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Geert Custers

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hello,
trust these are both vitelline weavers.
What happened to the bill of the second one (foto 2 and 3)?

Regards,
Geert Custers
 

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No, yellow eye and grey legs rules this out and makes the most obvious alternative lesser masked, but the lack of any supercilium makes me hesitate and suggest a possible Speke's weaver. (Not certain what happened to the beak!). If that's so, the second bird is a young male moulting through, as they don't have a proper non-breeding plumage. Weavers in photos (and in the field!) are tricky, and others may well disagree (hopefully they will and we'll learn something!). Where were they, and were there any males in plumage around?
 
Hi TZ birder,
Sorry I see i didn't mention the location.
Saw these in July in the Ngorongoro crater next to the lake together with the widowbirds of my previous post.
No br. plumage males to be seen.
I had been looking to the legs as well but thought that the grey was a shading effect and that legs where pinkish (maybe because grey leggs would give me a big problem in putting a correct ID on it).
Regards,
Geert
 
Speke's for me. The iris is pale indeed, but it also shows quite a distinct reddish tinge (vs Lesser masked which shows a pale but whitish iris), a very good indication for Speke's in my experience. Also, I really get an impression of a 'bigger' weaver especially from the 1st picture.
 
Thanks Tib,
Iris has indeed a reddish tone.
I found an other foto of the first bird showing the size of the bill.
Hope this helps. It's indeed very big.
Regards,
geert
 

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Should I conclude by the lack of further answers that these are indeed speke's weavers? Hoped that the last foto would give a final verdict.
Regards,
Geert
 
Especially with the new information on location I'm convinced they're Spekes - they nest in the tree by the toilets there...
 
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