[Himalaya]

The photographer says Red Kite,

I say Lammergeier


http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemalpasha/4059659814/

[wintibird]

I fully support you. Tail and wings absolutely don't match with any Red Kite I've ever seen.

André

[Himalaya]

Thanks! I guess the bird appeared red and is a scavenger so they got a little confused.

Any other opinions on this please?

[Jonny721]

I agree with ur ID aswell

[Himalaya]

this bird is now a buzzard?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemalpasha/4059659814/

[Himalaya]

could it be a golden eagle?

[jascha777]

Wing shape and broad wedge shape tail
are highly suggestive of Lammergeier,but
its ever such a small pic!!!
Mark

[Himalaya]

thats what i think. could it be a himalayan griffon, black vulture..no because that tail is too big. could it be a buzzard? the bird looks too large and that TAIL!
golden eagle?....what little you see of the tail does look wedged so that could rule it out

other birds it could be steppe eagle, imperial, bonelli....but steppe tail is shorter right?
could it even be a Raven?

i do think its a lammergeier bu what about the options ?

[Lappkrabben]

Just an advice, no sarcasm/irony.

Next time you see a bird that you are uncertain what species it is. Note in a book what you see is characteristic about the bird. Long wings?, shape of the tail, any details you see in the colors etc etc

Just using this (honestly) bad photo for ID will not get you far.

What i mean is; the photo with the scenery is excellent/beautiful. But when it comes to try and ID a spot on a picture like this, it's a bad photo, and you will get suggestions with everything from buzzard to vultures to kites.

And you will still be confused about the species.

If you have photoshop you can probably enlarge the bird in the picture to see more the object in question.

[tjbirdofprey]

no way is that or buzzard or kite, its either a vulture ( such as lammergier ) or an Eagle sp... looks like a bearded vulture to me.

[tjbirdofprey]

here you go:

[Cheshire Birder]

Originally Posted by jascha777

Wing shape and broad wedge shape tail
are highly suggestive of Lammergeier,but its ever such a small pic!!!
Mark

I would agree.

CB

[Biancone]

Looks like a lammergeier to me too, tail especially; might expect the wings to look a couple of pixels longer though. Habitat spot on for lammergeier also. But of course the picture is far too small and the photographer (in comments on flickr) explicitly rules out lammergeier. So who knows?!

[Himalaya]

@ lappkrabben - i do understand what you say but we humans have enough judgement to know this is not a photo of a sparrow, starling, duck. those of us who have reasonable knowledge of birds will be able to tell its a bird of prey and most of us seem to say lammergeier. yes the photo is bad but we know its not a sparrow, egret, oriole but a bird of prey and that with a NOTICEABLE tail. neither a vulture of buzzard would have such a noticeable tail in that region.

@ Biancone - the photogapher may not be a birdwatcher and if he really thinks this is a buzzard then almost definitely not one.

At least 5 people say lammergeier ad 0 say buzzard? Anyone like to add to the scores?

[SJC]

6-0. Despite the distance, pointed wings, large tail, tiny head suggest that the bird is most likely a Lammergeier