[Docmartin]

For those who are interested. Today's BOURC press release attached.

[Andrew]

That file crashed my system! I'll get you back one day!

Could you cut and paste it for me or summat?

[Docmartin]

Originally Posted by Andrew

That file crashed my system! I'll get you back one day!

Could you cut and paste it for me or summat?

Tssk, it's no trouble at all
Just did the business end and not the several pages of quality control stuff.




25 May 2005

A Press Release from the

BRITISH ORNITHOLOGISTS’ UNION
RECORDS COMMITTEE


Taxonomic changes to the British List

The following recommendations relating to the taxonomy of birds on the British List will take effect from the publication of the BOURC Taxonomic Subcommittee’s (BOURC-TSC) next report in Ibis..

Black Scoter Melanitta nigra
The two currently recognised subspecies of Black Scoter, the Eurasian M. n. nigra and the North American and East Asian M. n. americana should be treated as separate species:
 Common Scoter M. nigra (monotypic)
 Black Scoter M. americana (monotypic).
Both taxa are currently on the British List.

Velvet Scoter Melanitta fusca
Eurasian populations M. f. fusca are distinct from East Asian and North American populations M. f. stejnegeri and M. f. deglandi, and should be recognised as separate species:
 Velvet Scoter M. fusca (monotypic)
 White-winged Scoter M. deglandi (polytypic, with subspecies deglandi and stejnegeri).
Velvet Scoter is on the British List.

Supporting information relating to these decisions will be published separately.

END

For further information, you can contact any of the following –

Martin Collinson, BOURC-TSC Tel 01 224 555 750 Email bourc-tsc@bou.org.uk
Eric Meek, Chairman, BOURC Tel 01 856 850 176 Email eric.meek@bou.org.uk
Tim Melling, Secretary, BOURC Tel 01 484 861 148 Email bourc.sec@bou.org.uk
Steve Dudley, BOU Administrator Tel 01 733 844 820 Email steve.dudley@bou.org.uk

[tom mckinney]

Armchair tick! Well actually a swivelchair tick.

[Andrew]

Dang! The Llanfairfechan bird refused to show when I was there last year.

(Thanks for posting Doc)

[Reader]

One more for my GB list. Now I need another 51 to hit the 400 mark.

I can see me doddering around on long hauls at the tender age of 90 at this rate. lol

[Richard Klim]

Wegst, Kratzer & Crossley 2010. Die Unterscheidung der Pazifiktrauerente Melanitta americana von der Trauerente M. nigra - Separation of Black Scoter Melanitta americana from Common Scoter M. nigra. Limicola 24(3): 192-212.
limicola.de/limicola-gesamtverzeichnis.html

Does anyone have a PDF...?

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Richard

[Richard Klim]

BLI will apparently recognise Melanitta [nigra] americana, M [fusca] deglandi and M [f] stejnegeri as distinct species in BirdLife Checklist v5 (2012):

1. Taxonomic changes in the genus Melanitta, part I: suggestion to list M. nigra as Vulnerable and request for information on M. americana
2. Taxonomic changes in the genus Melanitta, part II: suggestions to list M. fusca as Endangered and M. deglandi as Least Concern, and request for information on M. stejnegeri

BLI has been slow to recognise M americana and M deglandi: both are recognised by IOC, AERC, BOU, CSNA and OSME; and M americana is recognised by AOU and Cornell (Clements/eBird).
But BLI is the first significant authority to recognise M stejnegeri (although already recognised by Birding World and UK400 Club).

See also:

• Common/Black Scoter
• "American Scoter" vs. "Black Scoter"
• White-winged/Velvet Scoter
• velvet & white-wing scoter

[MJB]

Originally Posted by Richard Klim

BLI will apparently recognise Melanitta [nigra] americana, M [fusca] deglandi and M [f] stejnegeri as distinct species in BirdLife Checklist v5 (2012):

1. Taxonomic changes in the genus Melanitta, part I: suggestion to list M. nigra as Vulnerable and request for information on M. americana
2. Taxonomic changes in the genus Melanitta, part II: suggestions to list M. fusca as Endangered and M. deglandi as Least Concern, and request for information on M. stejnegeri

BLI has been slow to recognise M americana and M deglandi: both are recognised by IOC, AERC, BOU, CSNA and OSME; and M americana is recognised by AOU and Cornell (Clements/eBird).
But BLI is the first significant authority to recognise M stejnegeri (although already recognised by Birding World and UK400 Club).

See also:

• Common/Black Scoter
• "American Scoter" vs. "Black Scoter"
• White-winged/Velvet Scoter
• velvet & white-wing scoter

Richard,
At least hinted at as M. stejnegeri in Anderson, B, E Jirle and L Svensson. 2009. Holarctic List v2.0 at http://www.pheromone.ekol.lu.se/hollisteng.html (Swedish Ornithological Committee). Accessed Nov09.
MJB

[Richard Klim]

Originally Posted by MJB

At least hinted at as M. stejnegeri in Anderson, B, E Jirle and L Svensson. 2009. Holarctic List v2.0 at http://www.pheromone.ekol.lu.se/hollisteng.html (Swedish Ornithological Committee). Accessed Nov09.

Mike, it must be a very subtle hint. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but I can't find any mention of stejnegeri.

[MJB]

Originally Posted by Richard Klim

Mike, it must be a very subtle hint. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but I can't find any mention of stejnegeri.

Richard,
Maybe something's changed since, or I misplaced my references! Will need to check out my PC when i get back to UK.
MJB