's Stint still present when I left at 4:00. I know its a terrible shot but I have attached a picture that I took through my scope using my Mobile Phone.

Well done to NeilF for finding the bird! Thanks Neil, that's another one for the life and year list

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I think that's one for the mystery bird competition Andrew. I'm pleased I'm not there, I would have had that as an empty Stella Artois can with my eyesight.
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As well as the Great White Egret showing amazingly well from Paddy's Pool Hide (and sometimes not amazingly well) there were also 2 Wood Sandpipers present from about 16:00 onwards. Hopefully all three will stick around till tomorrow and be joined by something else :)
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Old Sunday 10th May 2009, 18:47   #10643
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Houghton Gate c1800
Temminck's Stint, Black-tailed Godwit & a Wheatear.

Great to meet Lardy & Jason


Good going Neil.
A great "finders" bird anywhere, but especially so when its a site first

Looks like there been a steady stream of admirers through this weekend, its a beautifully marked bird.

Thanks for the call - certainly a nice little bonus at the end of the day for yesterdays Bird Race teams
We got through to find 3 keen local patchers with scopes (& smiles) trained on the bird.
We only managed 3 birds after watching your Stint . . . Little, Long-eared & Barn.

PS: That Blackwits a nice 'un too, the first for us this year.

PPS: Can we order a Broad-billed Sand for Castle Lake Open Day.
Cu later.
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Typical

The day I planned to go out to Saltholme and then Temminck's hunting I have to do a load of work, it's been a beautiful day and then Saltholme has been Sandpiper heaven!
Ah well. Plenty more birds another time I guess.
Thanks for the photo of the Stint - I hadn't realised but I must have seen one before! I have loads of photos of birds from that far away and they all look like Temminck's Stint's

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its been there for 12 hrs.....why no pics yet? )

Here is a pretty poor handheld very very distant pic of it taken approx 14.15 it was well beyond the Paddy's Pool Hide pretty much directly west of there and viewable from the path that leads to the 'wildlife watch point' hide
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Thanks for the photo of the Stint - I hadn't realised but I must have seen one before! I have loads of photos of birds from that far away and they all look like Temminck's Stint's

Chris
ha ha Its one of those pictures you just have to take my word on it. A very, very distant record shot.

It is definatly the Temminck's Stint as myself and other birders had ID'd it and there where no other waders there apart from the Redshank and Lapwing.
It's a shame you couldn't get down today it showed really well and I spent about 3 hours there watching it.
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I pointed it out because I think it is important to spell species names correctly and I think like many readers was slightly amused by the irony of your doubt and your misspelling. Pedantic, yes you'll understand when your over forty, it's a middle age thing.




You introduced this, the relevance is lost on me. You might have these, you might not, I'd still correct your misspelling (or should that be mispelling I'm never sure).




What else were you sounding doubtful about?

Any more, why not PM me as this will be getting boring for everyone else. Cheer up at least you only got the spelling wrong, I've shouted Temminck's before and it's turned out to be dodgy.


No carry on. It's not boring at all. Love it.
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The Temmincks Stint was still present at Houghton Gate yesterday evening, which contradicts S Howat's report. I'm not saying he wasn't there but I never saw anyone else ! Where were you at, Steve ? (Assuming you read and post on this forum)
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Crimdon Dene this morning - on the beach - Little Tern c.12, Dunlin x32, Grey Plover x1, Ringed Plover x7.

In the dunes/bushes - Linnet c.15, Stonechat x2, Common Whitethroat x3, Skylark, Meadow Pipit, Sand Martin, Swallow, Kestrel.

Still plenty of Avocets on Saline Lagoon this evening plus the usual Lapwing, Redshank, Shelduck, Oystercatcher, Coot, Moorhen, Little Ringed Plover and Canada Goose. Swallow x7 feeding over hedge by hide.

Swift c.100 feeding very low over Saltholme Pools, Dormans Pool and Rec. Pond.

Photos: 1. Little Tern - 2. Dunlin - 3. Avocet with chicks - 4. Avocet chick - 5. Swift
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The Temmincks Stint was still present at Houghton Gate yesterday evening, which contradicts S Howat's report. I'm not saying he wasn't there but I never saw anyone else ! Where were you at, Steve ? (Assuming you read and post on this forum)
I think this is getting a little bit out of hand. It doesn't really matter. Sometimes birds are overlooked and the Temmincks is very easily overlooked.

The bird appears to have gone now anyway. I think some people on the thread will agree with me when I say "just leave it there".

Happy Birding.
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