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Firefinch ID challenge, Senegal (1 Viewer)

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Kev Roy
United Kingdom
Here's a challenge some of you Africaphiles might find interesting. Can you say which firefinch is in the attached pic and on what basis the species can be ID'd?

Cheers!

(Bird netted under licence. Permission granted by photographer)
 

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African Firefinch male - blue grey bill is the key; greyish shawl over the nape, a supporting feature.

cheers, alan
 
Hey Kev - if this wasn't Senegal I'd've said it's an African (black-blue bill, brown-grey uppers).....but not sure if they've been recorded that far east??
 
Top marks Roy - it is indeed a Mali Firefinch. Payne is the authority on the species and on estrildids generally. I was mistaken in thinking the shot was taken in Senegal. As Payne said it was taken in Mali during field work by him and Clive Barlow in Mali. A discussion with Clive re a post on another ID forum got the ball rolling on this one.

The picture is helpful in clearly showing the key field mark distinguishing Mali Firefinch Lagonosticta virata from African Firefinch L. rubricata, namely, the comparatively "straight and narrow" bill. As Payne says, "the culmen is deep and curved in African Firefinch". Mali Firefinch also lacks the pink wash to the crown of African and has several distinctive calls.

Cheers all who had a go. Happy hunting if you haven't bagged it already! :t:
 
Another feature Clive mentioned that the Payne article does not refer to is size - Mali Firefinch being notably smaller than African. This can be seen in the photos in the link above, with the firefinches clearly less bulky than the accompanying Lavender Waxbills.
 
Another feature Clive mentioned that the Payne article does not refer to is size - Mali Firefinch being notably smaller than African. This can be seen in the photos in the link above, with the firefinches clearly less bulky than the accompanying Lavender Waxbills.

Crikey - I excluded Mali Firefinch because they are "only in Mali"....obviously not!

Is the Senegal site easily accessible?

Instructive stuff, cheers, alan
 
Is the Senegal site easily accessible?

Cheers, Alan. If you simply want to tick Mali Firefinch the area around Bamako in Mali is a better bet. I've had them there and can send you details of sites, contacts etc if you need them. The Senegalese records are from the extreme SE of the country, nr the town of Kedougou. It is a bit of a trek but there are lots of good birds, mammals, invertebrates etc in several different habitats (mountains, forests etc). Quite a few species in Barlow, Wacher and Disley's Field Guide to the Birds of Gambia and Senegal have been recorded only from that area - and it's got a kind of 'wild frontier' feel about it with who knows what lurking just around the next corner and just waiting to be discovered. I was lucky enough to bag a national first myself not far away (Yellow-breasted Apalis Apalis flavida), and the brood parasite of Mali Firefinch, Barka Indigobird Vidua larvaticola has got to be down there somewhere... :t:
 
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