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ACO · Monday 12th April 2010, 16:44

Trying to see if I can post some photos of specimens in our museum for some confirmation on their ID.

The "oriole" is labled: Girand Hangnest

The parrot: Large Green Brown-crested Parrot

The third: Red-breasted Lark

Thanks,

Peter

Motmot · Monday 12th April 2010, 16:50

#3 is a Rosy Thrush-Tanager (Rhodinocichla rosea)

rockfowl · Monday 12th April 2010, 16:52

#1 Looks like Yellow-backed Oriole Icterus chrysater

Any labeling to indicate where they were collected?

rockfowl · Monday 12th April 2010, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motmot

#3 is a Rosy Thrush-Tanager (Rhodinocichla rosea)

Agreed

ACO · Monday 12th April 2010, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfowl

#1 Looks like Yellow-backed Oriole Icterus chrysater

Any labeling to indicate where they were collected?

No, this is one of my problems, since I do not know where they were collected, I can't narrow down my search very well.

ACO · Monday 12th April 2010, 17:11

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Originally Posted by ACO

No, this is one of my problems, since I do not know where they were collected, I can't narrow down my search very well.

How about the parrot: The name was a description, not a name. I run into this a fair bit and considering many of our specimens were collected in the mid-1800's, not surprising. It shows faded yellow(?) feathers on the forehead/crown, a bir of red showning in the closed wing, the primaries appear to be blue, the rest of the bird green. About 28 cm- can't guess how much it shrunk over the years.

MLoyko · Monday 12th April 2010, 17:14

I agree #1 does look like a yellow-backed Oriole.

Peter sorry I couldn't be there to help lately, I am available Friday though. I can come in after I go birding for a little in the morning?

ACO · Monday 12th April 2010, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MLoyko

I agree #1 does look like a yellow-backed Oriole.

Peter sorry I couldn't be there to help lately, I am available Friday though. I can come in after I go birding for a little in the morning?

Hey Matt,
Absolutely!

Peter

MLoyko · Monday 12th April 2010, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACO

Hey Matt,
Absolutely!

Peter

See you then!

mb1848 · Tuesday 13th April 2010, 09:19

No. 1 is Giraud’s Oriole ie a subspecies of Yellow-backed Oriole. Icterus chrysater giraudii Cassin 1848 Proc.Acad.Nat.Sci.Philadelphia 3["1847"] no.12 p.333 Hangnest is a common name for an Oriole. Could this be the Type?

jaco · Tuesday 13th April 2010, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb1848

No. 1 is Giraud’s Oriole ie a subspecies of Yellow-backed Oriole. Icterus chrysater giraudii Cassin 1848 Proc.Acad.Nat.Sci.Philadelphia 3["1847"] no.12 p.333 Hangnest is a common name for an Oriole. Could this be the Type?

I'd expect the type to have more on the label.

Birdingcraft · Tuesday 13th April 2010, 17:38

I agree with IDs for the oriole thrush-tanager. As for the parrot, I'm not sure but likely a faded, shrunken Mealy Parrot.

ACO · Wednesday 14th April 2010, 18:15

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Originally Posted by jaco

I'd expect the type to have more on the label.

Yes, there "should" be more information, but these birds mostly do not have tags and where the data originally came from that I do have (on a card catalog) I do not know. We have some very interesting specimens, apparently traded with other museums in Philadelphia and New York City, some from the french collector, Rivoli.
My goal is to confirm every specimen and then properly label them with any data that we do have. Makes for fun days!

Monday 12th April 2010, 16:50	#2
Motmot Eduardo Amengual Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N Gredos Posts: 5,120 My location	#3 is a Rosy Thrush-Tanager (Rhodinocichla rosea) __________________ "You must not know too much, or be too precise or scientific about birds and trees and flowers. A certain free margin...helps your enjoyment of these things." Walt Whitman

Monday 12th April 2010, 17:14	#7
MLoyko d[-_-]b Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SE Pennsylvania Posts: 3,310	I agree #1 does look like a yellow-backed Oriole. Peter sorry I couldn't be there to help lately, I am available Friday though. I can come in after I go birding for a little in the morning? __________________ Life List: 207 ... (as of Jan 2008) Latest Lifer(s): Pink-footed Goose, Whip-poor-will, Harlequin Duck, Common Goldeneye

Tuesday 13th April 2010, 17:38	#12
Birdingcraft Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 3,600	I agree with IDs for the oriole thrush-tanager. As for the parrot, I'm not sure but likely a faded, shrunken Mealy Parrot. __________________ Patrick O'Donnell my blog about living and birding in Costa Rica: http://birdingcraft.com/wordpress

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ACO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 51 Blog Entries: 1	Museum specimen ID help Trying to see if I can post some photos of specimens in our museum for some confirmation on their ID. The "oriole" is labled: Girand Hangnest The parrot: Large Green Brown-crested Parrot The third: Red-breasted Lark Thanks, Peter Attached Thumbnails

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