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Old Friday 19th May 2017, 21:04   #1
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Arrow Bird Id Please, Norfolk!!!

A Norfolk birder just highlighted this on Twitter. A lady called Sue on NORFOLK COUNTRYSIDE PHOTOS on Facebook has this bird in her garden. Anyone know what is is please? She describes it as far bigger than a magpie! Obviously from an aviary or if not, she has a first for Britain!!! People keep mentioning Rose-coloured Starling, but tail far too long and bird too big for that.

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Old Friday 19th May 2017, 21:08   #2
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Looks like a Magpie, not our Magpie of course but another species, Yellow-billed Blue Magpie maybe unless that's food in it's beak??



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Old Friday 19th May 2017, 21:16   #3
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Unless it's made of wood or polyethylene...
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I saw this on FB on my phone earlier and my initial thought on the thumbnail was rosy starling when you open the image the tail is too long and it looks to big a bird. Looking at it now on a computer I'm wondering if it is just a dodgy looking magpie with a lot of feather loss?
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Old Friday 19th May 2017, 21:33   #5
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I saw this on FB on my phone earlier and my initial thought on the thumbnail was rosy starling when you open the image the tail is too long and it looks to big a bird. Looking at it now on a computer I'm wondering if it is just a dodgy looking magpie with a lot of feather loss?
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I just asked Sue what colour the beak was.... she said 'white'!
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Magpie with 'issues'!
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Closest I've found so far is a pirolle or Taiwan blue magpie...

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Thanks for everyone's help so far. Other thoughts via email to me are Rufous Treepie, but nothing seems to fit exactly yet.
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It took me a while to find a photo of a magpie with heavy feather loss but I think this is a good fit for the Norfolk bird - http://www.growsonyou.com/question/show/28853
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It took me a while to find a photo of a magpie with heavy feather loss but I think this is a good fit for the Norfolk bird - http://www.growsonyou.com/question/show/28853
Interesting.... but beak is white, so the lady said.

Another email I have just received suggests an 'aberrant Blue Magpie of some sort.'
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My guess would be Red-billed Blue Magpie, they are kept in captivity.
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Difficult to tell from the photo but could the apparently white bill be a food item or some residue?

The picture in the link of the magpie with feather loss seems to fit well. It's certainly an interesting looking bird. Any chance of the lady who reported it getting a better picture?

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The picture in the link of the magpie with feather loss seems to fit well.
Can't disagree with that.
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If it was actually "much bigger than a magpie", escaped Urocissa sp seems like the only option. However, people often think unusual or unexpected birds/animals are bigger than they actually are. Is the size of the birdtable known? That should be enough to tell whether this can be a magpie with feather loss/staining or has to be something else.
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The original photo has been uploaded onto facebook. It looks like a magpie that has lost a lot of body feathers. The bill appears darker (but with light reflecting off it) on the better pic.

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Here is the new photo
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That's a (Eurasian) magpie with feather loss then, like the one linked to above. Interesting that they seem to lose the white but not the black feathers - to do with black pigment's strengthening effect?
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