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Old Saturday 19th March 2005, 05:58   #1
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Looking for "Butcher bird"

Sorry for the "candid" question

A local friend watching at one of my photos on the screen has said to me:
—"This is a nice butcher bird"!
Before to post my photo on these forums "to be credible", I look everywhere to give the right info for the "butcher bird", but I have seen so different birds of mine that I am confused as shape, body and colours.

Could someone show or post what look or what make a bird a "butcher bird"?
I have a few photo, I will post later if they match "yours"

Thank you for your help!
Please disgard my post if no interest for the communauty

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Old Saturday 19th March 2005, 06:12   #2
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Hi Lebororo,

'Butcher Bird' is a common name given it seems fairly widely to members of the Shrike family (butcher bird reflects its habit of impaling its prey—small birds, mammals and large insects—on a thorn, twig or barbed wire before tearing it apart ). That would probably explain the variety of hits that you get on a google etc search. As far as I know however shrikes are not found in Australia or S America.

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edit: apologies - it appears butcher bird is also used to descriibe some birds of the family Artamidae in Australia. I better let an Aussie or someone who knows there birds better talk you through the various species.

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Old Saturday 19th March 2005, 06:22   #3
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Hi Lebororo,
'Butcher Bird' is a common name given it seems fairly widely to members of the Shrike family
As far as I know however shrikes are not found in Australia or S America.
Luke
Thanks Luke for your quick reply
If you are right, I am in a deep dilemma!
Where I could post "my bird" for its ID?

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Old Saturday 19th March 2005, 06:28   #4
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Thanks Luke for your quick reply
If you are right, I am in a deep dilemma!
Where I could post "my bird" for its ID?

lebororo
No problem - if you read my edit to your question you'll understand the confusion.

Post your picture in the identification Q and A forum.

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Old Saturday 19th March 2005, 06:34   #5
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Old Sunday 20th March 2005, 22:03   #6
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Butcherbirds are members of the family Artamidae - including Woodswallows, Australian Magpie and Currawongs. One of the distinguishing features of this family (with the exception of the Currawongs) is they have a silver-grey bill with a black tip.

Butcherbirds' bills look like a cross between a magpie and a kingfisher bill. They're about 25-30 cm in body length and have a fluting melodious call.

There are several different species, but the two most likely if you live on the East coast of Australia are Grey Butcherbird, or Pied Butcherbird.
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Old Monday 21st March 2005, 14:12   #7
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I have a at least one photo of a Butcher Bird in my gallery posted about 10 months ago. I will try and post it here for you.

I can't find a way of posting the shot for you. Sorry

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Thanks to Mike and Julien and sorry for the delay
Got problem with "statics" thunder and lightning last night
will come back later

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Heres 3 from my website.....

Isabelline http://www.pbase.com/clive_temple/image/28212419
Southern Great Grey http://www.pbase.com/clive_temple/image/33989910
Woodchat http://www.pbase.com/clive_temple/image/27792865
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Old Tuesday 22nd March 2005, 12:42   #10
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There are various photos of different species of butcherbird in the gallery, for instance:

Pied Butcherbird : http://www.birdforum.net/pp_gallery/...cat/all/page/2
Grey Butcherbird : http://www.birdforum.net/pp_gallery/...cat/all/page/2
Hooded Butcherbird : http://www.birdforum.net/pp_gallery/...cat/all/page/2

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Old Tuesday 22nd March 2005, 13:51   #11
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Gud day! everybody

Lost my message grrrrr!

Thanks Gasshead and Stuart for you input
I thinkt that my 'birds' could fit in this category, I am absolutely "zero" in bird knowledge" and I have not enough time to share with everyboby passion thru these forums...

I don't want to post in the gallery as I don't know the type of birds on my photo..

http://www.pbase.com/lebororo/image/38901838 " a close-up "
http://www.pbase.com/lebororo/image/37550807 " a juvenile "
http://www.pbase.com/lebororo/image/24784683 " one other juvenile"

and may be, it is not a magpie http://www.pbase.com/lebororo/image/37076653 a juvenile but ???

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"a close up" is an Australian Magpie (as far as I can tell)
the other three are all Grey Butcherbird
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