[timwootton]

It's not a clinching id feature Ed and certainly isn't what I'd call an obvious fieldmark. Do them as you see them - as Uncle Eric would say - and also how you envision them, wouldn't be a bad motif. Looking very good, btw.

[colleenc]

as a layperson I had to strain to see a difference, only because you pointed it out could I see it. Love the light on the wing

[timwootton]

You're certainly not a million miles away, Ed;
http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/sho...p?photo=263593

[ChrissyM]

As Colleen says, I would struggle to tell the difference but great attention to detail. I need to be more observant....

[ARTHUR BISHOP]

Hi Ed, they look right from the angle we are looking at them , a bit more side on then maybe.

[solitaryVSong]

A difficult problem Ed, unless it's true that it might not be visible from that angle. I sure can't say, though if I still lived in Kentucky where they nested outside the door I'd be able to hazard a better guess.

But for me the real dilemma is 'parsnippy'. Should that really be allowed as an adjective? No matter how accurate!

[ed keeble]

Originally Posted by solitaryVSong

A difficult problem Ed, unless it's true that it might not be visible from that angle. I sure can't say, though if I still lived in Kentucky where they nested outside the door I'd be able to hazard a better guess.

But for me the real dilemma is 'parsnippy'. Should that really be allowed as an adjective? No matter how accurate!

I figure if carroty is in accepted albeit colloquial usage...

while we are at it, I've drawn a blank thus far on my mosquito legs query:

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....77#post1652077

any help welcomed..

[solitaryVSong]

Some down, some up according to this photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/longint57/559163739. It almost looks like they're used as rudders. But then I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to flight so that maybe quite wrong. In any case I think this should be informative.

[Woody]

I'd say down and back but I don't know, just guessing what I imagine them to do.

Mike

[Woody]

Not mossies but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EknFC2ZjkvY&feature=fvst

Mike

[timwootton]

I think they drape behind, Ed. I'm sure in Ken's photo link the creature is just taking off - hence its spread legs (as it would be at rest).
One simple way to get the authoratitive answer is to paint them as you imagine them - some 'expert' will soon crawl out of the woodwork and tell you you've got it wrong!!!!!

[ed keeble]

Originally Posted by timwootton

I think they drape behind, Ed. I'm sure in Ken's photo link the creature is just taking off - hence its spread legs (as it would be at rest).
One simple way to get the authoratitive answer is to paint them as you imagine them - some 'expert' will soon crawl out of the woodwork and tell you you've got it wrong!!!!!

Thank-you all- drapey behind legs it has to be. Now with hopefully just enough blurry hill and tower block and wet bit to evoke rural Korea.

[ed keeble]

While I am it- I did manage to sneak out at weekend and lug 'scope with me: curiously thru naked eye the local Brents seemed to have been allocated a giant barcode (crop from long range photo) but through scope it turned out to be waders and posts- so the Turnstone on the left got sketched.

[colleenc]

love the barcode! what a great painting it would be...never thought about mosquito legs till you Ed.

[timwootton]

Superb colourwork Ed - very impressive indeed.
Got to agree about the potential with the barcode - great idea and these turnstones have a wonderful fluidity of line. Beautiful.

[ChrissyM]

Gosh, the barcode looks looks like a bird version of stonehenge!
The swallow complete with drapey legged mosquito is superb