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Black-eared Kite (1 Viewer)
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Richard Klim
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Milvus lineatus Black-eared Kite is recognised by BirdLife International, Monroe & Sibley 1993, Dutch Birding, China Ornithological Society, and Brazil 2009 (Birds of East Asia);
but not by IOC, Cornell/Clements, Dickinson 2003 (H&M 3), HBW, OBC, AERC, BWP, or BBRC.
Richard
but not by IOC, Cornell/Clements, Dickinson 2003 (H&M 3), HBW, OBC, AERC, BWP, or BBRC.
Richard
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Daniel Philippe
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You may want to read this article:
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/272/1570/1365.full.pdf
Farnboro John
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l_raty
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If you accept these data, lineatus is very, very close to M. m. govinda, which is usually kept in M. migrans.
(It's not completely clear from the paper itself, but the bird labelled "BK (India)" in Fig.2, that clusters with the "BK (Japan)" -- this one can only be a lineatus based on range -- corresponds to a sequence identified as govinda in GenBank; the second Indian bird is ID'd as a lineatus in GenBank; the Pakistan bird is said there to be a govinda -- thus the two taxa would not even appear to have reciprocally monophyletic mtDNA... That said, I'd prefer to see more govinda data before to regard this as proven. Here they had only two specimens, both collected in winter, at localities where lineatus is also possible at this time of the year. They don't really make it clear why these could not have been lineatus as well.)
The lineatus/govinda group is then closer to Australian M. m. affinis than the latter is to M. m. migrans -- thus if you want to make a split, either affinis should be a distinct species as well, or it should be included in M. lineatus.
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Farnboro John
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So it might be a yes then, but don't hold your breath.....
John
John
Richard Klim
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Richard Klim
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Identification of Black-eared & Pariah Kites
DeCandido, Subedi, Siponen, Sutasha, Pierce, Nualsri & Round 2013. Flight identification of Milvus migrans lineatus 'Black-eared' Kite and Milvus migrans govinda 'Pariah' Kite in Nepal and Thailand. BirdingASIA 20: 32–36. [pdf]
[Incidentally, OSME lists both lineatus and govinda as possible species.]
DeCandido, Subedi, Siponen, Sutasha, Pierce, Nualsri & Round 2013. Flight identification of Milvus migrans lineatus 'Black-eared' Kite and Milvus migrans govinda 'Pariah' Kite in Nepal and Thailand. BirdingASIA 20: 32–36. [pdf]
[Incidentally, OSME lists both lineatus and govinda as possible species.]
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Farnboro John
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Richard Klim
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Richard Klim
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Forsman 2016
Forsman 2016. Flight Identification of Raptors of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. Bloomsbury.
Forsman 2016. Flight Identification of Raptors of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. Bloomsbury.
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